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TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:34:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks
Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. |
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:51:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto
I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well.
Just seriously... why do they expect shield profiled weapons to perform on par with armor profiled if they have 2 armor tanking races and one dual tank? The kill numbers on ARs and ScR were supposed to be lower since Caldari were the only ones highly vulnerable to them. Now though, it's just GG for the Caldari and I'll have to brick or speed tank my Minmitar suits. Good bye dual tanking... shields are useless. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 12:54:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:againnst proto stompers.
show em you truly give no fucks Is that any specific variant or do you mean all variants? I find the standard to work all right but when it comes to driving everyone out of their hidey holes or else, you gotta bring the noise with the assault variant. Breach is for spit wadding vehicles or getting dem OHKOs on starter fits. Typically speaking though veteran proto stompers know to spaz the **** out while they spam their assault variant rifles when you use a breach MD, PLC, or Forge gun. I get lit up like a christmas tree everytime I run one of those things against proto stompers. Probably because anything else is a non-threat when you're strafe spazzing in full proto. Edit: Wait did they add new variants to the game? Haven't logged on yet... is the snowball launcher a new thing? ... it does 0 direct and 0 splash damage... and only comes in proto I'm guessing its a glitch? Did they **** with the current variants or is this some new variant? If so, then mother *******, lol! I just started respeccing into MDs. Already getting second hand ****** by them buffing AR even more to make it competitive against armor tanks as shield tanking is just becoming more of a joke as well. no its literally a snowball launcher
A holiday joke? |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 13:38:00 -
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Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. |
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Posted - 2014.12.18 14:00:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh.
Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen.
They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable.
That's how you make an event. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 16:16:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:DeathwindRising wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Holiday updates are all well and good but we don't even have all racial weapons and at the least racial types. I mean a breach RR ScR and CR are all just edits just like a snowball launcher. Likewise Tactical RR and CR as well as the Burst RR and ScR would be the same...
not to be a Scrooge here, but there are so many useful edits that a gimmicky edit seems like a waste of their apparent limited resources. youre being a scrooge during the holidays and should feel bad. that launcher was a much needed comic relief for the community and game in general. some of us take this game too seriously, its nice to relax and have a laugh. Well excuse me princess, for wanting this game to be a success that people will give a **** about instead of wanting to add a few chortles for 15 minutes from less than 3000 people. I know tons of people really find the hit detection and forge gunning for 0 damage to be just the funniest joke the world's ever seen. They want to add a holiday event with snow ball launchers? How about a special game mode where you use unlimited frontline fitted snowball launchers that ohko players in the game mode. No isk, no wp, just entertainment. If you're going to waste time might as well make it enjoyable. That's how you make an event. You must be so much fun at parties. "Guys, seriously, this dip isn't on ice, do you want to give everyone food poisoning? Also, while we're on the topic of health, you really should watch the sodium on those chips, it might lead to hypertension" Also, wtf are you talking about with the forge. I kill infantry and tanks all the time with a forge gun.
The point was that doing 0 damage to cause false hit markers is already a thing. Non-Assault forge guns, rail turrets, and the occasional shot here and there already do what the snowball launcher does. You can brown nose as much as you want but currently Dust has been an objective market failure. I don't want it to be that, it has potential, but wasting dev time on items that not even everyone can use (you need at least level 3 mass drivers to access it) when your game isn't even complete is just rubbing old wounds for no good reason.
I'm not cracking the whip on Rattatai they can do whatever they want it's their job, I'm just saying it was a pretty wasteful addition when they could of literally just done nothing. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:22:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement.
If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 19:34:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance.
Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
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Posted - 2014.12.18 20:43:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:Ghosts Chance wrote:hes a troll guys... his corp name is literally "the fun police"
this probably took someone 10 minuites to do
step one, take AUR proto mass driver skin step two, take shader for effect color that you just spent 2 months working on and remove all color fromm the projectile step three, savee to spreadsheet and watch as someone accuses you of wasting precious dev time on the forums.
the reality is that he was probably at work after hours screwing around when he made it so dont fret, no (billed) dev hours were wasted and it cost CCP no money to implement. If it is literally that easy to implement new weapons then that's embarrassing that we are still missing most of the variants of weapons. I'll defer to the launchers popularity in the actual game as to whether or not many people actually care. It's the CPM elections all over again. 6 people on the forum in a population of 3000 does not a majority make. its that easy to implement a new weapon whos fitting, damage, splash, radius, rarity, and every other factor except for color do not matter to game balance. Wouldn't be hard if math was relied upon. People can knock it as much as they want about making fun of "Things on paper" but it wouldn't take long to establish mathematical balance. They just don't apply any rule set to how things function (IE. scrambler rifles and the TAR do not have remotely comparative stats and there's no good reason why they don't) that just being one example. This game has been a nightmare of kneejerk buff/nerf cycles with no real attempt to just balance by design instead of by Meta. I'd rather the Devs not implement anything right before the holidays (Knowing full well it will probably be buggy) and just go get drunk. I don't want a repeat of 1.7 last year where the devs dropped the vehicle rebalance then went on holiday. We had peaked up to around 4500 active then and nose dived to 1800 and now we still are below that time last year at 3000. Given that they decided to drop more rebalancing like buffing the AR even more I'd rather them focus on making sure it's all hunky dorey and not on a reskin of a weapon not everyone can use anyways. Goodness gracious, sir. Give it up already. A snowball launcher never requires any community feedback and extensive play testing over an entire week to get it right like a traditional mass driver does. Also, because you need community feedback and extensive play testing, relying on math alone is not going to be a guarantee that it will be balanced. Besides, snowball launchers were never meant to be balanced in the first place. IT'S A SNOWBALL LAUNCHER FOR CHRIST SAKE!
All of these critiques were directed at the absurd excuses I responded to. Taking things out of context is rather pointless. But for you and ghost who appear to be challenged in the skill of reading comprehension, i'll break this one down for you. The mathematical balance was addressed towards the notion that it would be hard to implement other weapons that they still haven't implemented variant wise. You two just keep falling back to arguments that have nothing to do with the current defense I was addressing. Use circular logic as hard you two want, but it won't make you sound more intelligent. |
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