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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
387
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:53:00 -
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Major nerf to solo players.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
163
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Posted - 2014.12.06 02:56:00 -
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I solo play and drop links. I agree with this addition to the mechanics. You shouldn't be THAT versatile. However, once implemented maybe they can help players that are not in a squad or perhaps base bandwidth on how many players are in a squad.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
387
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Posted - 2014.12.06 03:02:00 -
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I normally start with logi to get uplinks forward. Commando to AV. Then assault or scout when skies are clear. Normally I have to be a squad by myself, not everyone has the SP to do what I do. I normally carry my domination team. CCP just wants to further the OPness of vet players squading up together and pub stomping. This is silly... |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10417
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Posted - 2014.12.06 04:27:00 -
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RA Drahcir wrote:I normally start with logi to get uplinks forward. Commando to AV. Then assault or scout when skies are clear. Normally I have to be a squad by myself, not everyone has the SP to do what I do. I normally carry my domination team. CCP just wants to further the OPness of vet players squading up together and pub stomping. This is silly...
What you just described right there is one of the reasons why Bandwidth will be implemented. That style of yours have effectively relegated the equipment-oriented Logi suit to nothing more than a disposable Logi suit that practically most other classes like the scout and assault can already do.
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
715
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:02:00 -
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So question, the drop in bandwidth is if you switch out at a supply depot OR are killed and respawn in with a different suit, correct?
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1049
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:02:00 -
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http://dust514.com/game/faq/ wrote:Combat in DUST 514 is tactical and squad-based, and rewards you for playing as a team. If anything, Equipment Bandwidth changes are going to reinforce that statement.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Thokk Nightshade
Montana Militia
715
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:03:00 -
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Also, does anyone know what the bandwidth for uplinks will be? I didn't see it on the overview.
Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10420
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:08:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:So question, the drop in bandwidth is if you switch out at a supply depot OR are killed and respawn in with a different suit, correct?
More like if you respawn in a suit with a lower BW than the one you used to deploy equipment.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
10420
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:09:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:Also, does anyone know what the bandwidth for uplinks will be? I didn't see it on the overview.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nz-J9Hn9KHcx_b3iG1Q9egQMzWm9LUUzeZxZNC-mu-Q/edit#gid=471840307
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1049
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:10:00 -
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Thokk Nightshade wrote:So question, the drop in bandwidth is if you switch out at a supply depot OR are killed and respawn in with a different suit, correct? A bandwidth change will occur if you when you switch out at a supply depot or respawn in a different suit.
For example, if you go from Assault to Logistics, you will be able to lay more equipment.
Another example is if you go from Logistics to Sentinel, all your equipment will disappear.
However, if you switch from one Logistics suit to another (to keep it simple, from Logistics gk.0 to Logistics mk.0), then all the equipment that you laid out as the Gallente will stay. And as long as you don't put out more than equipment than your Logistics mk.0, that equipment will stay.
If you were wondering if your bandwidth switches to 0 momentarily when you switch suits at a Supply Depot or while you are respawning, then that is incorrect and should not happen.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1049
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Posted - 2014.12.06 05:10:00 -
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Also, https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2496628#post2496628.
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
CIO ("Proto Forum Warrior")
Learning Coalition & RTG
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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2014.12.06 23:28:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I normally start with logi to get uplinks forward. Commando to AV. Then assault or scout when skies are clear. Normally I have to be a squad by myself, not everyone has the SP to do what I do. I normally carry my domination team. CCP just wants to further the OPness of vet players squading up together and pub stomping. This is silly... What you just described right there is one of the reasons why Bandwidth will be implemented. That style of yours has effectively relegated the equipment-oriented Logi suit to nothing more than a disposable Logi suit that practically most other classes like the scout and assault can already do.
No.
When you are supportive logi, you have hives, injector, scans, and rep tool. Support logi should not need to lay links, it is more of a scout or link logi. Plus, when you are on a team of MLT and STD, it is usually on the solo vets to run all of the links for those said new players to be cannon fodder.
Sorry my play style is independent and versatile. If there is vehicle spam, I run AV. If there are no links, I lay them out. If no hives are forward, I bring ammo. |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
291
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Posted - 2014.12.07 00:16:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I normally start with logi to get uplinks forward. Commando to AV. Then assault or scout when skies are clear. Normally I have to be a squad by myself, not everyone has the SP to do what I do. I normally carry my domination team. CCP just wants to further the OPness of vet players squading up together and pub stomping. This is silly... What you just described right there is one of the reasons why Bandwidth will be implemented. That style of yours has effectively relegated the equipment-oriented Logi suit to nothing more than a disposable Logi suit that practically most other classes like the scout and assault can already do.
Not to mention the equipment is free half the time since they switch suits very often with out dying.
So all that equipment is on the field at no cost to the player, and they can just run starter or bpo fits and profit WP's.
Don't matter, the EMP strikes would have crippled your WP whoring ways just the same...
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
2545
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Posted - 2014.12.07 00:39:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:RA Drahcir wrote:I normally start with logi to get uplinks forward. Commando to AV. Then assault or scout when skies are clear. Normally I have to be a squad by myself, not everyone has the SP to do what I do. I normally carry my domination team. CCP just wants to further the OPness of vet players squading up together and pub stomping. This is silly... What you just described right there is one of the reasons why Bandwidth will be implemented. That style of yours has effectively relegated the equipment-oriented Logi suit to nothing more than a disposable Logi suit that practically most other classes like the scout and assault can already do.
What you say in this statement sounds amazing in theory and concept.
But in reality?
It's utter bullshit on the battlefield.
Rarely ever in a day of playing DUST in pubs do you think.... Hey? There is way to many uplinks and spawn points.. I would rather have less options....
The rare time that you get to think that there is to many is when you walk into Equipment farms that are sitting in close proximity to supply depots.
This isn't a problem with peoples playstyle in a quoted "Sandbox" like game development atmosphere... It is limiitng a playstyle and a solo persons ability to setup competition points so that they can contribute and participate in pushes and defenses of objectives in Skirmish and Domination match settings.
Limiting equipment use around Supply depots made sense... But mowing down a big chunk of a conrributing play-style to everyday DUST Pub's that help nearly all matches progress and Mercenaries to find quick engagements and competition....
For the sake of a game mechanic... Or some rainbow, sunshine and lolipop scenario where Logi's will thrive and invade the battlefield because the 2-3 uplink's they have on their fit will change the tide of the battlefield!!
Don;t be so gullable...
CCP would have to rethink the way equipment on Logi's work... Not just nerf everyone across the board and call it a fix.
Which is what we all are getting. A Nerf,. With sugar and sprinkles on it.
And again the problem never gets fully addressed. |
TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.07 00:44:00 -
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solo players on the forums have been the bane of this game for too long
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
390
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Posted - 2014.12.07 00:54:00 -
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Do yall even DUST?
Most matches end up being a squad or two of pub stompers VS a team full of MLT and STDs and one or two solo vets. BW just makes pub stomping all the more easier. |
Funkmaster Whale
Whale Pod
2541
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Posted - 2014.12.07 01:14:00 -
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Ok, hold on.
Unless your meaning of "solo player" is "uplink spam then switch to slayer" then yeah, it hurts those players.
I think this is actually a huge buff to solo players because killing uplinks and capturing CRUs actually matters now. Those solo players that are running around in the back lines taking out the hundreds of uplinks that people mercilessly spam as to stagger reinforcements are going to be actually rewarded now because equipment is becoming much more tactical. It depends entirely on Logistics to maintain presence around objectives, and that's how it should be.
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RA Drahcir
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.12.07 07:06:00 -
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Matches are won by uplinks. Every suit that can, should run links and fluxes.
BW is nerfing infantry. Better buff AV so that one AVer can take out vehicles. Otherwise, those missile tanks and dropships are going to go even more unchallenged. It will not be worth losing uplinks to AV. |
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