DUST Search - Hardcore equipment bandwidth mode

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

voidfaction wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

No; it would be more efficient and satisfactory to all parties to go after troublesome deployable with fixes adjusting numbers than the method described in the OP.

This makes the 2nd time they have tried adjusting the spam I mean numbers. Maybe the 3rd time they will just let logi drop unlimited EQ and add 15db profile so it takes a gal logi with 4 focused scanners to find them. It only looks like spam if someone can see them right? It most likely is not even the Logi spamming them because Assault is the new FOTM with tthe 2nd highest bandwidth and how many can 1 assault drop then switch to HP stacked FOTM assault?
Simple fix. If you spwan in a suit that does not have the EQ you droped then they go poof.
I can't spawn in with a proto cloak and then switch to no cloak and still have the cloak or spawn in once with my focused scanner then change to a suit with no scanner and still scan. hell i can't even get wp for scanning unless i am in a squad using the scanner but some can get and collect wp for hives and uplinks from everyone on team and not even have them on there suit.

Funny how people don't have memory of this once upon a time and how nobody liked it back then.

And for the record this would be the 4th iteration not 2nd and that BW system you see is the originally intended design that was supposed to be in the game in the first place.

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Acturus Galaxy Tank Crew Omega 340	Posted - 2014.12.27 11:14:00 - [1] - Quote Hi all The use of equipment should be made even more hardcore in my opinion. Make it so that equipment is connected to the suit you are wearing and disappear as you die or swap suits at a supply depot. This will make the logi even more valuable and one the team need to spend resources to protect. The more expensive logi suit will gain more wp but also has a higher cost when killed. We would have two different kind of scouts, one scout build with dampening and high alfa dps as assassin to seek out the yellow logi on the other team. While a scout is deployed to protect the logi with high precision and scanning range as anti scout role. It would be even more fun once we have drones deployed by the logi, he will get even more expensive both in isk and sp and hence in a much higher degree need protection from the team and an even more important target by the opposite scouts. Everyone talks about hardware reloading, why not change equipment to a similar hardcore mode? This will once and for all eliminate equipment spam and the logi will in a much higher degree have monopoly on the warpoints from deployed equipment. At the moment I misused the current system, start out with proto scout to deploy proto uplinks, and then quickly change to advanced commando suit. I get allot of waypoints and do not rise loosing the more expensive scout suit. We also need deployable shields by the commandos to put up protection fields around the logi and protect him/her from snipers. The commandoes could be the body guards of the logi, assaults as the main offensive force, scouts for intel and taking out strategic logi suits and installations etc.
robin williams' ghost whisky tango foxtrot sir 367	Posted - 2014.12.27 11:20:00 - [2] - Quote One question, are you high? Robin Williams endorses this corp
Acturus Galaxy Tank Crew Omega 340	Posted - 2014.12.27 11:39:00 - [3] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: One question, are you high? No, just bored and with a proto commando suit with no clear role. His huge hitbox makes him impossible to miss. He is good at taking incomming fire while standing close to the logi. It would be allot more fun as scout to hunt down a specific target, instead of being light assault suits.
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game RUST415 1814	Posted - 2014.12.27 14:14:00 - [4] - Quote that is a stupid idea. im a full time logi. i die enough as it is. All Hail Legion
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1643	Posted - 2014.12.27 14:25:00 - [5] - Quote The loss of all EQ on field on death promotes heavily hiding. Hiding as in deep friendly redline in more serious matches. Once set up, those links+high position hives are life. Pro-choice! For hazardous self-activated inertial dampeners! We want to live on the edge (((of MCC)))
Acturus Galaxy Tank Crew Omega 343	Posted - 2014.12.27 14:43:00 - [6] - Quote ADAM-OF-EVE wrote: that is a stupid idea. im a full time logi. i die enough as it is. That is because there is no reason to protect you once you have dropped your equipment. You are then disposable unlike the assault. I find myself more often trying to help the proto assault stay alive than the logi. I currently depend more on the assault to stay alive than the logi.
Acturus Galaxy Tank Crew Omega 343	Posted - 2014.12.27 14:46:00 - [7] - Quote KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: The loss of all EQ on field on death promotes heavily hiding. Hiding as in deep friendly redline in more serious matches. Once set up, those links+high position hives are life. True, that could be a unfortunate consequence. But seriously, who would voluntarily drop his equipment and then stay in the red line doing nothing for 20 min. If it becomes an issue, then set a max range on the link to your equipment before you loose the connection and they fail to function.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 806	Posted - 2014.12.27 15:07:00 - [8] - Quote That is almost as bad as the bandwidth and profile idea Yay, We have 3x more uplinks on the battlefield now and you have to have a proto scanner to find them on the rooftops
Acturus Galaxy Tank Crew Omega 343	Posted - 2014.12.27 15:50:00 - [9] - Quote voidfaction wrote: That is almost as bad as the bandwidth and profile idea Yay, We have 3x more uplinks on the battlefield now and you have to have a proto scanner to find them on the rooftops I hope you get the sarcasm OP. I like the idea of forcing a logi to stay a logi alot more than the bandwidth way. I would say if you drop equipment as a logi you spawn back as a logi or you lose your link to your equipment. same suit type to keep the link no matter what suit. So you drop RE's as a scout you spawn back as a scout or RE"s go bye bye. Not as strict as your idea. But seeing uplinks on every rooftop in near every game is getting old real fast and most take a proto scanner to see them. I am just trying to find a good reason to skill into logi, used to run logi a year back. Now I have pro scout with proto uplinks, scout with repair and injecter and even a commando with repair tool. I get lots of wp as it is today , wp that the dedicated logi should have recieved.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 806	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:11:00 - [10] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: voidfaction wrote: That is almost as bad as the bandwidth and profile idea Yay, We have 3x more uplinks on the battlefield now and you have to have a proto scanner to find them on the rooftops I hope you get the sarcasm OP. I like the idea of forcing a logi to stay a logi alot more than the bandwidth way. I would say if you drop equipment as a logi you spawn back as a logi or you lose your link to your equipment. same suit type to keep the link no matter what suit. So you drop RE's as a scout you spawn back as a scout or RE"s go bye bye. Not as strict as your idea. But seeing uplinks on every rooftop in near every game is getting old real fast and most take a proto scanner to see them. I am just trying to find a good reason to skill into logi, used to run logi a year back. Now I have pro scout with proto uplinks, scout with repair and injecter and even a commando with repair tool. I get lots of wp as it is today , wp that the dedicated logi should have recieved. So you can spam the hell out of proto Uplinks. Seems to be the new thing in pub matches. I run 2x proto flux scanners on my scout and can't take all the uplinks out fast enough they are spammed more than they were before they come up with this new idea to reduce the spam. same thing that happend the first time they tried fixing the EQ spam they made it worse only now it is more just uplink spam because what is better than an uplink on a roof that takes a proto scanner to find in a pub match.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18086	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:15:00 - [11] - Quote No; it would be more efficient and satisfactory to all parties to go after troublesome deployable with fixes adjusting numbers than the method described in the OP. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
Assert Dominance III 0bamacare 28	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:41:00 - [12] - Quote read the first 2 lines and... NO. banned DMG is trash
Robocop Junior research lab 1225	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:47:00 - [13] - Quote Losing not loosing UGH when will people stop this. If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
da GAND Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 1079	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:48:00 - [14] - Quote meh seems like that might be a bit too hardcore but it's not a bad idea though Should Legion be on the ps4?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10595	Posted - 2014.12.27 21:58:00 - [15] - Quote NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Bandwidth is ok as it is because it has already reinforced the role of the logistics player. The only time you should lose equipment when switching suits is when the suit you're switching into has less bandwidth than the one your previously wore. Simple. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10595	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:00:00 - [16] - Quote da GAND wrote: meh seems like that might be a bit too hardcore but it's not a bad idea though No. It's a terrible idea. It will likely just guarantee that most logistics players will either deploy equipment and go AFK in a corner in the redline or just not deploy equipment at all. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
voidfaction Nos Nothi 806	Posted - 2014.12.27 22:19:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: No; it would be more efficient and satisfactory to all parties to go after troublesome deployable with fixes adjusting numbers than the method described in the OP. This makes the 2nd time they have tried adjusting the spam I mean numbers. Maybe the 3rd time they will just let logi drop unlimited EQ and add 15db profile so it takes a gal logi with 4 focused scanners to find them. It only looks like spam if someone can see them right? It most likely is not even the Logi spamming them because Assault is the new FOTM with tthe 2nd highest bandwidth and how many can 1 assault drop then switch to HP stacked FOTM assault? Simple fix. If you spwan in a suit that does not have the EQ you droped then they go poof. I can't spawn in with a proto cloak and then switch to no cloak and still have the cloak or spawn in once with my focused scanner then change to a suit with no scanner and still scan. hell i can't even get wp for scanning unless i am in a squad using the scanner but some can get and collect wp for hives and uplinks from everyone on team and not even have them on there suit.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 18086	Posted - 2014.12.28 21:33:00 - [18] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: No; it would be more efficient and satisfactory to all parties to go after troublesome deployable with fixes adjusting numbers than the method described in the OP. This makes the 2nd time they have tried adjusting the spam I mean numbers. Maybe the 3rd time they will just let logi drop unlimited EQ and add 15db profile so it takes a gal logi with 4 focused scanners to find them. It only looks like spam if someone can see them right? It most likely is not even the Logi spamming them because Assault is the new FOTM with tthe 2nd highest bandwidth and how many can 1 assault drop then switch to HP stacked FOTM assault? Simple fix. If you spwan in a suit that does not have the EQ you droped then they go poof. I can't spawn in with a proto cloak and then switch to no cloak and still have the cloak or spawn in once with my focused scanner then change to a suit with no scanner and still scan. hell i can't even get wp for scanning unless i am in a squad using the scanner but some can get and collect wp for hives and uplinks from everyone on team and not even have them on there suit. Funny how people don't have memory of this once upon a time and how nobody liked it back then. And for the record this would be the 4th iteration not 2nd and that BW system you see is the originally intended design that was supposed to be in the game in the first place. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
voidfaction Nos Nothi 808	Posted - 2014.12.29 01:30:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: voidfaction wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: No; it would be more efficient and satisfactory to all parties to go after troublesome deployable with fixes adjusting numbers than the method described in the OP. This makes the 2nd time they have tried adjusting the spam I mean numbers. Maybe the 3rd time they will just let logi drop unlimited EQ and add 15db profile so it takes a gal logi with 4 focused scanners to find them. It only looks like spam if someone can see them right? It most likely is not even the Logi spamming them because Assault is the new FOTM with tthe 2nd highest bandwidth and how many can 1 assault drop then switch to HP stacked FOTM assault? Simple fix. If you spwan in a suit that does not have the EQ you droped then they go poof. I can't spawn in with a proto cloak and then switch to no cloak and still have the cloak or spawn in once with my focused scanner then change to a suit with no scanner and still scan. hell i can't even get wp for scanning unless i am in a squad using the scanner but some can get and collect wp for hives and uplinks from everyone on team and not even have them on there suit. Funny how people don't have memory of this once upon a time and how nobody liked it back then. And for the record this would be the 4th iteration not 2nd and that BW system you see is the originally intended design that was supposed to be in the game in the first place. Still don't change the fact they need to add the BW to the equipment being dropped not the Dropsuit using the equipment. You want to keep your uplinks running then keep spawning in with a suit with uplinks.
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1443	Posted - 2014.12.29 01:35:00 - [20] - Quote What the flying meatballs you are definitly blazed up.So you are pretty muchdestroyeing the use of a logi role for some people. What is the best suit for links and nanohives. Maybe AV as well for those Proxies. Logi, but if this happens, booom useless logi; only good for reps if your using it temporarly Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Give me da iskiez Gk0 Scout yay :)



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