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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:07:00 -
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I keep hearing people say that commandos are underpowered and weak and so on and so forth. And I want people to explain why. I've recently perked into the Caldari Commando and I can say I'm happy with my STD Caldari Commando. The damage buff and two weapons alone is worth having fewer slots and I've never missed having a grenade since they tend to be a distraction in the first place.
The State will always survive.
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Vicious Minotaur
1627
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:21:00 -
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Everything.
Duh.
I am a minotaur.
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
54
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:22:00 -
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They're too ******* slow. Easy targets with how slow they are. Much easier to kill than a Heavy or Medium frame with that slow ass speed.
Should've been a Medium/heavy suit. Somewhere in the middle there.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
Rogue Relics is my home away from home.
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1698
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:27:00 -
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slower than logis heavy hitbox without sentinels resistance |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:29:00 -
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They are slower than Assaults, but have less HP.
They also have higher scan profiles and precision.
They have fewer High and Low slots, so you can't fit a lot of modules to change them (My std Min Scout has the same number of High/Low slots as a Proto Minmando).
They have no grenade slot.
The benefits they do get, like having 2 Light Weapons, are no where near enough to compensate for all the disadvantages.
Thunderbolt. verb and noun.
"James thunderbolted in his pants."
"I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
4909
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:32:00 -
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They should of been light frames.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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Kira Lannister
Ancient Exiles.
2451
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:20:00 -
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Being able to equip a scrambler rifle and combat rifle is underpowered.
"The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire."
Book of Exiles 1:3
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Syeven Reed
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1106
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:25:00 -
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The fact that they 'only' have two weapon slots.
SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED
EvE - 21 Day Trial
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
6683
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:30:00 -
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Slow, large targets, worst EWAR of any suit and no grenade slot
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
639
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:51:00 -
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Because commando should be in medium category. It should be assault brother that trade slots for light weapon slot.
Instead commando trade : 'speed, hitbox, slots, ewar, grenade slot, regen' For 2nd light weapon slot.
Ask yourself : is 2nd light weapon slot worth this price?
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
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Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
4096
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:55:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:They are slower than Assaults, but have less HP.
They also have higher scan profiles and precision.
They have fewer High and Low slots, so you can't fit a lot of modules to change them (My std Min Scout has the same number of High/Low slots as a Proto Minmando).
They have no grenade slot.
The benefits they do get, like having 2 Light Weapons, are no where near enough to compensate for all the disadvantages. Don't they get a DMG bonus?
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2014.12.31 04:07:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Because commando should be in medium category. It should be assault brother that trade slots for light weapon slot.
Instead commando trade : 'speed, hitbox, slots, ewar, grenade slot, regen' For 2nd light weapon slot.
Ask yourself : is 2nd light weapon slot worth this price? You're forgetting: 10% more damage and really fast reload speed More HP You can use any combination of SR, SCR, CR, RR, MD, LR, and AR including their variants.
Great combos Gallente: breach AR / RR Caldari: assault SCR/ assault RR Minmatar: SCR / assault CR Amarr: dual SCR
MAG + Dust cb vet, an alt of Velvet Overkill & Agent Overkill AKA Enkouyami (Main PSN).
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
639
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Posted - 2014.12.31 04:38:00 -
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The-Errorist wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Because commando should be in medium category. It should be assault brother that trade slots for light weapon slot.
Instead commando trade : 'speed, hitbox, slots, ewar, grenade slot, regen' For 2nd light weapon slot.
Ask yourself : is 2nd light weapon slot worth this price? You're forgetting: 10% more damage and really fast reload speed More HP You can use any combination of SR, SCR, CR, RR, MD, LR, and AR including their variants. Great combos Gallente: breach AR / RR Caldari: assault SCR/ assault RR Minmatar: SCR / assault CR Amarr: dual SCR
Assaults fit dmg mods while having equal/better hp, better regen, better speed etc etc.
These combinations won't help them much when you only need one/less than one clip to kill anything but sentiniels [only light weapons].
Minmando is the only one worth using, because of Swarms bonus. Assaults will do everything else better.
Loyal to State. Led by Tibus Heth.
Ready for sacrafise [like Admiral Yakiya Tobil-Toba].
Ps. I have 2 minmatar slaves
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Grand Master Kubo
PIanet Express Smart Deploy
268
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Posted - 2014.12.31 05:02:00 -
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If they're consistently used in PCs then at least to some degree they're not underpowered. I personally think commandos are in a good place. I see a lot Minmatar Commandos being used and the Gallente Commando is my favorite suit to use. I can't speak for the other commandos but the Gallente Commando is not underpowered. |
Ld Collins
Titans of Phoenix
179
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Posted - 2014.12.31 05:15:00 -
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The problem with commandos are that people are using them improperly they are not assualt suits. Commandos are designed to cover large areas and defend them from attack on land or air. Their low ewar capabilities make them balanced as they are easily detected by vehicles or scanners. This fault allows them to act as lures to dropship pilots or tankers looking for easy kills. This also allows rooftop fgs or snipers to operate without interruption. Having no armor damage bonus is also another hint that this slow character with a large hitbox may not be very useful in close quarters or open areas and the lack of a sidearm strengths this idea. Now the boost in reload speed and light weapon damage lets you know that distance and cover are your top priorities. |
Reign Omega
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
1038
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Posted - 2014.12.31 05:25:00 -
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:If they're consistently used in PCs then at least to some degree they're not underpowered. I personally think commandos are in a good place. I see a lot Minmatar Commandos being used and the Gallente Commando is my favorite suit to use. I can't speak for the other commandos but the Gallente Commando is not underpowered.
I have a ton of fun GCom fits I play with, don't even get me started on the plasma cannon lols. I dont know about others but I use mine for mid range engagements whenever I can, with a cqc fit with a breach ar and a sbotty. I got 400 of the neo gk.0 from the event however many months ago and still have 250 or so...havent had to buy any yet. Good solid suit.
Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
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doc lowroar
Random Gunz RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2014.12.31 06:17:00 -
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Pg/cpu a bit weak
"Wherever you go, there you are" -BB
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Chimichanga66605
Vader's Taco Shack
272
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Posted - 2014.12.31 06:22:00 -
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Buff the Min Commando. I dare you...
Mk.0 Specialist, Republic Loyalist
"Badassery is not born, but often thrust upon you." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt
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GRIM GEAR
PredaKonZ
422
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Posted - 2014.12.31 06:25:00 -
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The combination of having a large hit box while having a slow movement and regeneration speed, provide little help when it comes to confrontations with vehicles/ ships even assault suits can out tank, move and regen faster.
Cup of tea anyone?
I came here to mingle can you hear that jingle that would be me lingle.
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7th Son 7
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.12.31 06:32:00 -
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yep. slow, fat and weak bout sums it up. |
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