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use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 08:38:00 -
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tl:dr: What can I do to show new players the good aspects of dust?
I have made and brand new alt and I gave in 5 million ISK and it is skilled into assault dropships I plan to give away some dropships in the academy for the newbs after placing some uplinks in a good spot, If they are sort of OK flyers I will give them an assault dropship to play around with.
what other cool things can I show them?
The reason I am doing this is I originally thought that people that played this game were pathetic, I thought the only people that kept playing the game were people that like unfair matches where they crush new players with powerful suits and they were not challenging themselves at all, I stuck around to try understand why people were so depraved and I worked that that the typical veteran was not actually depraved I was just misinterpreting what was going on so If I show new players interesting things maybe they will stick around instead of leaving in disgust. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2015.01.06 09:27:00 -
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Iv got an alt cooking away with passive sp an Obe of these days I'm going to run him through the academy in a supper noob proofgGunnlogi with XT missiles it be a slaughter might even teach those academyboys something about tanks.
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:02:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Iv got an alt cooking away with passive sp an Obe of these days I'm going to run him through the academy in a supper noob proofgGunnlogi with XT missiles it be a slaughter might even teach those academyboys something about tanks.
Convincing everyone a typical dust player is a greifer not interested in a challenge is the exact opposite of what I want to do
I am going to give away the assault dropships instead of murdering people with it. |
Colossus of Sardia
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:13:00 -
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use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly wrote:tl:dr: What can I do to show new players the good aspects of dust?
I have made and brand new alt and I gave in 5 million ISK and it is skilled into assault dropships I plan to give away some dropships in the academy for the newbs after placing some uplinks in a good spot, If they are sort of OK flyers I will give them an assault dropship to play around with.
what other cool things can I show them?
The reason I am doing this is I originally thought that people that played this game were pathetic, I thought the only people that kept playing the game were people that like unfair matches where they crush new players with powerful suits and they were not challenging themselves at all, I stuck around to try understand why people were so depraved and I worked that that the typical veteran was not actually depraved I was just misinterpreting what was going on so If I show new players interesting things maybe they will stick around instead of leaving in disgust.
i like your idea, but is there something else we can do?
i mean making an alt and let them kill me in the academy would not help them much.
recruiting them and helping them after they went out of the academy is already too late for them since you'll to throw them to the wolves at this point already...
i think the only way of fixing that would be that the time new players have to spend in the academy will be extended... A LOT!
But that is something only CCP can do and if they don't move, new players will abandon this game... |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:20:00 -
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Better question: why do I care what they think?
Used to wonder why people'd hang out on the forums but wouldn't play the game...
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1932
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:23:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Better question: why do I care what they think?
You still dusting haven't seen you Jason or char in quite some time . We should all get alts and troll the academy
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.01.06 10:49:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Better question: why do I care what they think?
In what sense is that a better question? Unless your objective is to make people think you don't have a basic grasp of reality
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:16:00 -
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It's tough, even I think on occasion of giving up playing, and i've been around since the start. My best advice is to have them play w/a good group of guys, so they start linking fun w/this game from the start. You could always try to recruit them so they feel someone's got their back. But for sure good luck man, I know I would like Dust to keep on going, but it does depend on the playerbase, so good luck and keep that good attitude. |
Sinboto Simmons
Murphys-Law
General Tso's Alliance
7321
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:22:00 -
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Squad up with them, send isk, give advice, free tanks.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2
Born of the Brutor tribe
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
3604
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:33:00 -
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ADS are not really cost effective for all.
Show them how to be cost effective, we need moar heavies 
Situational awareness also known as passive scan.
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.01.06 11:58:00 -
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use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Iv got an alt cooking away with passive sp an Obe of these days I'm going to run him through the academy in a supper noob proofgGunnlogi with XT missiles it be a slaughter might even teach those academyboys something about tanks. Convincing everyone a typical dust player is a greifer not interested in a challenge is the exact opposite of what I want to do I am going to give away the assault dropships instead of murdering people with it.
You must not play pubs. The typical dust player "IS" a griefer.
If CCP really wanted to keep new potential money spending customers they would have fixed proto stomping pubs a long time ago.
Pegasis would be doing new players a favor of letting them know in the academy what the real game is like so they can quit sooner.
If you can't kill them scan them.
Meta 13
Proto Stomp G-I Scout
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS
1417
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:04:00 -
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It must really suck being a new player today. |
voidfaction
Nos Nothi
930
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:09:00 -
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Colossus of Sardia wrote:use1youtube1to1learn1how to1fly wrote:tl:dr: What can I do to show new players the good aspects of dust?
I have made and brand new alt and I gave in 5 million ISK and it is skilled into assault dropships I plan to give away some dropships in the academy for the newbs after placing some uplinks in a good spot, If they are sort of OK flyers I will give them an assault dropship to play around with.
what other cool things can I show them?
The reason I am doing this is I originally thought that people that played this game were pathetic, I thought the only people that kept playing the game were people that like unfair matches where they crush new players with powerful suits and they were not challenging themselves at all, I stuck around to try understand why people were so depraved and I worked that that the typical veteran was not actually depraved I was just misinterpreting what was going on so If I show new players interesting things maybe they will stick around instead of leaving in disgust. i like your idea, but is there something else we can do? i mean making an alt and let them kill me in the academy would not help them much. recruiting them and helping them after they went out of the academy is already too late for them since you'll to throw them to the wolves at this point already... i think the only way of fixing that would be that the time new players have to spend in the academy will be extended... A LOT! But that is something only CCP can do and if they don't move, new players will abandon this game...
I would turn passive SP and isk transfers off until character is out of academy and increase time in academy.
If you can't kill them scan them.
Meta 13
Proto Stomp G-I Scout
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1932
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:10:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:It must really suck being a new player today.
Dude it really sucks being a new player when I started in Aug 2012 as i was thrown in amongst proto bears and sagis/suyrias all in my mlt starter fits and dire sentinal but I persivered and stuck with it the newberrys have it much easy er now than ever as they are at least given the chance to grind a std sur adv wepon and basic core skills before being sent to the wolves.
The biggest problem with player retention isn't the game it's the players who are unwilling to keep at it and try..... Instead the just moan wine and cry before rage quitting and tbh that's not the sort of folks who shouldbe playing this game.
Proud Caldari purist . Rank 10 colonel omiwarrior.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.01.06 12:52:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Better question: why do I care what they think? You still dusting haven't seen you Jason or char in quite some time . We should all get alts and troll the academy
Yep, you see what happens when this game goes to console. What a waste. Well, CCP finally learned that didn't they.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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