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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.12.18 22:28:00 -
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So ccp decided to make the burst ar an anti-shield combat rifle. I'm fine with that. They also gave it 16 more bullets than the combat rifle. Even with level 5 minmatar assault the burst ar has a larger clip. How is that balanced in any way?
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Bam Nutshot
Kaalmayoti Warzone Control
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Posted - 2014.12.18 22:29:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:So ccp decided to make the burst ar an anti-shield combat rifle. I'm fine with that. They also gave it 16 more bullets than the combat rifle. Even with level 5 minmatar assault the burst ar has a larger clip. How is that balanced in any way?
because everything CCP makes is balanced 
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BL4CKST4R
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:33:00 -
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Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip.
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.18 23:44:00 -
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how many rounds does the burst ar have?
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:04:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:how many rounds does the burst ar have?
70
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.19 00:11:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip.
The Burst AR has mostly the same stats as the CR, except...
+Blaster Profile
-Projectile Profile
+A little damage
- A little range
So far this seems alright... It's logically balanced, and makes perfect sense... until...
+16 Magazine size.
Out of nowhere. With no justification for it at all.
A Burst AR has more rounds in its magazine than the CR does with Min Assault 5.
Ratatti is getting a little to buff happy with these ARs, IMO.
Please, make my Opus pretty...
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BL4CKST4R
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3486
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Posted - 2014.12.19 11:02:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip. The Burst AR has mostly the same stats as the CR, except... +Blaster Profile -Projectile Profile +A little damage - A little range So far this seems alright... It's logically balanced, and makes perfect sense... until... +16 Magazine size. Out of nowhere. With no justification for it at all. A Burst AR has more rounds in its magazine than the CR does with Min Assault 5. Ratatti is getting a little to buff happy with these ARs, IMO. 70 isn't even a multiple of 3!!! Its like they went... 1"Hey, how big should the mag be for this Burst AR?" 2"Oh! Well were giving the Standard AR a Magazine of 70 for no reason at all! Just give it that!" 1"Alright! Sounds good!"
That's CCP trying to fix the AR by ignoring the main problem, which is **** ty range.
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thehellisgoingon
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
85
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Posted - 2014.12.19 11:24:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:So ccp decided to make the burst ar an anti-shield combat rifle. I'm fine with that. They also gave it 16 more bullets than the combat rifle. Even with level 5 minmatar assault the burst ar has a larger clip. How is that balanced in any way?
Go sit down somewhere. The CR hits for 126% at 88+ meters. The AR falls off to something like 30%-40%
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.12.19 11:37:00 -
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Larger mag makes up for our range.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:46:00 -
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thehellisgoingon wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:So ccp decided to make the burst ar an anti-shield combat rifle. I'm fine with that. They also gave it 16 more bullets than the combat rifle. Even with level 5 minmatar assault the burst ar has a larger clip. How is that balanced in any way? Go sit down somewhere. The CR hits for 126% at 88+ meters. The AR falls off to something like 30%-40% We need to buff the range of the AR. About time it gets some love.
There's no point in having a discussion if you're going to flat out lie
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
9170
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Larger mag makes up for our range.
Which negates the problem in the first place.
How is that balance? It then gets a huge bonus to kick and dispersion through the Gal Assault.
The problem here is the fact that a Gallente weapon that mimics the combat rifle is overall a better weapon on a Gal Assault V than the original on a Min Assault V
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3203
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:50:00 -
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Because all the Gallente on the forums said so.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3203
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip. The Burst AR has mostly the same stats as the CR, except... +Blaster Profile -Projectile Profile +A little damage - A little range So far this seems alright... It's logically balanced, and makes perfect sense... until... +16 Magazine size. Out of nowhere. With no justification for it at all. A Burst AR has more rounds in its magazine than the CR does with Min Assault 5. Ratatti is getting a little to buff happy with these ARs, IMO. 70 isn't even a multiple of 3!!! Its like they went... 1"Hey, how big should the mag be for this Burst AR?" 2"Oh! Well were giving the Standard AR a Magazine of 70 for no reason at all! Just give it that!" 1"Alright! Sounds good!"
The burst AR had more DPS than the CR before the buff...LOL
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6443
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:52:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip.
Plus the combat rifle has a better damage profile.
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hfderrtgvcd
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:53:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Because it still has lower range, although the clip might be a bit to much depends on the damage per clip. Plus the combat rifle has a better damage profile.+10% armor / -5% Shields (AR) 10% Shields -10% Armor
they changed it to +15 armor /-15 shields a while ago
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jade gamester
B.A.L.A.M.O.R.Y. G.L.O.R.Y.
66
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Posted - 2014.12.19 22:15:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Larger mag makes up for our range.
Orrrr put the mag back to 60 and introduce a bonus on the gal assault that increases range :)
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.12.19 22:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Larger mag makes up for our range.
No. That's what the higher DPS is for.
More DPS for less range.
Not more DPS and bigger Mags for less range.
That's not a fair exchange.
Someone's gotta tell the stupids that their ideas are bad, and I guess it's my job...
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