DUST Search - are caldari assault bonus going to change?

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Jacques Cayton II wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

bolsh lee wrote:

sir RAVEN WING wrote:

Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault...

Me: Can the CA have a better bonus?

CCP: No!

Me: Okay... *Cue 'Okay' Meme*

I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer...

Really?
Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game.
Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR.

I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff.

Ima stop you right their armor loving hippie. Extender buff huh? *looks at 66 hp complex ext* wow big buff looks the same to me. Recharger/energizer buff 5% is so much it affected me like an extra 5% or something. Oh look at these armor plates that give no penalties and give you 75 hp hmmm i can stack ferros reps and armor yeah." i want damage mods," says shield tanker. ccp says, "no bad shield tanker no damage mods for you"

Rattati buffed basic and enhanced extenders considerably. 50% more HP for both of them. They used to be 22 and 33 remember?
And a 5% buff is still a buff. In fact, its exactly what many shield users asked for, so yeah...

And yes, Ferroscales give a bit more HP than extenders, but its not like an all Ferroscales build is even remotely viable. Like at all.
3 ferroscales and 2 repairers is what most people use now. That's at least what I prefer. I have a few fits that use 4 and 1, but I usually use 3 and 2.
While the common shield setup is 4 extenders and 1 energizer/recharger. So really, Shield users usually end up with more HP than armor users do now. Usually.

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Luna McDuffing COALICION LATINA Smart Deploy 136	Posted - 2015.01.05 17:03:00 - [1] - Quote I read somewhere that there might be some changes to the caldari assault bonus. Is this true or just wishful thinking? If it is in fact true then what is the change going to be?
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2375	Posted - 2015.01.05 17:22:00 - [2] - Quote Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme Kill Death Ratio is an invalid metric and thus should not be used to determine skill. Stabby Stabber.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6848	Posted - 2015.01.05 17:24:00 - [3] - Quote I...Kind of Like Cal assault Bonus. The only problem is that hte CAlmando Has The same bonus PLUS a damage bonus! I would edit the CAl Assault Bonus to: 4% Reload speed & Rate Of Fire per Level (%20 max) .... NOW we are talking... XD Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1207	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:36:00 - [4] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer...
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 818	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:37:00 - [5] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Basically Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 616	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:39:00 - [6] - Quote The skill might change to either shorter spool time per level or less kick per level. Changes to Damage mods!
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2381	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:40:00 - [7] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Would make sense. He also has a Gallente Assault. Kill Death Ratio is an invalid metric and thus should not be used to determine skill. Stabby Stabber.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2381	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:46:00 - [8] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: The skill might change to either shorter spool time per level or less kick per level. Well the RR skill reduces kick. Kill Death Ratio is an invalid metric and thus should not be used to determine skill. Stabby Stabber.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 616	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:46:00 - [9] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... The RR was overperforming at everything. It has high enough alpha damage to destroy shields with ease. And outperform guns like the AR at CQC with no effort with any suit. Adding a slight more kick and longer spool time while giving the CalAssault bonuses to either reduce kick or spool per level would make it perform better on a CalAssault. Working as intended. Changes to Damage mods!
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 616	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:48:00 - [10] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: The skill might change to either shorter spool time per level or less kick per level. Well the RR skill reduces kick. Ratatti said that the reduce kick bonus was more preffered than the spool time bonus. So I expect the bonus on CalAssault to be changed yo less kick per level for CalAssault for the next update hopefully. Changes to Damage mods!

Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2022	Posted - 2015.01.05 19:49:00 - [11] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. Home at Last <3
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 498	Posted - 2015.01.05 20:04:00 - [12] - Quote The RR performed too well in CQC, so the nerf hammer came down. Only problem i see now is that it's no longer precise at range. It's effective 80-100m, but with the kick you can't maintain a taget at that range. Find a way to reduce kick while ADS without buffing hipfire & i'll be super happy. Who am i kidding, i'm happier than a pig in sh*t with the RR. It still my fav on my scout fit & icm having fun trying to get my timing down. Sometimes i'm on & as soon as a red rounds the corner they get hit, sometimes the reds will see my shots fly by right before they walk out. Only frustrating thing is watching someone at 100m walk a straight line & not be able to put fire on them. Thia is supposed to be the RR sweet spot & it feels like a ScR or bolt pistol would do the job better. Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 498	Posted - 2015.01.05 20:06:00 - [13] - Quote 2Berries wrote: it feels like a ScR or bolt pistol would do the job better. Just feels that way, do not read too much into this. Feel me? Have you considered a career in costumed aggression?
DozersMouse XIII Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 909	Posted - 2015.01.05 20:09:00 - [14] - Quote whatever the bonus is I really hope it compliments the racial weapon like the amarr/minmatar assault/weapon bonuses really compliment each other play smarter not harder
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5354	Posted - 2015.01.05 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote Rattati was posting on the forums when the question kept popping up, and it seems it's on his personal agenda of things to change, along with the Gallente's. WHEN it is going to happen is another question, though.
Kierkegaard Soren Eridani Light Horse Striker 619	Posted - 2015.01.05 20:33:00 - [16] - Quote Reduced kick and increased zoom when ADS would be nice. Dedicated Commando. CEO of Eridani Light Horse Strikers. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing."
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1336	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:07:00 - [17] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. Ima stop you right their armor loving hippie. Extender buff huh? looks at 66 hp complex ext wow big buff looks the same to me. Recharger/energizer buff 5% is so much it affected me like an extra 5% or something. Oh look at these armor plates that give no penalties and give you 75 hp hmmm i can stack ferros reps and armor yeah." i want damage mods," says shield tanker. ccp says, "no bad shield tanker no damage mods for you" We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Assert Dominance III 0bamacare 40	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:14:00 - [18] - Quote GA bonus is not that great either. banned just doing my part to make this game better.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1208	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:20:00 - [19] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. Ima stop you right their armor loving hippie. Extender buff huh? looks at 66 hp complex ext wow big buff looks the same to me. Recharger/energizer buff 5% is so much it affected me like an extra 5% or something. Oh look at these armor plates that give no penalties and give you 75 hp hmmm i can stack ferros reps and armor yeah." i want damage mods," says shield tanker. ccp says, "no bad shield tanker no damage mods for you" QFT
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 616	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:29:00 - [20] - Quote Assert Dominance III wrote: GA bonus is not that great either. Being accurate while not needing to ADS is extremely hepful. Especially on CQC. Changes to Damage mods!

Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2027	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:49:00 - [21] - Quote Jacques Cayton II wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. Ima stop you right their armor loving hippie. Extender buff huh? looks at 66 hp complex ext wow big buff looks the same to me. Recharger/energizer buff 5% is so much it affected me like an extra 5% or something. Oh look at these armor plates that give no penalties and give you 75 hp hmmm i can stack ferros reps and armor yeah." i want damage mods," says shield tanker. ccp says, "no bad shield tanker no damage mods for you" Rattati buffed basic and enhanced extenders considerably. 50% more HP for both of them. They used to be 22 and 33 remember? And a 5% buff is still a buff. In fact, its exactly what many shield users asked for, so yeah... And yes, Ferroscales give a bit more HP than extenders, but its not like an all Ferroscales build is even remotely viable. Like at all. 3 ferroscales and 2 repairers is what most people use now. That's at least what I prefer. I have a few fits that use 4 and 1, but I usually use 3 and 2. While the common shield setup is 4 extenders and 1 energizer/recharger. So really, Shield users usually end up with more HP than armor users do now. Usually. At least in any good builds. Home at Last <3
Jacques Cayton II Eternal Beings Dark Taboo 1337	Posted - 2015.01.05 21:59:00 - [22] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Jacques Cayton II wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. Ima stop you right their armor loving hippie. Extender buff huh? looks at 66 hp complex ext wow big buff looks the same to me. Recharger/energizer buff 5% is so much it affected me like an extra 5% or something. Oh look at these armor plates that give no penalties and give you 75 hp hmmm i can stack ferros reps and armor yeah." i want damage mods," says shield tanker. ccp says, "no bad shield tanker no damage mods for you" Rattati buffed basic and enhanced extenders considerably. 50% more HP for both of them. They used to be 22 and 33 remember? And a 5% buff is still a buff. In fact, its exactly what many shield users asked for, so yeah... And yes, Ferroscales give a bit more HP than extenders, but its not like an all Ferroscales build is even remotely viable. Like at all. 3 ferroscales and 2 repairers is what most people use now. That's at least what I prefer. I have a few fits that use 4 and 1, but I usually use 3 and 2. While the common shield setup is 4 extenders and 1 energizer/recharger. So really, Shield users usually end up with more HP than armor users do now. Usually. Hahahahahahahahahahshahshahshaha. So wait wait your saying shield tanks have more hp than armor now lol gtfo troll. You obviously dont shield tank and fyi i used to amor tank and still do from time to time so just stop just fo to your corner. Also if you ain't using complex ext u are wasting pg cpu We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 1844	Posted - 2015.01.05 22:32:00 - [23] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: bolsh lee wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: Ha, anything good for Caldari? Pfft, now if you'd ask about the Gallente Assault... Me: Can the CA have a better bonus? CCP: No! Me: Okay... Cue 'Okay' Meme I've heard Rattati is pro Gallente hence why shields/Caldari never get love and the RR gets hit hard with the nerf hammer... Really? Well I heard the RR got nerfed because it was making up a total of ~40% of the rifle kills in the game. Actually, we didn't hear that. We saw it. Rattati provided metrics and reasons for why he nerfed the RR. I also saw that shields have gotten multiple small buffs in the past. Such as the Recharger/Energizer buff and Shield Extender buff. The problem there fizzer is that even with it making up 40% of the kills, it doesn't necessarily mean it's overperforming or overpowered. Just incredibly popular. I still feel that the changes brought about by the nerf are overwrought and make the rail rifle unable to be used in 'close quarters' which contributes to a lot of frustration for anyone who plays along racial guidelines. A damage penalty at close quarters (the laser rifles method of balance) would have been preferable to the unpleasant amount of kick that was put in. With all that said though, the most popular secondary bonus and one most easily applicable was a 5% reduction to kick per level for caldari assault, in addition to its Reload speed bonus. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6869	Posted - 2015.01.05 22:47:00 - [24] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Assert Dominance III wrote: GA bonus is not that great either. Being accurate while not needing to ADS is extremely hepful. Especially on CQC. True, I have level V dispersion and level three Gallente Assault and my hipfire is almost as good as the Assault Scrambler Rifle's if not better. Can't wait till I have Gallente Assault level V l. Once that is achieved I will realistically never need to ADS ever again. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law 788	Posted - 2015.01.05 22:55:00 - [25] - Quote Never, Caldari is fine. Intended. -CeeCeePee 10100111001 Shield tanking is hard mode /period. 10100111001


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