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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.17 22:36:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Actually at max skill its 0.45 spool time, but regardless.
You want to triple the base damage with the only downside being a slower projectile? Triple? Last I checked, Allotek Plasma Cannons do 1501.5 damage, not 1000. The ~3000 damage would be the Prototype one. I don't expect the Basic one to do any more than 2500-2600. If there even would be a basic one. There would probably only be ADV and PRO. So it would be about 200% damage. I think that's reasonable. And I'm sure the splash would be reduced, if we see the BrMD and Be Flaylock as examples, but that's not a bid deal to be fair.
Base Damage before modifiers at 3000 per shot and the same RoF as the standard variant?
No. This is poorly balanced and needs more consideration.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 02:10:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Damage per shot can't get too out of hand, primarily because damage modifiers are percentages and thus the amount of bonus damage increases substantially if direct damage increases.I mean at 3000 damage, Proficiency 5 would tack on an additional 450 shield damage...that's insane. And like you pointed out, a dual Gallmando could burst damage 6900 shield damage. Even the Breach Forge is only a 45% increase in damage per shot, with similar overall DPS.
How would you feel about a 50% increase to shot damage with an increase of spool time from 0.6 to 0.9 seconds and increased reload from 3.5 to 4.0. Reduced splash radius and damge, slower projectile.
Allotek PLC (No Skills)
1155 Damage
0.6 Spool + 3.5 Reload = 1 shot every 4.1 seconds
282 DPS
Allotek PLC (Max Skills + Galmmando)
1461 Damage
0.45 Spool + 2.2 Reload = 1 shot every 2.65 seconds
551 DPS
Breach PLC (No Skills)
1755 Damage (52% increase)
0.9 Spool (50% increase) + 4.0 Reload = 1 shot every 4.9 seconds
358 DPS (27% increase)
Slower Projectile
Smaller Splash Radius
Less Splash Damage
Breach PLC (Max Skils + Galmmando)
2220 Damage
0.675 Spool + 2.55 Reload = 1 shot every 3.225 seconds
688 DPS (25% increase)
Slower Projectile
Smaller Splash Radius
Less Splash Damage The Allotek does 1501.5 damage. Protofits hasn't updated it yet... I don't know why, its been that way for months and months now, even since before the velocity buff. The basic Plasma Cannon now does the 1155 damage that the really old Alloteks used to do. And with all those drawbacks, a 50% boost wouldn't be worth it. The slower projectile velocity alone warrants at least a 50% boost... what with all the drawbacks that are rolled up with that single change alone. No.
You are sure about the 1501?
Maybe I should update the blaster thread for better DPS.
Either way the revised breach plasma cannon looks very nice. Could go a little higher in terms of Alpha possibly.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:22:00 -
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I'm confused as to why there is even a projectile speed reduction being considered? The slow rate of fire for the high damage is already fitting with the qualities of breach weapons..... slower projectile speed is not necessary.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.12.18 03:28:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm confused as to why there is even a projectile speed reduction being considered? The slow rate of fire for the high damage is already fitting with the qualities of breach weapons..... slower projectile speed is not necessary. I actually outlined that at the beginning of the OP. I want a Plasma Cannon that has an arc like it used to. 
You could achieve that with the Assault Plasma Cannon. A Multi-shot cannot that is designed to arc over things and have great splash damage.
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