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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:32:00 -
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What we are, and are not:
The Learning Alliance is primarily geared toward new player training Corporations, but is also open to casual Corporations built on a sense of community rather than ambition. While we may occasionally occupy districts for training and holding public events, the Learning Alliance is not a Planetary Conquest Alliance, and will not be participating in empire building.
What we officer:
The point of joining the Learning Alliance would be to join its community. Members are encouraged to create squads and open those squads to Alliance in the Squad Finder so that any Alliance member can log in, open the Squad Finder, and join a squad. Immortal Guides already does this, and adding other Corporations to the Alliance will widen the pool of players in the community so that we can get more squads running. Mics are not required, but they are encouraged, particularly for squad leaders. (Members who continue to play usually buy a mic eventually in order to more fully take part.)
As one of the perks of Learning Alliance membership, your members will receive a Tip-of-the-Day Alliance mail. This is usually an excerpt from one of my Guides, or another guide with permission from the author, but may include patch notes and other useful information. The Tip-of-the-Day is geared toward the many DUST 514 players who never read the forums. It is a way to trickle feed information in-game to players who would not otherwise have access to it. (Delete All, and Mark All As Read options are available to players who are not interested.)
To Apply:
Send an In Game Mail to Renier Gaden or post in this thread if you are interested in joining the Learning Alliance, or simply want to learn more.
If you do not have an EVE Character in your Corporation to make the formal Alliance application on behalf of your Corp, I can provide this service using an EVE Alt. (Please read this Warning from CCP before you trust any EVE character with Control of your Corporation.)
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:32:00 -
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Reserved in case I want to add more information later.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:33:00 -
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Better tor reserve too many posts than not to have reserved enoughGǪ
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
5382
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Posted - 2014.12.10 15:35:00 -
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4 should be enough.... even for me.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.10 18:06:00 -
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You can always join the Learning Alliance while you build your Corp, and then move on to another Alliance when you become PC viable.
Maybe the Learning Alliance can help get small Corp's off the ground.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
5396
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Posted - 2014.12.12 11:58:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:I was looking around for a Alliance, gearing towards a Caldari alliance. Do you know of such an alliance? I find it funny that I am looking for an alliance before any applications come in. Caldari FW is hard to recruit for. Talk to Stupid Bluebarry. He took his Corp out of my Alliance to join the Caldari Militia in EVE, as he does Caldari FW on his EVE character as well as in DUST. Unfortunately he got me to use one of my EVE alts to help his Corp join the Learning Alliance rather than using one of his own alts, and apparently my EVE Alt does not have good standing with Caldari. I guess he will have to put his EVE character in charge of his Corp and grind out some Caldari missions before he will be able to join the Caldari Militia.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.22 17:13:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:o7 Gaden. Should have an app from us. I will be home in about 4 hours. I will accept the application them. After that it will be 24 hours before your Corp becomes part of the Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.22 20:32:00 -
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1913 DfLo wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:1913 DfLo wrote:o7 Gaden. Should have an app from us. I will be home in about 4 hours. I will accept the application them. After that it will be 24 hours before your Corp becomes part of the Alliance. Alright. Sounds good. Too bad we had server issues yesterday. Rattati says they fixed the Server this morning, so we should be good now.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.23 21:53:00 -
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Klaus Heissleir wrote:We don't produce enough ISK so I can't join. I don't know what difference your ISK production makes? It does cost me 2 million a month for each Corp in the Alliance, but that is payed EVE side, so I pay it out of my own pocket. I can't expect DUST Corps to be able to come up with EVE ISK.
As long as you have 5 or more active members who squad up in Alliance chat it is worth the cost to provide my Corp members with people to squad with.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.02 04:12:00 -
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Tonight we had 4 Alliance squads and 1 Public squad in the Squad Finder. Three of the Alliance squads where full 6/6.
We currently have 3 corporations in the Learning Alliance, and another Corp has expressed interest in joining the Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.04 17:27:00 -
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United Star Confederation has joined the Learning Alliance.
I also rewrote the Alliance Policies section in post #2.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.08 15:55:00 -
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TRUE SAVAGES have been accepted into the Alliance. Their membership should be active in 10 hours.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.01.22 16:02:00 -
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LAMBZ 2 THE SLAUGHTER has joined the Learning Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.13 14:58:00 -
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Most of Damaged Beyond Repair have folded into another Corp which is in a PC Alliance. I am not sure if Damaged Beyond Repair is dead, or if it has become a feeder Corp.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.22 21:06:00 -
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Learning Alliance has been active in Minmitar Faction Warfare recently. We had a Que-Sync of 3 squads totaling 16 players at one point today. Had a couple of good games.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:13:00 -
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I was recently asked to address the issue of Spawn Camping in the Alliance. This is the Alliance mail I sent out regarding Spawn Camping:
Quote:Spawn Camping is when instead of destroying a Drop Uplink or hacking a CRU, you wait in ambush to rack up easy kills as the apposing team spawns.
In the DUST 514 community Spawn Camping is considered to be in bad taste. Many veteran players will lose respect for you if you are found to be spawn camping. Veteran players may also have concerns about the effect your spawn camping activities might have on the reputation of your Corp or your Alliance.
It is understandable that many new players fall into spawn camping. The sudden discovery of an easy way to get kills can be quite enticing. Until you have experienced the frustration of Spawn Camping on the receiving end, or read discussions of the problem of Spawn Camping on the Forums, you might not think about the larger implications of what you are doing. Well, now you know.
Spawn Camping was even more of a problem in the early days of DUST, when your character would spawn in and stand their idle for a second or two before your screen even loaded, and then it would take another second to get your bearings and identify threats. When your spawn point was being camped you would be dead before you had even loaded in. This was very frustrating and demoralizing.
CCP has improved the situation somewhat by adding the Spawn Cloak. Now when you spawn in you are cloaked so you have time to fully load in, and if you donGÇÖt move to break the cloak, you will remain cloaked for long enough to do a quick look around before it wears off. (Turning does not break the cloak, moving does.) This gives you a fighting chance against Spawn Campers. However, as soon as you move you decloak, and if you donGÇÖt move you will still decloak after a second. If you have been scanned the chevron will appear above your head even before you decloak. So a Spawn Camper who is ready and waiting for you will still have a considerable advantage, which many consider to be bad sportsmanship.
This does not mean you need to avoid killing people near spawn points. It is often necessary to clear an area before destroying an Uplink or hacking a CRU, and that includes clearing anyone who spawns in while you are there. No one is going to complain much about that. It is when you are still killing people at the spawn point 3 or 4 minutes later, with no attempt to hack or destroy it, that you get labelled a Spawn Camper.
Sometimes you will strategically want to leave the enemy a spawn point (usually a CRU) so you can predict which direction they will attack from and can keep them contained. When using this strategy it is best to pull your defensive perimeter back away from the CRU so that you are not killing them as they spawn. Only kill them at the spawn point if you are moving in to take the spawn point.
Renier Gaden / Fox Gaden / Crash Gaden
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:25:00 -
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Klaus Heissleir wrote:I'm a Caldari Nationalist. I doubt I will fit in. The Learning Alliance is not officially affiliated with any Faction.
However when Que-Syncing as an Alliance everyone involved has to Que for the same faction. Minmitar is the faction that the most people were interested in. (Partly because of Gear. Partly because people in Amarr FW are fairly organized so it is easier to get matches against them.)
If you wanted to setup Que-Syncing for Caldari you would simply need to use a different chat channel for the Que-Sync than the one used for Min FW. There may be other Caldari loyalists in the faction who might want to join you, and you could bring people in from outside the Alliance as well. We had a Caldari FW Corp in the Alliance before. It only left the Alliance because the CEO wanted to join the Caldari Militia EVE side.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.02 13:32:00 -
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Destinys Immortals [DTIOS] has joined the Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.27 12:37:00 -
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One of the Learning Alliance Corporations currently owns a district. Members from all Alliance Corps have been active in helping to defend this district and participating in training matches. A second Alliance Corp is looking into acquiring a district as well, so we can hold training matches within the Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.09 00:16:00 -
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Destinys Immortals now owns a District as well, so the Alliance can run internal training matches.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.14 16:01:00 -
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1st Legion The Dark Angels [1STL] has joined the Learning Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.22 18:20:00 -
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The Learning Alliance now consists of 10 different Corporations.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.25 18:43:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Hey, my Corp is new and needs something like this.
We're looking to get into pc. I'm the ceo and the one who logs on the most. IL send a message in game tonight to start the t.alks Your Corp is a bit on the small side right now, but you should have the name recognition to recruit more. Are all of your members active?
Mail Renier Gaden rather than Fox, as I do the Corp and Alliance management on my EVE character.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.26 11:18:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Name recognition meaning what.
And I sent a message in game just now. Name recognition as in:
- I recognize your name despite having never squaded with you. - People I respect, respect you. - You have achieved Forum Warrior level 2. (Close to 3)
You were a Closed Bata personality, and nostalgia alone should get you some veteran members.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.27 11:53:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:One of our directors may have denied the application by mistake, please send another one and IL accept it personally. No, he hit Accept. There is just one more step to an EVE character changing Corps than there is for a DUST character.
When an EVE character applies to a Corp while still in a Player Corp, even after their application has been accepted, the EVE character still has to hit accept themselves before changing Corps.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.27 16:44:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Oh, OK then. Also I can only be on after midnight, crappy internet That is fine. It just means you will have to leave the Corp in my hands a few more hours. Send Renier a message in game after you make my EVE alt CEO of your Corp, and I will probably be able to put in the Alliance application for you in the morning, and then hand the Corp back over to you.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.04.28 12:51:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Sounds like a plan. I did not count on extended downtime starting before I got up. I will process the Alliance App when I get home from work.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.13 21:19:00 -
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Learning Alliance update:
United Star Confederation has merged into Destinys Immortals.
New Eden's Army and Soul's Glory have left to form a new Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.05.27 22:05:00 -
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The Learning Alliance peaked out around 10 or 11 Corporations, but we are down to 4 now. This would be bad news for most Alliances, but it is good new for us, as we are succeeding in our mandate.
The Learning Alliance serves two purposes: 1)To facilitate training corporations working together. 2)To help small Corps grow big and strong so they can join PC Alliances or stand on their own in PC.
Recently one of our lager Corps merged into Destiny Immortals, another Learning Alliance Corp founded by Immortal Guides graduates. Both corps had owned Districts which they used for PC training. The merger, bolstered by some transfers from Immortal Guides, formed a larger/stronger Corp. They left the Learning Alliance in order to become active in Planetary Conquest. (They could not hostilely take a district under Learning Alliance restrictions.) In this transaction the Learning Alliance lost two Corps, but achieved the second part of our mandate. We are very proud of Destiny Immortals and wish them great success.
Several other Corporations have left the Learning Alliance to join PC Alliances. Others have disbanded to merge into PC active Corps.
Honestly I am surprised at how successful the Learning Alliance has been at helping Corps grow to become PC viable.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.25 14:09:00 -
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The Alliance has been on my back burner for the past two months while I renovated my computer room. With my computer stuck in a back room upstairs during the renovation I was not able to check in on my EVE account regularly to organize things, and much of my time has been spent on the renovation, so I was not playing a lot of DUST either. But the reno should be done in about a week, my Computer will be back where I can check it regularly to deal with Alliance issues and I will have the time to put into recruitment and organizing again.
We have been very successful: Two former Learning Alliance Corps left to join PC Alliances. Two former Learning Alliance Corps disbanded with their member joining an active PC Corp. Two former Learning Alliance Corps merged into one and struck off on their own to become an active PC Corp.
However, training Corps and training Alliances where the members are expected to "graduate" also have to constantly recruit new members to replace the successful members who move on to the next challenge. After 2 months of no recruitment Immortal Guides is the only active Corp left in the Alliance. I will soon have time to devote to this endeavor again and we will start round two.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.27 19:45:00 -
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JKG555 wrote:Sounds interesting I have some questions.
"Immortal Guides is charged 2 million ISK per month for every Corporation in the Learning Alliance. For this reason it is important for us to make sure there are active members in any Learning Alliance Corp. Corporations which go inactive may be removed from the Alliance. We don't want to continue paying for inactive Corps."
I dont know nothing about alliances. Why do you get charged? Is a alliance something that is only created through eve?
How do you contact other people in the alliance(in game) do you have a channel that every one joins or do you just add the other members to your contacts?
Only EVE characters can create or join Alliances, but DUST characters get benefits: 1) Allinace Chanel. Like the Corp channel, but includes everyone in the Alliance. 2) Can open Squads in the Squad Finder to "Alliance". 3) Directors/CEOs can send mail to the Alliance. Makes it easier to organize stuff. There is a separate Alliance mail tab. 4) In PC any EVE character in the Alliance can drop orbitals for any Corp in the Alliance.
Immortal Guides has to pay ISK to fund the Alliance because we are the Primary Corp in the Alliance, due to Renier Gaden (my EVE character who is CEO of Immortal Guides) being the founder of the Learning Alliance. The ISK is paid EVE side. If a member Corp happens to have EVE players, I am happy to take donations to help fund the Alliance, but I don't make Corps contribute. Your contribution is to provide players for my Corp members to squad with.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.28 19:08:00 -
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We require a Corp to have at least 5 active members to be accepted to the Alliance. If your Corp has that, then you can join. Yes, we try to help Corps grow, but a CEO must prove that they can at least get things started.
I believe that once the max member count for a corp is set, it stays the same even if someone with lower Corp skills is set to CEO. I have set several corps to a max member count of 2600 with my EVE Alt when I use him to put in the Alliance application for a Corp.
For an EVE character to drop Orbitals, I suppose it only costs the price of the ammunition, unless some pirate takes him out while doing it, in which case it is far more costly. EVE characters can't drop installation... at least not yet.
There is no way currently to pass ISK from EVE to DUST or visa-verse, although there are people who have ISK in both games which will do an exchange for a fee. But don't wary about that. I don't ask Corps to contribute to Alliance fees.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.29 21:29:00 -
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JKG555 wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:We require a Corp to have at least 5 active members to be accepted to the Alliance. If your Corp has that, then you can join. Yes, we try to help Corps grow, but a CEO must prove that they can at least get things started.
things are started we have 24 members another active player just joined at least 5 other guys ive randomly seen online this week but only 4 that i would call everyday players Ready to go!
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.06.30 11:59:00 -
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JKG555 wrote:is it done? is there anything i need to know?(I did read the first couple of posts on this thread) Is there anyway of seeing the other corps in a alliance? Do you have a alliance channel in game? The application was submitted and accepted, but it takes 24 hours to go through. Some time this evening you will be able to see Alliance chat, and Alliance squads in the Squad Finder.
I will send out a Corp mail with the Alliance Info.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.01 17:43:00 -
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JKG555 wrote:Draconic Presence wrote: We currently hold a district that I would like to get more people involved with defending and pushing other districts. .
I have some questions about PC I know your rules and I know we are no where near being ready to defending our own district but i wanna know what the costs would be i see you can get the basic drone thing for 10 mill what other things do you need to buy and what are there costs im assuming you need a new clone thing every time you attempt a conquest corp roles Terrestrial Combat Officer (TCO) is this a role i give to people i trust to take squads in to the fight. can they start a conquest? Terrestrial Logistics Officer (TLO) can players with this role start a conquest? just wanna make sure i understand what these roles do. 1) You need to move clones into a district to take it, even if no one else has clones in it. Currently the only way to get clones if you don't already have a district is to buy a clone pack.
2) Once you have a district which produces clones, you can use clones from your district to take other districts if they are close.
3) TCO in your Corp can enter your Corp's PC match. If they are squad lead they can take their whole squad in. It is a role that Directors and CEO's can assign.
4) TLO can move clones and buy clone packs, initiating PC battles. Buying Clone packs is the only access they have to the Corp wallet. Again it is a role that a Director or CEO can assign.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
6
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Posted - 2015.07.18 21:05:00 -
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Standby Retaliation, and Brothers Of Eternity have joined the Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:48:00 -
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Brothers Of W.A.R. (CEO is BISHOP CHAINER) has joined the Learning Alliance.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.15 20:16:00 -
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U.S.N.E. Army [USNEA] has joined the Learning Alliance. The CEO is Ash Sabzeh.
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
7
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Posted - 2015.10.05 09:55:00 -
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Chaos Of W.A.R. [RAWOC] has joined the Learning Alliance. CEO is RAZE MOGIS
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides Learning Alliance
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Posted - 2015.11.02 19:58:00 -
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Dust 514 pro ops [PRO65] has joined the Learning Alliance. CEO is amdowns417.
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