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Heracles Porsche wrote:

hold that wrote:

Why would a logi having a sidearm cause you to not recommend it? Amarr and min Apex are the best logi ones.

basically, my DR's go to suits that either seem either far inferior to another APEX suit in a certain role, or if I could design a much better suit for under 12k. The pure crapiness of the scrambler pistol causes the amarr logi to fall into this category, since I would much rather taken one of the 4 equipment slot logis onto the field. If you think I'm being to hard on this logi let me know, production on the vid is starting soon.

A basic Amarr logi (not APEX) designed with a good weapon set is actually seems like a very good suit indeed.

yeah there's a couple reasons why i feel this way. i have all 4 logis maxed, all cores maxed, ScR ScP maxed, and take into consideration that the logi apex suits have 32 BW i find the amarr and min one the most useful. The gal and cal i DR because those logi bonuses are only good with proto variants imo.


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Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 35	Posted - 2015.01.22 00:26:00 - [1] - Quote Sup fellow duties. Here is my guesswork about the usefulness/abilities of all APEX suits. I'm looking for intensive feedback before I put this into video form. The 5 APEX suits that I already own are indicated, also R= Recommend DR= Don't recommend Amarr suits in general- omg imperial scrambler pistol, what a garbage sidearm Amarr 'Dominus' Sentinel - I own this one, have footage. Great suit compared to many APEX, but weak choice for veteran heavies. Amarr 'Paladin' Commando - Can't tell if this would be any good, might have no answers for CQC Amarr 'Opus' Assault - Initially thought this suit would be good, but I heard it's unusable due to texture problems, DR Amarr 'Seraph' Logistics - Pure craziness of the sidearm makes me prefer another logi, DR Amarr 'Dragon' Scout - While I like uplink suits, I'd prefer the gal scout, DR Caldari suits in general - obsessive need to put bolt pistols on suits that can't get the maximum benefit from them, as well as state regulator modules, hampers these suits Caldari 'Shogun' Sentinel- Would generally take gallente's sidearm, but in certain situations could be good Caldari 'Samurai' Commando- I dislike regular sniper rifles, give me a tactical sniper rifle any day, DR Caldari 'Ratetsu' Assault - nano hive doesn't really seem needed Caldari 'Kampo' Logistics - only 3 equipment makes me prefer min/gal logi, DR Caldari 'Hawk' Scout - with this suit's layout, it's only real purpose (scanning) is better served by gal logi, DR Gallente suits in general - decent layouts all around Gallente 'Atlas' Sentinel - meh Gallente 'Cenurion' Commando - vid review up, fun suit and great for learning new weapons Gallente 'Spartan' Assault- not that big a fan of basic Assault rifles Gallente 'Chiron' Logistics - vid review up, my favourite APEX by far, breach AR and 4 logi tools for free is a pretty damn nice thing to have, R Gallente 'Serpent' Scout - Shotgun, dampening mods and an uplink, seems like a decent combo, R Minmatar - a couple silly modules, but overall great suit choices Minmatar 'Warlord' Sentinel - much weaker hp then Amarr sentinel, but better sidearm, prefer Amarr Minmatar 'Renegade' Commando - video review up, silly modules, but I love the weapon pairing. Minmatar 'Nomad' Assault - meh Minmatar 'Shaman' Logistics- another 4 equipment logi, probably the best APEX for WP farming, R Minmatar 'Tiger' Scout - video review up, great rush hacking and noob trolling suit, R Please check out my youtube channel for tons of video apex review coverage. Looking for lots of feedback before I start offering up these opinions in video form. If you have lots/important feedback on a particular suit, I will try to mention you with quick shout outs. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 36	Posted - 2015.01.22 01:09:00 - [2] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Hey, wanted to tell you your doing a great job with your videos. Their very helpful, so thanks bro and keep up the great work. Thanks so much! Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 36	Posted - 2015.01.22 01:44:00 - [3] - Quote We are 138 wrote: I use a non apex calmando the same way the apex is set up although I do have a tactical spiper on it, it works great for long range when they are to far out for the RR then I take a knee and start shooting the ground near infantry with the sniper.... Lol Im not a very good sniper let's say that but I prefer to snipe from up close. Gonna be the suit I go for even if it is bad. ya, i love my calmando, but reg sniper rifles are so much crappier then tactical that i consider them almost unusable. APEX suits are such a big investment, so I'm choosing not to recommend any APEX suits if I could build a better suit for under 12k ISK. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 36	Posted - 2015.01.22 03:03:00 - [4] - Quote Clone D wrote: Don't forget about the vX.1s that come with the war profiteer pack. It's just the nomad, atlas, and something else right? Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 38	Posted - 2015.01.23 08:44:00 - [5] - Quote hold that wrote: Why would a logi having a sidearm cause you to not recommend it? Amarr and min Apex are the best logi ones. basically, my DR's go to suits that either seem either far inferior to another APEX suit in a certain role, or if I could design a much better suit for under 12k. The pure crapiness of the scrambler pistol causes the amarr logi to fall into this category, since I would much rather taken one of the 4 equipment slot logis onto the field. If you think I'm being to hard on this logi let me know, production on the vid is starting soon. A basic Amarr logi (not APEX) designed with a good weapon set is actually seems like a very good suit indeed. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 38	Posted - 2015.01.23 09:15:00 - [6] - Quote Clone D wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: Clone D wrote: Don't forget about the vX.1s that come with the war profiteer pack. It's just the nomad, atlas, and something else right? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=184743&find=unread Thanks for the tip. This was actually quite helpful. Soo... v.X.1s different then other versions of the APEX suit? it looks like the dragon scout from the profiteer pack has RE instead of uplink, and the nomad assault has a nano hive instead of RE's, and the gallente sentinel has submachine gun instead of ion pistol. Did I miss anything? Hopefully that's all the info I need. If anyone has more APEX information or videos, don't hesitate to let me know about it before I start production over the next few hours. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 38	Posted - 2015.01.23 10:24:00 - [7] - Quote hold that wrote: Heracles Porsche wrote: hold that wrote: Why would a logi having a sidearm cause you to not recommend it? Amarr and min Apex are the best logi ones. basically, my DR's go to suits that either seem either far inferior to another APEX suit in a certain role, or if I could design a much better suit for under 12k. The pure crapiness of the scrambler pistol causes the amarr logi to fall into this category, since I would much rather taken one of the 4 equipment slot logis onto the field. If you think I'm being to hard on this logi let me know, production on the vid is starting soon. A basic Amarr logi (not APEX) designed with a good weapon set is actually seems like a very good suit indeed. yeah there's a couple reasons why i feel this way. i have all 4 logis maxed, all cores maxed, ScR ScP maxed, and take into consideration that the logi apex suits have 32 BW i find the amarr and min one the most useful. The gal and cal i DR because those logi bonuses are only good with proto variants imo. OK, so I gotta ask, how good a weapon is the assault scrambler rifle? Might be the only weapon I've never touched. I will definitely give the amarr logi a better recommendation than planned based on what you've said here. I can def tell you the gal logi apex performs very well for me, but then again I am skilled into gal logis and AR maxed as well. The basic scanner on it is capable of scanning far more people then I would have guessed. Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A
Heracles Porsche Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 38	Posted - 2015.01.23 18:41:00 - [8] - Quote Video should be up now: http://youtu.be/eRKVO74A96g Videos Erry Day https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYzz0FbBPVUbF6yWex1wb_A