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iKILLu osborne
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:36:00 -
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what does it mean for the current meta?
will scouts go back in recession due to the changes or will gal be the only viable one considering it has 4 lows and the largest dampening bonus?
and rare but funny stealth heavy will it become extinct?
will running damps on a medium be a pointless endeavor?
if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2667
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:38:00 -
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RIP EWAR Cal scout.
Dust is there! I was real!
Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
529
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:39:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:what does it mean for the current meta?
will scouts go back in recession due to the changes or will gal be the only viable one considering it has 4 lows and the largest dampening bonus?
and rare but funny stealth heavy will it become extinct?
will running damps on a medium be a pointless endeavor?
I think you'll see less scouts and thus a more balanced battlefield
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
17993
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:43:00 -
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From the way I am looking at how normally players adapt and over come I am going to predict that nothing is going to initially change.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
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iKILLu osborne
Titans of Phoenix
498
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:From the way I am looking at how normally players adapt and over come I am going to predict that nothing is going to initially change.
actually everyone of my fits have changed already in preparation for the changes to come, even bought myself a respec (hoping to god we don't get a free one as a christmas present lol).
and some pretty darn good fits come from my changes, but who's to say the same for others?
if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
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iKILLu osborne
Titans of Phoenix
498
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Posted - 2014.12.08 06:51:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:RIP EWAR Cal scout.
ahh yes my ewar shotty got retired, so i changed him to a speed scout, it is definitely more challenging, even more so when 1.10 drops but my cal scout will persevere
if you shoot me from the redline i will ensure your death will be a swift one
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xavier zor
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
330
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Posted - 2014.12.08 08:59:00 -
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Scouts in general will completely lose their unseen aspect...their unique stealth ability. CCP is nerfing shotgun scout scrubs the wrong way!
1.10 will kill stealthy scouts
time to respec into an assault :D
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axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
401
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Posted - 2014.12.08 12:44:00 -
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If you are running a bricked scout you'll be affected. If you run a scout "as intended" you'll be fine. I assume
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2670
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Posted - 2014.12.08 12:52:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:RIP EWAR Cal scout. ahh yes my ewar shotty got retired, so i changed him to a speed scout, it is definitely more challenging, even more so when 1.10 drops but my cal scout will persevere
Yeah, I went from a counter-scout to a open-area scout "recon" scout.
Now I guess I'm just a 1/2 hp Cal assault (or logi, actually, since they have similar equipment slots and scan stats).
Dust is there! I was real!
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Colossus of Sardia
SWARMYARD
1
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Posted - 2014.12.08 13:20:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:RIP EWAR Cal scout.
what is that EWAR Cal Scout Unicorn you speak off? all cal scouts i face are brick tanked to the max & still stafe like a cheetah on crack :/ |
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
667
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Posted - 2014.12.08 13:50:00 -
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I'm currently working on a minja, I don't think it will impact scouts that play like what scouting should be. All this will change is it will keep players from running around cloaked right next to enemies.
You will have to use the cloak to find advantageous positions and go in for the kill and back out. This is still entirely doable for knives and shotguns.
The only thing the precision changes will really nerf is the scrub lord scouts that camp a corner of a room or cloak and run circles through the enemy team. You won't be able to do that anymore undetected and seriously that never should have been a thing. Cloaks are for getting behind enemy lines and evading tough targets not for bunny hop blasting everyone. These new changes will also make scouts either have to decide to scout or to be assault lights as any e/hp buffing at the cost of speed/EWar pretty much means they won't be sneaking. A welcome change in my opinion. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
467
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Posted - 2014.12.08 14:00:00 -
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"will running damps on a medium be a pointless endeavor?"
doesn't it benefit med frames to run damps and precisions now? |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
669
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Posted - 2014.12.08 14:13:00 -
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hold that wrote:"will running damps on a medium be a pointless endeavor?"
doesn't it benefit med frames to run damps and precisions now?
That's what I was thinking... currently I can avoid detection by newbies in my assault suits just because I have some dampener skill. Putting dampeners and precisions on now though won't allow me to detect/be undetected by scouts so there isn't much point to it. I mean only shotguns on an assault need to get close and passive scans will get worse the further they are away. The only time they should be getting so close is if they are a knive/melee/shotgun assault and if they are said assaults then they should have a lot of kincats to allow them to close in before the passive scan can register with their opponent or his/her brain. The biggest nerf this update will bring is a nerf to players who walk up to players -> Decloak right next to them -> Then proceed to fire. That shouldn't have been a think with how scrubby of behavior that is.
Real scouts will still be able to keep their distance sprinting while cloaked. They can then find a safe area behind the enemy to decloak and then proceed to sprint out while they are unaware and go in for the kill. I see nothing wrong with that. |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
467
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Posted - 2014.12.08 14:39:00 -
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no i mean with the upcoming patch; logis will want a complex damp and a complex precision (2 on a cal logi). |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2487
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Posted - 2014.12.08 15:06:00 -
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I try to shy away from predicting meda until I've had a chance to play with the changes....but it's not looking good for either my Cal or Amarr scouts, or my playstyle of "scanning scout as a force multiplier". |
Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
607
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Posted - 2014.12.08 16:14:00 -
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I plan to shift to a suicide minja with knives. Many will prolly get used to scanning reds and not be as paranoid, checking their back, so I may be able to run in and get a kill and try to get out before the rest give me a dirt look and my minja fall over dead lol
But a well positioned squad, spread out with overlapping percision scans, will be a problem.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
670
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Posted - 2014.12.08 19:02:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:I plan to shift to a suicide minja with knives. Many will prolly get used to scanning reds and not be as paranoid, checking their back, so I may be able to run in and get a kill and try to get out before the rest give me a dirt look and my minja fall over dead lol
But a well positioned squad, spread out with overlapping percision scans, will be a problem.
Which honestly should be true with any one role.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
6151
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Posted - 2014.12.08 19:08:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:what does it mean for the current meta?
will scouts go back in recession due to the changes or will gal be the only viable one considering it has 4 lows and the largest dampening bonus?
and rare but funny stealth heavy will it become extinct?
will running damps on a medium be a pointless endeavor?
What does it mean?Scouts will always be scouts. Even while tanked they are still under 36 db profile and with 40 precision.
So , worst case scenario we will have MORE Tanked Scouts and less ewar scouts.
Logis are now a viable option for E-war since they have more Scan Range than scouts and all of them have at least 3 High slots.
Heavies will still be broken because all the QQ goes towads scouts so no one will pay attention to HMG's killing at 45+ mts.
Etcetc...
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Jack 3enimble
Titans of Phoenix
542
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Posted - 2014.12.09 10:56:00 -
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Colossus of Sardia wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:RIP EWAR Cal scout. what is that EWAR Cal Scout Unicorn you speak off? all cal scouts i face are brick tanked to the max & still stafe like a cheetah on crack :/
You must not play PC then |
pagl1u M
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1032
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Posted - 2014.12.09 11:05:00 -
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Sentinels will reign supreme.... So actually nothing changes
One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
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