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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1636
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:07:00 -
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The tank is so baddd when it comes to fitting. Holy crap I cannot fit anything on the Federation Madrugar. It's like i'm forced to put a Complex CPU extender on the tank. If I fit an ION Cannon, you might as well throw your fit out the window. Not to mention that you have to replace those small blasters for small Railguns after you fit the Complex CPU because now you have PG problem.
Somebody buff it's CPU by like 130 and buff it's PG by like 125.
The only fit that I find is working one complex heavy 120m plates, one complex heavy repair. The third low slot is lost to a CPU extender. Enhanced Nitro and ION cannon, and 2 20j small rails.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
15384
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:29:00 -
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Why are you using the Federation Madrugar?
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1639
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Why are you using the Federation Madrugar?
BECAUSE IT'S CAMOUFLAGED!! AND GALLANTE LP IS AFKable!!
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
2822
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:33:00 -
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All LP is 'AFKable'.
Please do tell me how bad they are next time my Maddy comes over to say hi. (Well, not my Maddy. My alt's Maddy.))
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3070
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:34:00 -
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It's currently suicide to run small turrets on maddies, which sucks, but the extra fitting will eat you alive.
Maddies while grossly UP compared to Gunnies are still deadly though, my favorite fit is simply a proto rail, Adv Nitro, a pair of Adv plates and a basic repper, rarely lose it even when tackling gunnies.
You really need to max or at least get to level four the optimization skill of whatever large turret you're using, as well as max the large turret skill, in order to make any maddy fit not garbage for CPU restrictions.
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SeargentSAVAGE
0verstoned Inc.
17
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:37:00 -
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Honestly that's just a bad fit lol, I'm not trying to talk **** but just think about it. You got all that armor and such little reps when basically everything in the game made to blow up vehicles are completely armor based besides the plasma cannon. I've been seeing many people resorting to dual reps and a hardener. Honestly from what I've seen lately maddys are more effective with rails at the moment. And gunlogis have seemed to have better accuracy with the blaster then the maddy does now. But almost all vehicles are crap at the moment due to the increase amount of av lately. I don't wanna say a complete rebalancing is necessary but little tweaks are definitely needed. And I don't mean go in change some random stuff without testing it and wait to here the communities feedback. I mean fix the problems like fix the survivability of the maddy, fix the no looking down for the gunlogi, and fix the nerfed fire rate for the python, and they need to stop going by statistics and whats on paper when nerfing/buffing things. That should be done by consulting with the competitive vehicle specialists not butthurt AV user that try to solo tanks but epicly gets popped by my particle cannon everytime :D |
Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1641
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:52:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:All LP is 'AFKable'.
Please do tell me how bad they are next time my Maddy comes over to say hi. (Well, not my Maddy. My alt's Maddy.))
Please don't complain when I one clip you with my Missile tank.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1641
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:53:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Honestly that's just a bad fit lol, I'm not trying to talk **** but just think about it. You got all that armor and such little reps when basically everything in the game made to blow up vehicles are completely armor based besides the plasma cannon. I've been seeing many people resorting to dual reps and a hardener. Honestly from what I've seen lately maddys are more effective with rails at the moment. And gunlogis have seemed to have better accuracy with the blaster then the maddy does now. But almost all vehicles are crap at the moment due to the increase amount of av lately. I don't wanna say a complete rebalancing is necessary but little tweaks are definitely needed. And I don't mean go in change some random stuff without testing it and wait to here the communities feedback. I mean fix the problems like fix the survivability of the maddy, fix the no looking down for the gunlogi, and fix the nerfed fire rate for the python, and they need to stop going by statistics and whats on paper when nerfing/buffing things. That should be done by consulting with the competitive vehicle specialists not butthurt AV user that try to solo tanks but epicly gets popped by my particle cannon everytime :D
What, you run two repairs with empty high slots?
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
9401
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Posted - 2015.02.02 04:58:00 -
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There's already a rebalance happening and Rattati has played with the Madrugar before so I imagine that he knows it's in a **** spot when compared to the Gunlogi missile and Rail fits.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
4696
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:11:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2919
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:17:00 -
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Madrugar is good, almost better than a Gunnlogi if you ask me, and a lot better than 99% of the forum posters make it out to be. The only real advantages the Gunnlogi has is turn speed, missiles, and customizability. But yeah, you can't really run turrets on it, so get a real one.
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Godin Thekiller
The Corporate Raiders
2763
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:22:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Madrugar is good, almost better than a Gunnlogi if you ask me, and a lot better than 99% of the forum posters make it out to be. The only real advantages the Gunnlogi has is turn speed, missiles, and customizability. But yeah, you can't really run turrets on it, so get a real one.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2858
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:31:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:The tank is so baddd when it comes to fitting. Holy crap I cannot fit anything on the Federation Madrugar. It's like i'm forced to put a Complex CPU extender on the tank. If I fit an ION Cannon, you might as well throw your fit out the window. Not to mention that you have to replace those small blasters for small Railguns after you fit the Complex CPU because now you have PG problem.
Somebody buff it's CPU by like 130 and buff it's PG by like 125.
The only fit that I find is working one complex heavy 120m plates, one complex heavy repair. The third low slot is lost to a CPU extender. Enhanced Nitro and ION cannon, and 2 20j small rails.
It's been terrible since 1.7, so that's over a year now.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1642
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:35:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Madrugar is good, almost better than a Gunnlogi if you ask me, and a lot better than 99% of the forum posters make it out to be. The only real advantages the Gunnlogi has is turn speed, missiles, and customizability. But yeah, you can't really run turrets on it, so get a real one.
I would never have a Madrugar over a gunnlogi in any situation in the history of this game.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2858
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Posted - 2015.02.02 05:57:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Madrugar is good, almost better than a Gunnlogi if you ask me, and a lot better than 99% of the forum posters make it out to be. The only real advantages the Gunnlogi has is turn speed, missiles, and customizability. But yeah, you can't really run turrets on it, so get a real one.
Do you even tank?
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2919
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Madrugar is good, almost better than a Gunnlogi if you ask me, and a lot better than 99% of the forum posters make it out to be. The only real advantages the Gunnlogi has is turn speed, missiles, and customizability. But yeah, you can't really run turrets on it, so get a real one. Do you even tank?
Perhaps I'm so bad at tanking I sometimes forget that it's bad and do well with it.
It's not my primary skill set but I do dabble. Personally I just like the handling of the Gunnlogi better but as far as defenses go, armor is much better under fire. In a Gunnlogi you have to slink around and hide all the time, a Madrugar can actually get in people's faces and do damage.
Look, we all know the Gunnlogi better for quite a few reasons, but you're all making the Madrugar out to be crap when it clearly isn't.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2919
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:14:00 -
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Gunnlogies are only good with Missiles and rails because they can take out their targets fast and/or at a distance. Blaster Gunnlogis are crap compared Madrugars because they're more suited for burst tanking whereas blasters need staying power, i.e. armor tanking.
They're not bad, they're just different, though currently they are under preforming.
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Fel Indeed
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:23:00 -
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Real men use a soma. Try 2 rails for small guns. Feul injector and cru. Double up on the heavy rep. Go have fun. It's super cheap and you get tons of wp. +50 every time someone spawns.
Save your nitro for fighting rails, missiles or tough AV. Make a note where the infantry hits from. Speed across the map and cause chaos. The real trick is getting lots of people to pull av. The rails are killers.
Your job is distraction and insertion. You'll be surprised how many people spawn in when you haunt objectives. Throw some links if you logi. When you exit it cuts out the cru.
You might explode right away. Never stop moving. You'll get the hang of it after a few matches. If not it's only like 80k to check it out. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
4546
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:24:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Gunnlogies are only good with Missiles and rails because they can take out their targets fast and/or at a distance. Blaster Gunnlogis are crap compared Madrugars because they're more suited for burst tanking whereas blasters need staying power, i.e. armor tanking.
They're not bad, they're just different, though currently they are under preforming.
Not true, gunny is still better with a blaster. I love taking my sica 100% mlt fit against maddy's cuz their so easy to kill. Damn gunnys and their hardners =ƒÿÆ
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
2858
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:27:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:
but as far as defenses go, armor is much better under fire. , a Madrugar can actually get in people's faces and do damage.
Packed Lai Dai say no. I have them. They're stupidly easy to use. I lose IQ every time I use them.
but you're all making the Madrugar out to be crap when it clearly isn't.[/i]
It is. A rail installation can damn near destroy one in 3 shots. If we''re not getting the vehicle changes too soon, and I'm able to record video - if I happen to do a FW with people I know on the other side, I'll ask them to get in one real quick and fire just 3 shots.
Armor is so weak, it's near completely useless.
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
657
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Posted - 2015.02.02 06:57:00 -
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Gunnlogi has trouble aiming down, while the Madrugar can aim through it's hull. (OP?  )
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1998
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Posted - 2015.02.02 09:03:00 -
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Firstly unless your running with gunners forget the fed maddy as you can't remove the small turrets .
Try this build on a vanilla maddy
80gj ion cannon
enhanced 120 plate
enhanced armour repair
enhanced armour hardner
and in the highs
1 mCRU
1 basic nitro.
Give it a go it's not a bad solo tank and you'll get a few points from team spawns .
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xavier zor
Rogue Instincts
470
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Posted - 2015.02.02 09:15:00 -
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I respeccced out of vehicles since AV is overpowered
As far as the madrugar goes, i had used the triple-repped madrugar and a tanked madrugar with a hardener and a rep. I can say that the thing the madrugar lacks is nothing bar turning speed. The triple-repped madrugar honestly is my infantry-farming fit. Doesn't do good toe to toe with an AV tank but it can sure take a beating. It is my go-to infantry farming tank on open maps.
The gunnlogi on the other hand is better and worse than the madrugar. It can take alot more than the madrugar with 4600+ shields and a hardener but as soon as the hardener runs out you won't be staying in one spot to often. It is my goto infantry fit when i am playing a domination (drive into swarm hoard, activate hardener, farm infantry for 30 seconds, hide in redline for 40. rinse and repeat)
+1 the madrugar tank is under-performing
SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Honestly that's just a bad fit lol, I'm not trying to talk **** but just think about it. You got all that armor and such little reps when basically everything in the game made to blow up vehicles are completely armor based besides the plasma cannon. I've been seeing many people resorting to dual reps and a hardener. Honestly from what I've seen lately maddys are more effective with rails at the moment. And gunlogis have seemed to have better accuracy with the blaster then the maddy does now. But almost all vehicles are crap at the moment due to the increase amount of av lately. I don't wanna say a complete rebalancing is necessary but little tweaks are definitely needed. And I don't mean go in change some random stuff without testing it and wait to here the communities feedback. I mean fix the problems like fix the survivability of the maddy, fix the no looking down for the gunlogi, and fix the nerfed fire rate for the python, and they need to stop going by statistics and whats on paper when nerfing/buffing things. That should be done by consulting with the competitive vehicle specialists not butthurt AV user that try to solo tanks but epicly gets popped by my particle cannon everytime :D
Hey there!
I played against you yesterday you killed me in my protosuit, so i made my whole squad go AV :P. I forgot to send you commendation mail for pulling out a python considering who underpowered they are.
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Yokal Bob
State of Purgatory
767
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Posted - 2015.02.02 09:29:00 -
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SeargentSAVAGE wrote:Honestly that's just a bad fit lol, I'm not trying to talk **** but just think about it. You got all that armor and such little reps when basically everything in the game made to blow up vehicles are completely armor based besides the plasma cannon. I've been seeing many people resorting to dual reps and a hardener. Honestly from what I've seen lately maddys are more effective with rails at the moment. And gunlogis have seemed to have better accuracy with the blaster then the maddy does now. But almost all vehicles are crap at the moment due to the increase amount of av lately. I don't wanna say a complete rebalancing is necessary but little tweaks are definitely needed. And I don't mean go in change some random stuff without testing it and wait to here the communities feedback. I mean fix the problems like fix the survivability of the maddy, fix the no looking down for the gunlogi, and fix the nerfed fire rate for the python, and they need to stop going by statistics and whats on paper when nerfing/buffing things. That should be done by consulting with the competitive vehicle specialists not butthurt AV user that try to solo tanks but epicly gets popped by my particle cannon everytime :D
Can you imagine the damage with the warbarge damage boost! scary *.*
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Yeeeuuuupppp
Random Gunz
822
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Posted - 2015.02.02 11:46:00 -
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Gunlogi Ftw
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