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DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6531	Posted - 2014.12.23 05:25:00 - [1] - Quote I ran the Caldari Assault two ways. I ran it the way my Caldari friends and forum goers told me to run it and I ran it the way the guys in Gallente FW and my Minmatar friends told me to run it. Both are for an advanced Caldari Assault. -Caldari/Forum Recommendation: 1X Complex Shield extender 2X Enhanced Shield extenders 1X Enhanced Recharger 2X Shield Regulators Advanced RR Standard MagSec SMG M1 Locus Grenade Standard Nanohive -Gallente/Minmatar Recommendation 2X Complex Damage Modifers 2X Advanced Precision Enhancers 2X Enhanced Range Extenders Duvolle AR Standard Nova Knives C-7 Flux Grenades Standard Nanohives After spending a good 20+ games on each fit, I have something to say. -The Gallente/Minmatar class worked A LOT better. With the Caldari/Forum reccomendation I struggled to pull off a 2KD most games and struggled to fight off against most players at all ranges. Even at long ranges I tended to melted by Scrambler Rifle fire, Laser Rifles and Tactical AR's. CQC was harder then using a Minmatar Scout with no modules. It seems like there is a heavy in every hallway and a scout in every corner. Most of my kills were either lucky kills where we both had sub 20 armor left or I stole someone's kill from long range. I rarely had fights I dominated (outside of militia scrubs who die to a passing breeze). -The Gallente/Minmatar class was a lot more practical. I only had the base HP on my suit but I found this was not an issue since I was able to detect my oponents way before we met, which meant I was able to get in advantageous positions to reduce the target's visibility on me while maximizing my view on them. By having a very high DPS primary weapon I was able to cleave through logis and subsequently the heavies they were supporting all in one magazine. Militia suits also fell fast allowing me to focus on more dangerous targets. Scouts also became a non issue. My largest amount of deaths in this suit came from vehicles. I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the results derived from these first hand experiences. ... Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2756	Posted - 2014.12.23 05:41:00 - [2] - Quote EWAR > Recharging proto damage mod AR > advanced RR Doesn't surprise me at all. I've never really liked shield recharging suits of any flavor -- I've always found stacking HP (often with a damage mod or two) more effective with my aggressive playstyle. YMMV.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6531	Posted - 2014.12.23 05:47:00 - [3] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: EWAR > Recharging proto damage mod AR > advanced RR Doesn't surprise me at all. I've never really liked shield recharging suits of any flavor -- I've always found stacking HP (often with a damage mod or two) more effective with my aggressive playstyle. YMMV. I had no HP mods though. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Vicious Minotaur 1548	Posted - 2014.12.23 05:49:00 - [4] - Quote Playstyles, playstyles, play styles, pl ays ty l es.... I fit my Caldari Assault similar to the Caldari/Forum recommendation way, and I find myself managing a 4+ KDR in competitive matches where Scotty does not engage sexually with the pooch (and I suck at the game). Main difference, though, is that I use one reactive plate for some extra buffer and a Bolt Pistol, 'cause the magsec is trash. Fit for the way you play. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 107	Posted - 2014.12.23 06:08:00 - [5] - Quote I took notice of your white suit tonight. Best way to play CAL, after they made the RR a POS, is to find the redline and then take two steps backwards and **** yourself; because it sucks, it's slow, low movement speed, low stam and stam low regen. The min assault is in a different league. If you want to John Woo, with two complex dam mods, shield charger, shield energzer, Damps.-with two SMGs--totally impractical but a hoot.
sir RAVEN WING Kaalmayoti Warzone Control 2087	Posted - 2014.12.23 06:32:00 - [6] - Quote It's telling you to try harder. I run a very simple fit, and I am just fine. I stay out of CQC and stay at my range. (But ScR seems to be a problems, as it dominates all ranges.) Lasers hurt, yes, but so does my BP. Anyway, maybe it just isn't your playstyle. "Raven's damn good with those knives." - Maleki If I didn't want you to see me, I would've brought a cloak.
Tesfa Alem Death by Disassociation 640	Posted - 2014.12.23 09:03:00 - [7] - Quote Well if your running proto rifle and two complex damage mods> ADV rifle no damage mods. The part that made me laugh/cry was seeing the second fit as a sort of tanked minmatar scout. (nova knives? really?) my ADV caldari assault fit 4 extenders ADV RR Magsec M8 compact hive 2 damps Hit them hard, hit them first, hit them from range, and have enough tank to get away or fight any CQC suprises. Its not my go to assault fit, nowadays its mostly the Amarr Assault w/ Scrambler or my Min Assult, but it does work very well for pegging people at long range/ flanking. Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game RUST415 1579	Posted - 2014.12.23 10:55:00 - [8] - Quote The important thing to note is : the Cal Assault is more effective when fit as a Gal/Min I can agree with this, as running my Ck.0 quite often you see a range of fits. - DMG mods (5 highs so theres room for 2) - Biotics - Dual tank - Shield tank ^ They are the most common. In a pub stomp the shield tank is epic Everywhere else not so much, good regen means nothing without a chance to use it The Caldari Assault needs better regen delays and recharges before Shields will be the best fit AR buffs along with ScR alpha dmg make a Shield fit suicide, as much as I hate Armour Ck.0s I'm not surprised
Alena Ventrallis Vengeance Unbound 2318	Posted - 2014.12.23 11:07:00 - [9] - Quote Give the CalAssault recoil reduction to hybrid - rail weaponry and see if that fixes the problem. Do not go gentle into that good night; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 5212	Posted - 2014.12.23 11:11:00 - [10] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: EWAR > Recharging proto damage mod AR > advanced RR Doesn't surprise me at all. I've never really liked shield recharging suits of any flavor -- I've always found stacking HP (often with a damage mod or two) more effective with my aggressive playstyle. YMMV. I had no HP mods though. Neither do scouts. Accept the Federation and our love, for we will never do you wrong.

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6532	Posted - 2014.12.23 13:48:00 - [11] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: It's telling you to try harder. I run a very simple fit, and I am just fine. I stay out of CQC and stay at my range. (But ScR seems to be a problems, as it dominates all ranges.) Lasers hurt, yes, but so does my BP. Anyway, maybe it just isn't your playstyle. I'm more of the cautious defensive player. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 609	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:01:00 - [12] - Quote That little ewar you got on this fit doesn't give you any big advantages. People with scanners will scan better, also with that little hp on assault you're done after few shoots. Cal scout [more hp/better ewar than those kind of fits] is better at that job [lite ewar assault]. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
duster 35000 Algintal Core Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:03:00 - [13] - Quote Vicious Minotaur wrote: Playstyles, playstyles, play styles, pl ays ty l es.... I fit my Caldari Assault similar to the Caldari/Forum recommendation way, and I find myself managing a 4+ KDR in competitive matches where Scotty does not engage sexually with the pooch (and I suck at the game). Main difference, though, is that I use one reactive plate for some extra buffer and a Bolt Pistol, 'cause the magsec is trash. Fit for the way you play. Yeah, they ruined the magsec... Choo Choo
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4268	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:27:00 - [14] - Quote Why not mix the two? 2 extenders 1 dmg mod 1 energizer/recharger 1 reactive 1 regulator "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14657	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:44:00 - [15] - Quote I doubt that anyone using a Matari or Gallente Assault actually suggested those fits. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Nirwanda Vaughns 1096	Posted - 2014.12.23 14:52:00 - [16] - Quote i only use my C-II RR setup if i'm going mid-long range with it. caldari are long range and so even though there is the ARR they are better at ranges, i'll sit about 60m and just get into a nice ledge or building and plough rounds into them best i can. personally i think the scoped kick is a bit too much for a gun thats supposed to specialize in long range engagements, i even proposed that teh caldari assault bonus mirror that of the gallente and have it as a 5% reduction to Rail weapons scoped kick and dispersion, it also seperates it more from the commando as the two suits are far too similar a role. have the commando as the run n gun ARR user and the assault specialize in the RR Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner
Ku Shala The Generals 1089	Posted - 2014.12.23 15:00:00 - [17] - Quote 2 complex extenders 1 basic energiser 1 advanced energiser 1 complex shield regulator 1 complex kincat sb RR and play peak a boo *-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)* Caldari Loyalist Burst RR should fire like a charge sniper
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 777	Posted - 2014.12.23 21:57:00 - [18] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: That little ewar you got on this fit doesn't give you any big advantages. People with scanners will scan better, also with that little hp on assault you're done after few shoots. Cal scout [more hp/better ewar than those kind of fits] is better at that job [lite ewar assault]. This I really don't understand why people keep trying to make ewar assaults, but I won't complain just makes em easier to kill. Wall hacks don't matter if there's rarely a wall between us my friend... We are assault suits... not scouts.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 6534	Posted - 2014.12.23 22:11:00 - [19] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: Mejt0 wrote: That little ewar you got on this fit doesn't give you any big advantages. People with scanners will scan better, also with that little hp on assault you're done after few shoots. Cal scout [more hp/better ewar than those kind of fits] is better at that job [lite ewar assault]. This, I really don't understand why people keep trying to make ewar assaults, but I won't complain just makes em easier to kill. Wall hacks don't matter if there's rarely a wall between us my friend... We are assault suits... not scouts. I'll take a damage mod or a kincat any day over ewar if I won't simply go for more e/hp or regen/rep. I mean hell one decent active scanner that someone is carrying on your team ruins all the Ewar assaults. EWAR has always been usable on Assaults, people just don't try. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.


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