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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10869
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:16:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:All my officer weapons will be for sale. 2 million per Exceptions Viktor's Lazer 5 million per Darth's Scrambler 5 million per Luis' Combat Rifle make an offer
Suits aren't priced for sale yet. this thread is for what you deem there actual worth, not the amount your selling for.............
You said based on availability. How would you know what their actual worth would be if you and I don't know how often people get this as their salvage? Only CCP has the data for this.
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
616
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:16:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:I would've been interested in Thale's before the range nerf. Now, I just rather use PRO stuff if I'm going all out.
I usually use STD stuff anyways. you can still get plenty of kills, but you can no longer track your target more so, you have to time your shots and that window of hit/miss is much smaller without the zoom, but its damage is the best of all the sr,s
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
616
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:18:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:All my officer weapons will be for sale. 2 million per Exceptions Viktor's Lazer 5 million per Darth's Scrambler 5 million per Luis' Combat Rifle make an offer
Suits aren't priced for sale yet. this thread is for what you deem there actual worth, not the amount your selling for............. You said based on availability. How would you know what their actual worth would be if you and I don't know how often people get this as their salvage? Only CCP has the data for this. how many is available for trade/sell -_- for gods sake man use thy common sense.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10869
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:28:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:All my officer weapons will be for sale. 2 million per Exceptions Viktor's Lazer 5 million per Darth's Scrambler 5 million per Luis' Combat Rifle make an offer
Suits aren't priced for sale yet. this thread is for what you deem there actual worth, not the amount your selling for............. You said based on availability. How would you know what their actual worth would be if you and I don't know how often people get this as their salvage? Only CCP has the data for this. how many is available for trade/sell -_- for gods sake man use thy common sense.
I'm a marketeer in Eve as well so I know what I'm talking about. Relying on how many is posted for buying/selling is not a 100% accurate assessment of how much of a single item actually exists in circulation. People do hide their stockpile for a rainy day. If you hold back enough of an item from the market or pump it into the market enough, you can artificially raise or drop the prices if you do it and time it right and have enough people do it with you. It's a risky move given the competition that exists. Remember that you're not the only one selling here. Someone like me will try to take your clients from you by undercutting you.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10869
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:32:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:All my officer weapons will be for sale. 2 million per Exceptions Viktor's Lazer 5 million per Darth's Scrambler 5 million per Luis' Combat Rifle make an offer
Suits aren't priced for sale yet. this thread is for what you deem there actual worth, not the amount your selling for............. You said based on availability. How would you know what their actual worth would be if you and I don't know how often people get this as their salvage? Only CCP has the data for this. how many is available for trade/sell -_- for gods sake man use thy common sense. and what i've already said survivability and on your other post have some players will value/charge more than others this thread is to establish a median.
I see. But that median will only stay consistent for so long. It will change over time.
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
616
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:34:00 -
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well aware maken tosch why do you think i'm establishing myself as a fair businessman ;)
edited op btw,i can see how my intent wasn't clearly outlined
i will also be dealing proto/ experimental but that is for another thread :)
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
616
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:35:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:Ahkhomi Cypher wrote:All my officer weapons will be for sale. 2 million per Exceptions Viktor's Lazer 5 million per Darth's Scrambler 5 million per Luis' Combat Rifle make an offer
Suits aren't priced for sale yet. this thread is for what you deem there actual worth, not the amount your selling for............. You said based on availability. How would you know what their actual worth would be if you and I don't know how often people get this as their salvage? Only CCP has the data for this. how many is available for trade/sell -_- for gods sake man use thy common sense. and what i've already said survivability and on your other post have some players will value/charge more than others this thread is to establish a median. I see. But that median will only stay consistent for so long. It will change over time. this is to establish a starting point
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10869
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:47:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote: this is to establish a starting point
Point taken... pun intended.
Don't forget to check back on this thread a year from now to see how much the trend has shifted since then.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
704
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:58:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:So what do you think the five balacs modified ck.o assaults I've salvaged so far will be worth? if your telling the truth and based on rarity alone (considering i've never used one and thus cannot base it on survivability) 4m' ish apeice considering thats equilavelent to about 15-20 proto suits(fitted) I am definitely telling the truth. Got them all from strongboxs. I'm thinking they would be worth a lot more than 4 mil. You already got a guy in here offering up ten million for an officer logi suit.
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robin williams' ghost
whisky tango foxtrot sir
704
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Posted - 2015.01.24 05:59:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I will pay 10 million ISK for every LogiBro Dropsuit you have.
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
189
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:39:00 -
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Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :)
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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demonkiller 12
Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance
522
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:47:00 -
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thehellisgoingon wrote:600k each. No one officer weapon is better then another. They are all rare drops. What is a plc worth to me. Nada. Kubo might give his left nut though. All I know is if it has your name on it it cost 4x fair market value. Thales cost more.
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demonkiller 12
Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance
522
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:48:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :) there are quite a lot of us |
Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
190
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:50:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :) there are quite a lot of us
Shh the idea is that no one knows about it... Lol
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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demonkiller 12
Titans of Phoenix VP Gaming Alliance
523
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:51:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I'm not gonna judge the pricing, but I have to warn you that once Simple Trading is implemented, the prices being discussed here will just be theoretical at best. The actual prices will vary wildly depending on the laws of Supply & Demand and how the game is balanced over time.
One might assume that the actual worth of Gastun HMG could be something like 600,000 ISK just because of their rarity as a salvage-only item, but the actual value would change over time due to what I said already. The Gastun HMG might sell for more due to demand or it might sell for less due to lack of demand.
So don't be surprised if you see someone on the field running around with an officer fit costing as much as 1 million ISK total one day and then it's cost drops to 500k the next day as players adjust their own prices for these rare items.
Again, the prices you discuss here will only be theoretical and no one here is obligated to adhere to the suggested prices posted on this thread. this is true, i already have a few hundred of each of the older officer weapons and some 50ish of the new ones, ill just buy low and sell them really expensive in low quantities at a time Da Beers company all over again |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
3201
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Posted - 2015.01.24 06:55:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :)
And wish to get richer because it's something to do.
With a few billion in the wallet... You can do EVE market PVP in DUST....
Completely buy out one item and control it's price... You need to spend a few bil... In Eve's case it took a few trillion but it takes money to make money |
Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
190
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Posted - 2015.01.24 14:16:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :) And wish to get richer because it's something to do. With a few billion in the wallet... You can do EVE market PVP in DUST.... Completely buy out one item and control it's price... You need to spend a few bil... In Eve's case it took a few trillion but it takes money to make money
This isn't necessarily true... All the time I played EVE I was the master of the marketplace, and i never needed about billions, of course I have them in Eve since it is super easy to make money, I in that same way I controlled the marketplace of my region as I wanted, it isn't hard in Eve, and most important, u don't need billions. :)
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10876
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Posted - 2015.01.24 16:09:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Bethhy wrote:Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :) And wish to get richer because it's something to do. With a few billion in the wallet... You can do EVE market PVP in DUST.... Completely buy out one item and control it's price... You need to spend a few bil... In Eve's case it took a few trillion but it takes money to make money This isn't necessarily true... All the time I played EVE I was the master of the marketplace, and i never needed about billions, of course I have them in Eve since it is super easy to make money, I in that same way I controlled the marketplace of my region as I wanted, it isn't hard in Eve, and most important, u don't need billions. :) I controlled my marketplace over 6 months, it wasn't hard, u just have to be smart. And isk in Eve is easy. I bought plexes really easy, and still having in the redeem system :)
If you have 500 million ISK in the wallet and have the following skills trained to the max, you're good to go with market pvp.
Accounting Broker Relations Daytrading Margin Trading Marketing Procurement Retail Trade Tycoon Wholesale
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Alex-ZX
Valor Coalition Red Whines.
192
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:16:00 -
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Yeah, but once again in my opinion, marketplace PvP sux, I was in Eve to play pve and real PvP
Marketing PvP just works in real life :)
*Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG
Luis' modified VC-107 CR
Alex's modified VC-107 SMG* Owner of this beasts
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wiseguy12
Sector Combat Solutions and Logistics
99
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Posted - 2015.01.24 17:46:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:In the coming reiteration of dust, player trading is gonna be one of the key features being added and to have a central point of what to pay or sell officer for i'm putting up a community poll of the following weapons **actual** worth (average/mediam is beterr choice of words) ,not what your willing to sell or buy for but the actual worth based on functionality and survivability (and later availability).
1.)alldin's forge 2.)gastun forge 3.)alex's hmg 4.)gastun hmg
5.)Kalante's ar 6.)balac's ar 7.)krin's ar 8.)symb's sr 9.)thales sr 10.)beacon's sl 11.)agimus md 12.)viktors lr 13.)bon's sg (when it is fixed) 14.)darth's scr 15.)kubo's pc 16.)luis cr 17.)ghalog rr
18.)cala's smg 19.)wolfman scp (remaining sidearms will be in another poll)
please keep your opinions of another's prices to yourself. 1) 250k 2)250K 3)max 2.5 mil min. 900K 4)Max 5 mil min. 1Mil 5)max 900k min. 500K 6)Same as 5 7)Max. 600K min 250k 8)Max 10mil min. 7.5Mil 9) same as 10 11) Max 8mil min 1Mil 12) max 2 mil min 500k sorry no likes lasers 13) Max 6mil min 3Mil before fix Max 100k min 1 14) 7mil 15)Nothing because it's named after Kubo JK 1mil 16)3mil there will be a lot of them being sold lowers value 17)Just give them to me I'll pay 700k each 18)Min 300k Max 800k 19) 200k- 500k
Pro Caldari assault and sentinel.
Proto magsec, Forgegun, sniper, HMG, and Rail Rifle
Onuoto Uakan
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
1867
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:10:00 -
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You realize player trading has been pushed back to Q2 right?
April - May is a long ways off. |
wiseguy12
Sector Combat Solutions and Logistics
99
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Posted - 2015.01.24 18:19:00 -
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Osbourne I could use an invite to Z I accidentally left a while back so if you are still in that chat invite me.
Pro Caldari assault and sentinel.
Proto magsec, Forgegun, sniper, HMG, and Rail Rifle
Onuoto Uakan
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
622
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Posted - 2015.01.25 06:43:00 -
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robin williams' ghost wrote:iKILLu osborne wrote:robin williams' ghost wrote:So what do you think the five balacs modified ck.o assaults I've salvaged so far will be worth? if your telling the truth and based on rarity alone (considering i've never used one and thus cannot base it on survivability) 4m' ish apeice considering thats equilavelent to about 15-20 proto suits(fitted) I am definitely telling the truth. Got them all from strongboxs. I'm thinking they would be worth a lot more than 4 mil. You already got a guy in here offering up ten million for an officer logi suit. what something is worth is totally different to as what someone would pay.........
also if i knew how better the suit was from its proto variant i could give a higher estimate ;)
though i have heard people make even more outlandish offers so 4m may be me low ball'ing it
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
622
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Posted - 2015.01.25 06:48:00 -
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Alex-ZX wrote:Not sure ppl will buy them, maybe those grossly rich, :) you got to think with the changes coming to pc many corps will buy it up to help hold their land considering ccp rattati is trying his best to elimate district locking and the manipulation of timers ;)
thats assuming he makes holding a district well worth a corporation's time
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
622
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Posted - 2015.01.25 06:51:00 -
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wiseguy12 wrote:Osbourne I could use an invite to Z I accidentally left a while back so if you are still in that chat invite me. its z's channel, he is usually on about this time. (look at eve time stamp of this post)
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
622
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Posted - 2015.01.25 06:54:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:You realize player trading has been pushed back to Q2 right?
April - May is a long ways off. i haven't had a chance to look at the roadmap thingy but considering we have been waiting so long you would think they would be rushing it out the door, but hey it's ccp...............
thanks for informing me...........,and killing this thread.
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
579
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Posted - 2015.01.25 07:04:00 -
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Kirin's ar is weak sauce.60-70k |
iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
623
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Posted - 2015.01.25 07:38:00 -
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hold that wrote:Kirin's ar is weak sauce.60-70k well they are better than the proto variant...................
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Sequal's Back
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
195
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Posted - 2015.01.25 11:07:00 -
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I don't think any of them are worth more than 300-400k. They are rare, ok. But not efficient enough to be worth more than that (still 10x the price of a proto weapon). You can lose them just as fast as protos!
Rise? That's what they used to call me. Sequal Rise. That was my name.
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game RUST415
623
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Posted - 2015.01.27 07:17:00 -
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welp the poll is closed, i have my prices both from this thread and people i spoke with in game, 1 week before player trading i will post my prices.
experimental weapons prices will be x2 the cost of proto variants.
proto weapons will be -20% than market value
boosters(if they can be sold) will be 2m each (regardless off type/duration)
lockboxes (if they can be sold ) will be 20k each (assuming keys are more obtainable)
keys (if they can be sold) will be 1.5m each(assuming they are are as rare as they are now) if they become as obtainable as lockboxes 30k each :)
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