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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.29 14:35:00 -
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The new warbarge 'Augmented Ammunition Facility' subsystem is described as...
"Constantly crunching your combat numbers, this subsystem increases the relative power of your primary weapons through methodical preventive maintenance, rigorous calibration, tuning, and trials. Simply put, each additional level will give 1% more damage with your primary weapon."
This is a flat damage bonus that concerns many players, including myself. I am concerned with the reduction in TTK this subsystem will cause.
Allow the subsystem to instead be a player-chosen bonus to a single aspect of tank vs. gank. Allow only one bonus to be active at a time, and then require a 24 hour cooldown between adjustments. Numbers for each bonus are up for discussion. Like the damage increase, these bonuses would all be small; 1% more armor HP, 0.5% sprint speed, 2% armor repair amount per level.
- Damage
- Armor repair amount
- Shield recharge
- Armor HP
- Shield HP
- Sprint speed
This would allow players who feel their TTK is too low to activate the shield or armor HP.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.01.29 14:56:00 -
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A 0.5% bonus to sprint speed would be too small to the point of not making it worth it for me as a Minscout.
Fastest suit in the game (Minscout) is clocked at 11.11m/s. With a bonus that small the sprint speed would be like this and this is assuming you already filled up all the low slots with complex kinetic catalyzers on the proto level suit.
11.11*1.005=11.16m/s
Not worth it at all. I might as well focus on the damage for the Ishukone Nova Knives. And if a Minscout user doesn't feel like it's worth it then none of the other classes will.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.29 15:01:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Not worth it at all. I might as well focus on the damage for the Ishukone Nova Knives. And if a Minscout user doesn't feel like it's worth it then none of the other classes will. Noted. The exact numbers aren't fixed in my proposal. Make the sprint speed roughly equal to that of a standard kincat. Whatever.
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Terry Webber
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.29 19:08:00 -
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I am also worried about the facility. Your proposal sounds like a good alternative. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.01.29 19:52:00 -
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Too late for a fix now. We'll be getting the lab thingy and hopefully a patch will add what you're listing. I would happily go for more sprint speed, as long as it's actually worth using instead of having a .5% bonus. |
Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.01.29 20:07:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I would happily go for more sprint speed, as long as it's actually worth using instead of having a .5% bonus. The 0.5% was meant to be per level of the subsystem. So, once maxed, it would be a 2.5% sprint speed boost.
I see now that the standard kincat gives a 5% increase in sprint speed. Maybe 0.75% per level then? 3.75% total.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.01.29 20:34:00 -
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I'm not immensely concerned, personally. 5% damage won't make that much difference to TTK.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.01.29 20:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm not immensely concerned, personally. 5% damage won't make that much difference to TTK. You aren't just the tiniest bit worried about HMG, CR, and RR's? They can turn a durable non-sentinel dropsuit into a puddle inside of a second, as is.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.01.29 20:37:00 -
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I don't care about Damage but I like the idea of having more hp/s with armor reps.
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Atiim
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.01.30 02:02:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm not immensely concerned, personally. 5% damage won't make that much difference to TTK. You aren't just the tiniest bit worried about HMG, CR, and RR's? They can turn a durable non-sentinel dropsuit into a puddle inside of a second, as is.
If you're dying to CRs and RRs in less than a second, you're not using a "durable non-sentinel dropsuit".
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.01.30 02:09:00 -
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5% damage to and from tanks?
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.30 02:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:If you're dying to CRs and RRs in less than a second, you're not using a "durable non-sentinel dropsuit". Just played a pair of matches with a gk.0; 3x ferro, 2x repairers. Standard ACRs vaporize me. RR's less so, but still very quickly.
Which is intended. They both have anti-armor damage profiles.
My concern is adding another 5% damage bonus on top of those profiles.
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137H4RGIC
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.30 04:10:00 -
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5% bonus to any hp value versus a 5% damage boost is insignificant. I'd pick the damage boost every time. I really like the subsystem idea ccp thought up, but I agree that it will screw up ttk more than it already is.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2015.01.30 11:39:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:5% bonus to any hp value versus a 5% damage boost is insignificant. I'd pick the damage boost every time. I really like the subsystem idea ccp thought up, but I agree that it will screw up ttk more than it already is. I removed the exact numbers from my OP because it seems all they were doing it causing confusion  The exact numerical bonuses are up for discussion.
My proposal is that this 'augmented ammo facility' subsystem should provide a variety of bonuses and players must select one at a time.
Or we could have a new subsystem that provides the bonuses I mentioned, minus the damage bonus.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.01.30 17:30:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm not immensely concerned, personally. 5% damage won't make that much difference to TTK. You aren't just the tiniest bit worried about HMG, CR, and RR's? They can turn a durable non-sentinel dropsuit into a puddle inside of a second, as is.
Nope.
How many situations are you likely to live because of 5% damage? Very few, honestly. You'll have a confirmation bias with all those times you've escaped at a tiny fraction of course, but frankly if a HMG looks at you, you're going to die anyway, 5% damage bonus or not.
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.01.30 18:03:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I'm not immensely concerned, personally. 5% damage won't make that much difference to TTK. You aren't just the tiniest bit worried about HMG, CR, and RR's? They can turn a durable non-sentinel dropsuit into a puddle inside of a second, as is.
Hmg already insta kills, rr, CBR could use some love compared to it.
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