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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:47:00 -
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Nowadays all I am seeing are more and more matches playing out like if I was playing a Domination mode in CoD.
Just grab a speed fit with a CR/ACR and you will own in this game.
And its more and more people I keep seeing playing Dust like this.
What the hell happened to tactics, what the hell happened to uniquely built fits? What happened to skill?
Changes to Damage mods!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6930
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:58:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Just grab a speed fit with a CR/ACR and you will own in this game. Hey now, there is more variety than that! You can also grab an Amarr or Gallente HMG sentinel.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Oswald Banecroft II
Muteki Armati Virium
43
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Just grab a speed fit with a CR/ACR and you will own in this game. Hey now, there is more variety than that! You can also grab an Amarr or Gallente HMG sentinel. Woot! Options!
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10857
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Posted - 2015.01.23 19:59:00 -
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Have you tried PC yet? I think CCP Rattati is already talking about overhauling it in the feedback section of the forums.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
770
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:04:00 -
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people will always use whats most effective. dont like it dont play it.
LogicGäó
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
840
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:07:00 -
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Assert Dominance wrote:people will always use whats most effective. dont like it dont play it.
So you are saying FOTM is okay?
Changes to Damage mods!
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
840
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:08:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Have you tried PC yet? I think CCP Rattati is already talking about overhauling it in the feedback section of the forums.
I have been thinking. Since most of my corp's PC are european timers or require me to stay up until 5-6 am, I have been thinking to switch to an American corp.
Changes to Damage mods!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6933
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:10:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:people will always use whats most effective. dont like it dont play it. So you are saying FOTM is okay? Look up strategic dominance. When one strategy causes the optimal outcome the vast majority of the time (ACR + scout or HMG sentinel) then why play anything else?
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
841
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Assert Dominance wrote:people will always use whats most effective. dont like it dont play it. So you are saying FOTM is okay? Look up strategic dominance. When one strategy causes the optimal outcome the vast majority of the time (ACR + scout or HMG sentinel) then why play anything else?
I get what he means.
I started dusting off my old MinAss with CR and I am performing 5x better than I mostly do with my Gallente Assault 
Changes to Damage mods!
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
6933
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Posted - 2015.01.23 20:16:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:I started dusting off my old MinAss with CR and I am performing 5x better than I mostly do with my Gallente Assault Tell me about it. I run an APEX MinAssault with an ACR. I don't have a single SP in that rifle or dropsuit and I do extremely well consistently. Solo, squad, doesn't matter.
Just call me Ripple. Ripple Riley.
@Ripley_Riley
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Jathniel
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1443
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:40:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:. . .What the hell happened to tactics, what the hell happened to uniquely built fits? What happened to skill?
That disappeared more and more as people complained more and more.
TACTICS:
"That tank shouldn't be able to kill my entire team with its big gun." (Railgun turret blast yield nerfed.)
"That tank shouldn't be able to kill my entire team with its blaster." (Blaster turret accuracy nerfed.)
"They shouldn't be allowed to put drop uplinks there and then still fight me and earn war points." (Equipment bandwidth.)
"Those nanohives shouldn't allow people to spam grenades on our position." (Nanohives nerfed.)
"That sniper shouldn't be able to shoot me from that distance/redline." (Sniper range nerfed. Redlines modified.)
"That sniper shouldn't be able to get up there and have a bird's eye view of everything! He keeps killing me when I try to get the objective." (Newer maps modified to ostracize snipers. Especially from objective combat.)
"That scout shouldn't be able to sneak up on me." (Cloak delay.)
We have consistently attacked the TACTIC in our balancing efforts, instead of enabling counter-tactics, by expanding on ideas proposed.
Next up:
"Those heavies shouldn't be able to spam that position with logis. We can't breach."
"Those REs shouldn't be able to be thrown at us heavies."
(Maybe not blocking snipers from objectives would have helped with this.  )
Somewhere along the way many players started mistaking their being outsmarted by another player, as that other player "cheating", or exploiting some systemic fault with Dust. Because there's just NO way, that other player is better than them.
Of almost all the games I play, I see people suffering from things like;
The Dunning-Kruger Effect
and
Confirmation Bias
more often in Dust. I go through the forums, and it is literally worse here than other forums I have visited.
The moment you open General Discussions, you are greeted by threads of some sort of perceived imbalance.
Sorry, OP. For all that has happened.
Retired
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
9309
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:42:00 -
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It's what Rattati wants.
Casual low risk high reward gameplay for everyone!
Special Snowflake powers! Activate!
Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente HAV name!
~Democracy will win!
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Mejt0
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
712
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Posted - 2015.01.23 22:53:00 -
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U forgot to add : laggers with A/CR.
That drops your shields faster than ScR do.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Not scared of death [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Honour and Mission over money
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
2871
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Posted - 2015.01.24 00:04:00 -
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I think that this game does a pretty good job of fooling people into thinking that they are actually exercising choice when they choose to be cannon fodder to the FOTM crowd.
This is a prototype-level sig. I worked hard for it, and I'm going to use it every time. So, just get used to it.
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
397
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Posted - 2015.01.24 00:44:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:I think that this game does a pretty good job of fooling people into thinking that they are actually exercising choice when they choose to be cannon fodder to the FOTM crowd.
Although I quoted you Onesimus, everyone here has given interesting posts----but I've read all these words before in previous months.
Dust 514 is truly "weird", and I mean that in a GOOD way. An enthusiastic way. It's a persistent game, so every 8 months or so (taking a guess) old players who wanted the game to mirror the structure of CoD type games, finally gave up Dust and moved onGǪ. while a small wave of new players taste Dust for the first time and bring their CoD fps techniques with them.
Like most of the players who've stayed with Dust long-term, I'm finally skilled at the coop/buddy-up/help-others techniques that make you immune to the CoD gimmicks ( some of those players' tricks will sometimes kill me on the map, but NEVER stop me from winning a Dust match). In time, you'll become seasoned too, to the point where CoD-ers just can't much defeat the Dust-skills you've developed.
For the time being, you'll have to endure the CoD habits of the new wave of players you're experiencing now,GǪ until they grow frustrated with their "broken" opinions of how wrong the game is designed, and learn to change or move on.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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