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DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:14:00 -
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1.10.
You see, I'm a scout and it is basically all I run. Besides that, I have an adv assault wich I'm not all that into. Now for all of you verteran assaults, I don't care about your opinion. But for those of you scouts, what do you think about the scan nerf to scouts? Like I can't see a damn frontline behind me when I'm cloaked on my scout ck.0! The only defense I truly have is my ability to see enemies. I'm light as a feather and can be taken down with a paintball gun in a single shot to the head! So thank you CCP developers. There goes $40 too. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
5033
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:16:00 -
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Your isk, my wallet.
Anyway have a nice life wherever you find yourself at.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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gustavo acosta
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
696
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:18:00 -
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Give me dat isk doe Ma! Ayyy
GimmeDatSuhWeet isk
We need a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
2198
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:22:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:The only defense I truly have is my ability to see enemies.
You mean you have to use your eyes like every other suit??? Cry me a river =.=
Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V
My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
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DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:23:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Your isk, my wallet.
Anyway have a nice life wherever you find yourself at.
P.s. After reading your post I understand how you feel as an Amarr scout but I can in all honesty say the nerf made me use the cloak less offensively and more as a defensive equipment much like it was designed to be.
Thank you for the knowlegable response :). And my isk is staying right here. |
DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:24:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:DrewEon wrote:The only defense I truly have is my ability to see enemies. You mean you have to use your eyes like every other suit??? Cry me a river =.=
No, the ability to see enemies over 10m. That's the point of being a scout. I used to know when to attack and to retreat, but now I rely in luck. |
DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:26:00 -
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gustavo acosta wrote:Give me dat isk doe Ma! Ayyy
Thank you for the knowlegable response :). And my isk is staying right here. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
3084
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:26:00 -
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Prototype Caldari Scout, though in truth it is Proto MinLogi, CalScout, Madrugar, Gunnlogi, and Advanced AmarrSent but I mostly only use my Caldari Scout.
I don't think the nerfs are too rough. The dynamic scan is actually pretty interesting to me. The nerf to Scan while cloaked is one that I actually like in practice. It is a specific choice between being unseen and being able to see. I disagree with the concept that "the only defense I truly have is [your] ability to see enemies." If you are Cloaked, your primary defense is the ability to not be seen whether by Radar or visually. You are trading one defense for another in the same way that Armor Plated Scout sacrifice Speed for HP.
For me, I will Cloak into an area, hide behind a wall, and decloak. I will check my map to see if there is anyone around. In this regard, I am turning my Scan into a weapon because I will use it to get into position while remaining quite safe. I see it as "when I activate my defense I lose my offense" given the weapon delay and scan detriment. It is all how you look on it. It isn't difficult to adapt to the change; if I can do something with my mediocre self, anyone should be able to do it.
I am sorry that you are no longer enjoying your suit of choice and are not enjoying the game. I hope you can find some enjoyment elsewhere but I still suggest that you give it another shot.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:37:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:
I will check my map to see if there is anyone around.
I am sorry that you are no longer enjoying your suit of choice and are not enjoying the game. I hope you can find some enjoyment elsewhere but I still suggest that you give it another shot.
"I will check my map to see if anyone is around." THAT'S THE PROBLEM. The Nerf made it so much harder to see enemies. And I may keep playing, just because I've played since beta and it is so hard to give up the game. I just wish CCP hadnt hit us scouts so hard. |
Songs of Seraphim
Murphys-Law
235
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:50:00 -
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Although I'm primarily an assault and logistics, I do use a scout.
Two hits to the Caldari Scout and it's no longer godly overpowered as it was before. It's in a good place right now.
As long as you use your cloak defensively and used for, you know, scouting, you should be fine.
Use your cloakck to get into and out of areas unseen.
It's too bad that your role isn't as fun for you.
If anything, try different fits.
I know I have an Allotek Plasma Cannon and Ishukone Nova Knife speed fit on one of my scout ck.0. It's great when you just want to have fun and blap other scouts.
Caldari loyalist
Assault ck.0. Logistics ck.0. Scout ck.0. Commando ck.0. & Sentinel ck.0.
Next skill: Python ADS
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Timtron Victory
Horizons' Edge
241
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:52:00 -
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I really didnt notice any of that but I just recently started playing scouts. And with lag I sometimes cant see a sentinel right in front of me, its like they are teleporting and not working. I have had to deal with cloaked Sentinel ( I am not joking). The scan system to be has always been broken so I didnt notice the nerf.
Dust Weekly Lottery
Proud Christian
Jesus Loves You
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
283
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:53:00 -
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Thank the Lord we can go ahead and get rid of these pseudoninja types. This wasn't what the scout was before and is a bastardization of a previously rare and difficult playstyle that was emergent and not dependent upon a FOTM mechanic.
The less ninja wannabes the better for the game. Now lets get on with improving the scout for what it should be, which is to actually move up quickly and get a first hand visual of the enemy with minor versatility for uplinks and active scans as well as offer support such as sniping.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
3087
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Posted - 2015.01.12 04:58:00 -
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DrewEon wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:
I will check my map to see if there is anyone around.
I am sorry that you are no longer enjoying your suit of choice and are not enjoying the game. I hope you can find some enjoyment elsewhere but I still suggest that you give it another shot.
"I will check my map to see if anyone is around." THAT'S THE PROBLEM. The Nerf made it so much harder to see enemies. And I may keep playing, just because I've played since beta and it is so hard to give up the game. I just wish CCP hadnt hit us scouts so hard.
It only made it harder when cloaked. The only thing that the nerf did was remove the free lunch that was the cloak. It is still completely fine. I use an Advanced Cloak. I found myself doing the same thing anyway even when the change was not in place because I always wanted to be sure that I would have half my Cloak in the event that I needed to run and hide.
For my play style, the alteration was very minor.
"This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
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DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 11:33:00 -
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Songs of Seraphim wrote:Although I'm primarily an assault and logistics, I do use a scout.
Two hits to the Caldari Scout and it's no longer godly overpowered as it was before. It's in a good place right now.
As long as you use your cloak defensively and used for, you know, scouting, you should be fine.
Use your cloakck to get into and out of areas unseen.
It's too bad that your role isn't as fun for you.
If anything, try different fits.
I know I have an Allotek Plasma Cannon and Ishukone Nova Knife speed fit on one of my scout ck.0. It's great when you just want to have fun and blap other scouts.
How do you use a cloak defensively?! You can't see enemies at all, most enemies can see you, and you can't use a weapon! |
DrewEon
Onikanabo Brigade
Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2015.01.12 11:49:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:DrewEon wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:
I will check my map to see if there is anyone around.
I am sorry that you are no longer enjoying your suit of choice and are not enjoying the game. I hope you can find some enjoyment elsewhere but I still suggest that you give it another shot.
"I will check my map to see if anyone is around." THAT'S THE PROBLEM. The Nerf made it so much harder to see enemies. And I may keep playing, just because I've played since beta and it is so hard to give up the game. I just wish CCP hadnt hit us scouts so hard. It only made it harder when cloaked. The only thing that the nerf did was remove the free lunch that was the cloak. It is still completely fine. I use an Advanced Cloak. I found myself doing the same thing anyway even when the change was not in place because I always wanted to be sure that I would have half my Cloak in the event that I needed to run and hide. For my play style, the alteration was very minor.
The only thing the patch did was Nerf the cloak?!?!? Did you read? Have you not noticed that at past 4 meters, without bonuses our precision shoots up to 40!? |
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