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DAAAA BEAST
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:00:00 -
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I would like to know how this heavy performs with HMG and Forge gun . Mostly interested in HGM but I will need to AV also !
Was first in Minmatar Sentinel but I heard good things about caldari heavies ! So how is it ?
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:03:00 -
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Never tried it. But from the looks of it, not very good head to head, but good with a bit of cover. Good shield depleted time makes it a fast repper.
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Texas Killionaire
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:13:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Never tried it. But from the looks of it, not very good head to head, but good with a bit of cover. Good shield depleted time makes it a fast repper.
The cal heavy is best used by experienced heavy players.
I've 1 v 2 an amarr heavy and his logi many times.
Give it a shot.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:21:00 -
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I use it. Basic version still seems to be useless. Advanced version is what I use.
Three damage mods, a basic HMG and a shield regulator. Base movement speed is good enough to allow for jumping and strafing or the godawful, cancerous, still-not-removed-from-the-game worm wiggle (whereby one steps right for one centimeter, steps left for one centimeter, and repeats, thereby bending spacetime such that bullets bend around you).
Good for flanking maneuvers. If you find yourself going straight up head-to-head in a brawl, you dun goofed worse than Goofy. Remember, HMG suppository action.
But, if you insist on going brawling against blatantly superior-at-brawling armour sentinels or super armour tanked assaults, well, I have no advice, except: Don't.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:54:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mostly interested in HGM I too am interested in the heavy gun machine.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
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Posted - 2015.01.05 03:59:00 -
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ahhhhh the caldari heavy.....he loves my flux greandes.
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Jacques Cayton II
Eternal Beings
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:13:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:ahhhhh the caldari heavy.....he loves my flux greandes.
Toss away as i close in thats a good half a second of dps gone from you
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
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Posted - 2015.01.05 04:20:00 -
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Great with cover. Bad at hallways.
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Verily! So much for all that.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:20:00 -
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be wary of amarr commandos, they out dps you
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Ryme Intrinseca
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:20:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Mostly interested in HGM I too am interested in the heavy gun machine.
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.01.05 08:59:00 -
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Caldari sentinel and the minmatar sentinel are both excellent weapon platforms for both HMG and forge guns.
Both of them require a higher skill investment in core skills like shields and armor to be effective, but when properly skilled and running a good fit the suits are absolutely beastly.
For the caldari sentinel you want maxed core fitting and shield skills. The higher your armor skills the better because of the passive HP boost. Dont bother with armor modules.
It also requires a bit more patience to poerate than the gallente or amarr suits. This patience pays off in the ability to rapidly destroy enemies on the field and regenerate. The calsent is an excellent ambusher and the minmatar (which requires completely different fittings and tactics) is excellent as a hit and run.
Gallente and amarr sentinels are the most common because the learning curve and skill required to use both effectively is lower. Caldari gains minimal benefit from logis so the sentinel logi pairing is much less efficient.
When you run caldari you can tear anything apart with good timing, awareness and patience.
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QRT30
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Posted - 2015.01.05 09:39:00 -
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Caldari heavy you have play like a scout. Shoot ,cover, wait for shields, shoot, repeat... But adv is the beast with two complex damage modes and energizer in high slots.
QRT30 - all Caldari lvl 5, Min/Gal all lvl.3 - core maxed
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DAAAA BEAST
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:48:00 -
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Thanks for the tips everyone ! I am obsessed with dropsuits that require skill and are more complex to use. I will skill them both to 3 !
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Posted - 2015.01.05 12:52:00 -
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Its a good FG camper
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.01.05 13:09:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:Thanks for the tips everyone ! I am obsessed with dropsuits that require skill and are more complex to use. I will skill them both to 3 !
Minsent is hilarious but harder to employ properly than the caldari.
Shield fatty mantra:
Neverstopmovingneverstopmovingneverstopmovingneverstopmoving.
Repeat constantly until the words settle into your brain as gospel.
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Ku Shala
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Posted - 2015.01.05 14:47:00 -
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advance can have 90+ shields per second after 1 second without a regulator my proto has over 100/s, damage mod not required, try dampeners or kinkats for more fun, regen tanking is key leave those extenders at home
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:00:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:I would like to know how this heavy performs with HMG and Forge gun . Mostly interested in HGM but I will need to AV also !
Was first in Minmatar Sentinel but I heard good things about caldari heavies ! So how is it ?
I am skilled to Proto in Caldari, Minmatar, and Amarr Sentinels. For a while I was often using all three suits in the course of a match depending on situation.
The Caldari Sentinel is tough, particularly against other HMG Sentinels due to the damage profile of the HMG. The biggest weakness I found was the lack of stamina. It is not very mobile. Good for defending an area, but you donGÇÖt want to have to run any long distances, as you will constantly have to stop and catch your breath.
I tend to use the Amarr Sentinel more in that role now, using two Proto Armor repairs to emulate the quick recovery of a shield suit. The Amarr Seninel is technically even slower than the Caldari, but it has ample stamina, which makes it effectively a lot faster for covering longer distances.
If you are just defending one point, and donGÇÖt intend to travel, the Caldari Sentinel with an HMG is very effective.
Read my HMG Sentinel Guide for more information.
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Fox Gaden
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:08:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:be wary of amarr commandos, they out dps you
To alaborate on Leovarian's point, Laser Rifles hurt like hell.
While the HMG gets -15% damage against your shields, the Laser Rifle (and other laser weapons) gets +20 damage against shields.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:13:00 -
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DAAAA BEAST wrote:I would like to know how this heavy performs with HMG and Forge gun . Mostly interested in HGM but I will need to AV also !
Was first in Minmatar Sentinel but I heard good things about caldari heavies ! So how is it ?
1 sec Shield Depleted delay. Enough said. Plus shield has natural resistance to Projectiles and these shields have resistance to LASER weaponry...So....Yeah , its pretty beast.
My Fit:
2 Cx Shield Energizers
2 Shield Extenders
1 Armor Rep
Low EHP , High Regen Sent.
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:15:00 -
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QRT30 wrote:Caldari heavy you have play like a scout. Shoot ,cover, wait for shields, shoot, repeat... But adv is the beast with two complex damage modes and energizer in high slots.
Actually it plays like an Assault, assuming someone knows how to play a shield Assault suit correctly, which is actually what you just described.
The Minmatar Sentinel with a Burst HMG is the one that plays like a Scout. (2 Kin Cats on an Advanced or Proto Min Sent sprints at 7.7m per second.) Always fun to chase Assault suits down and shoot them in the back of the head. Min Sent with 2 Kin Cats is also the best HMG fit vs Scouts, although it is very weak against other HMG Sentinels.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2015.01.05 15:21:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:DAAAA BEAST wrote:Thanks for the tips everyone ! I am obsessed with dropsuits that require skill and are more complex to use. I will skill them both to 3 ! Minsent is hilarious but harder to employ properly than the caldari. Shield fatty mantra: Neverstopmovingneverstopmovingneverstopmovingneverstopmoving. Repeat constantly until the words settle into your brain as gospel.
Breakin Stuff is absolutely right, particularly in regard to the Min Sent. The only time you should not be sprinting is when you are shooting, and even then you should be strafing and moving as much as possible.
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2015.01.05 16:58:00 -
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Its one of my favourite suits to use with a forge gun. I like to run the Magsec with it as well, the magsec works very well as a sidearm to the forge gun I find. I suppose some would argue a SMG would work better but, Caldari flavour and all that....
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Breakin Stuff
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Posted - 2015.01.05 17:16:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Its one of my favourite suits to use with a forge gun. I like to run the Magsec with it as well, the magsec works very well as a sidearm to the forge gun I find. I suppose some would argue a SMG would work better but, Caldari flavour and all that....
I use a bolt pistol.
Damn scouts trying to stop me from ganking vehicles don't kill themselves, you know.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
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Posted - 2015.01.05 17:22:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:
I use a bolt pistol.
Damn scouts trying to stop me from ganking vehicles don't kill themselves, you know.
I do now and then...
Playing as : Calscout + Amarr Assault
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.05 18:33:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:
I use a bolt pistol.
Damn scouts trying to stop me from ganking vehicles don't kill themselves, you know.
I do now and then...
That is what I was thinking. Obviously Breakin Stuff has never seen me try to play a Scout. 
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