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Talon Paetznick II
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:18:00 -
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this is a bit of a dup post but in needs to be out there nonetheless without infringing on other topics (also venting some rage created by the server problem)
so I think the nerfing of scouts needs to stop especialy the EWAR related ones the fact of the matter is scouts were bound to be hated as soom as the role could be competently fufilled and people fail to recognize it as a skill role rather than flavor of the month OP but I only run min and Gal scouts on a regular basis (mostly min) so I don't now about cal and ammar (which seem alright for now)
so here is the problem
at this rate scouts willl get nerfed back into 1.6 when rail rifles were tuning us into instant swiss we got the love we needed in terms of fitting resources in 1.8 I think everyone can agree with that
but cloaks were why we got nerfed so bad (yes I think they were OP) but once the scout was made a feasible roll people hated us. this is because YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HATE US WE USE GUERRILLA TACTICS TO DEMORALIZE THE ENEMY. the entire playstyle of the scout is based around high burst DPS, and mobility, but with a very low combat sustainability (hard to survive consecutive confrontations)
scouts retain both the highest damadge and death potential used to it was more death than anything, now however people have come to hate the 1HK and our ability to evade in terms of ewar and combat (despite the fact that this is our role)
the biggest problem with scouts and their relation to others is the fact that we fight dirty and people refuse to accept this (we can only win by surprise and blitz)
we are meant to out move other suits exceed your ability to track our movements and kill your A** from behind and seriously a cloak is not that hard to spot If you are really that concerned put a precision enhancer on your suit and pay attention to your radar
this post is not for the sake of the hotfix but for the sake of the viability of the scout role as well as how players view them
here are some pearls of wisdom to invalidate the commonly used and faulty arguments
we can be killed It happens all the time my K/D rarely pushes 1.15 and I die alot so dont tell me that we dodge bullets becuase the problem is your aim
don't tell me we are like a ghost when we have cloaks because you have bad eyesight
don't tell me scouts are to fast for your HMG get off the couch and jog in the mourning so you can lose some weight and fit into an assault suit instead of killing people en mass from your comfort zone with your comfort food
and don't b**** when I take you from behind because face it do you honestly think I intend to play nice in the bloodstained playground of carnage that is new eden
above all quit complaining that scouts are instantly OP and are immortal, try running one and you will find that we are actually PAINFULLY AWARE of our mortality
I am scout and the bane of heavys since 1.6
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.22 05:57:00 -
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Hello there, Talon. And I think you're reacting to a misunderstanding that the community is gradually getting clear about.
Very few enemy players in th matches hate YOU or your role (which, from your descriptions APPEARS to be righteous Scouting work).
When most angry players post that they hate the "Scouts", and they need to be reduced, they are referring to the players who use the scout suits to bonus a cloak device, and run around all through the match killing random bystandards, and dashing off with the use of the impish cloak. Such players are not "SCOUTING" anything--and often don't have an interest in developing the scout skills that can help their team.
This is just a serial killer thrill they are endulging in for themselves.
Angry victims will refer to them as Scouts because of the suit and the cloak they chose---YOU are not the issue, nor most of your true Scout community.
Gradually, Dust players are getting wise to the distinction. Scouts with cloaks are interestingly valuable in the gameplay. Cloak-tricker-treaters with shotguns and knives are increasingly disruptive in the gameplay.
I suspect that the haters are not pointing fingers at YOU.
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
No story can have life without writers and publishers.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.12.22 06:03:00 -
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TL;DR
Get rid of shoot from cloak with a good three seconds. Scouts become respectable again. Simple. Nerf the real crutch.
Boycott Black Thursday!
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.12.22 06:36:00 -
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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:TL;DR
Get rid of shoot from cloak with a good three seconds. Scouts become respectable again. Simple. Nerf the real crutch.
The delay is already longer than the spool time for the regular RR. Not only that, but the cloak obliterates your passive scan range and sound (which can be pretty important).
Thanks for the TL;DR, by the way. I couldn't read the two posts above you. |
jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:18:00 -
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Talon Paetznick II wrote:
so I think the nerfing of scouts needs to stop especialy the EWAR related ones the fact of the matter is scouts were bound to be hated as soom as the role could be competently fufilled and people fail to recognize it as a skill role rather than flavor of the month OPPAINFULLY AWARE of our mortality
People did realize that it was supposed to be a skill role so they asked to make changes, The ones that complain cannot handle a role that needs skill |
jane stalin
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:22:00 -
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