DUST Search - Is the money going to legion?

Maken Tosch wrote:

John Demonsbane wrote:

Cross Atu wrote:

Omega Nox wrote:

Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this?

I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge.

Cheers,
Cross

EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further.

It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously.

Which is a good thing because then this means Dust 514 is already able to sustain itself thanks to boosters and early-access consumables, BPOs, Jara Kumora, and now (ewwww) respecs. This is completely different from World of Darkness because Dust is at least making money for CCP. WoD didn't even make it to beta testing let alone make a profit.

Honestly, I can't help but feel as if Dust has become a test bed for Project Legion. I bet the only reason Legion hasn't been green lit so far is because CCP is waiting on how it turns out for Dust 514. Makes sense this way. If a map, mechanic, and other features can be optimized and made stable in Dust then that means Legion's PC platform will handle it just fine.

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Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 23	Posted - 2014.12.05 02:49:00 - [1] - Quote Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this?
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 661	Posted - 2014.12.05 02:51:00 - [2] - Quote I don't see why it wouldn't be okay for you to ask that just so you know that CCP isn't going to tell you either way.
Omega Nox Consolidated Dust 23	Posted - 2014.12.05 02:52:00 - [3] - Quote TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote: I don't see why it wouldn't be okay for you to ask that just so you know that CCP isn't going to tell you either way. One can hope Q.Q
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1029	Posted - 2014.12.05 02:53:00 - [4] - Quote We may never know Should Legion be on the ps4?
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 270	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:25:00 - [5] - Quote I hope they're using it for Dust, screw Legion :D G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 161	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:38:00 - [6] - Quote No, the money from DUST BPOs is going to make up for the massive dev deficit CCP accrued last year. Think of it as the game world's equivilent of this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IRS_Tapes:_Who%27ll_Buy_My_Memories%3F I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 1068	Posted - 2014.12.05 03:55:00 - [7] - Quote Would be nice to know, if it was I'd actually spend money on Dust again..
da GAND Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 1029	Posted - 2014.12.05 04:20:00 - [8] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: Would be nice to know, if it was I'd actually spend money on Dust again.. I'd be tempted to spend money on Dust if I knew that the money that they've been making lately was being used to develop Legion, of course it won't be all or probably even most of the money that they are getting that would be spent on Legion. Should Legion be on the ps4?
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 8684	Posted - 2014.12.05 04:26:00 - [9] - Quote It's going into their pockets. CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 4023	Posted - 2014.12.05 04:59:00 - [10] - Quote Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)

Hakyou Brutor Titans of Phoenix 1742	Posted - 2014.12.05 05:03:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: It's going into their pockets. With that being said. I don't see why the Legion couldn't be out on PS4 now besides the fact that you could do more on the PC but you'd lose a lot of your fanbase. They've obviously shown what good they can do on the PS3 now that the old terribad management is out of the way of DUST's development. I want Legion to come out, or I want DUST 514 to survive to become the game we wanted it to be. Either way that won't be possible staying with the PS3. I'm either going to get a PS4 or a New Gaming PC (my gaming Laptop is getting up there) and it mostly depends on what system CCP ports its FPS to. If they abandon everything then I'm pretty much done with gaming. All I play is Single Player RPGs and those alone are not enough to merit buying a new system/rig. If you decide to build a PC hit me up in game, I'll help you pick parts and watch tutorials on how to build it. It's just like legos! Knight Soiaire = my bae
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4825	Posted - 2014.12.05 05:09:00 - [12] - Quote " Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
GLOBAL fils'de RAGE Consolidated Dust 69	Posted - 2014.12.05 10:33:00 - [13] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: " Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously. Patches via the PSN cost CCP nothing. Not a bad troll NOX.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5638	Posted - 2014.12.05 10:39:00 - [14] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: No, the money from DUST BPOs is going to make up for the massive dev deficit CCP accrued last year. Think of it as the game world's equivilent of this: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IRS_Tapes:_Who%27ll_Buy_My_Memories%3F Nice tinfoil hat DUST was just taken off the CCP R&D budget. R&D is always a reported loss. Valkyrie is also part of that loss. Since DUST has been separated (I have been led to understand that our dev team had a lot to do with that) DUST IS ON IT'S OWN BUDGET. Legion is now under the auspices of CCP's R&D slush fund and thusly will accrue a loss in the next tax release. Valkyrie as well. Most of that loss was actually the cannibalizing of the WoD project. So statements like this are misleading. DUST is currently supporting itself. This is why we are getting actual client updates on the roadmap rather than eternal hotfixes. TL;DR: Unless you have an economics degree don't spread this sh*t. It drives people away from the game. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Kain Spero Goonfeet 3927	Posted - 2014.12.05 10:56:00 - [15] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. Seems like it would have made sense to NOT shoot Dust's revenue in the foot by trying to create some new and separate experience on a platform many of the current community don't play on. Legion should be scrapped and plans made to ensure that Dust last beyond the life cycle of the PS3. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and Legion news
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5640	Posted - 2014.12.05 11:01:00 - [16] - Quote Updating DUST to the PS4 would give CCP a LOT of wiggle room. Especially if they can keep the PS3 players in the sandbox so they aren't automatically flushed. If CCP can figure out how to connect EVE to DUST they can bridge the PS3/4 connection gap. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 212	Posted - 2014.12.05 11:42:00 - [17] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Updating DUST to the PS4 would give CCP a LOT of wiggle room. Especially if they can keep the PS3 players in the sandbox so they aren't automatically flushed. If CCP can figure out how to connect EVE to DUST they can bridge the PS3/4 connection gap. My ideal scenario is LEGION on PS4 - and things normally work out the way I want them to... GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Mejt0 Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap 557	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:07:00 - [18] - Quote There are MASSIVE amounts of isks in Dust. Everyone spam the most expensive stuff without consequences. 75% of that isk is from old PC. Hope CCP won't transfer isk/BPO to legion. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Tweaksz Algintal Core Gallente Federation 129	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:27:00 - [19] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: I hope they're using it for Dust, screw Legion :D This. Pill Popping Madness!
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4826	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:45:00 - [20] - Quote GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: " Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously. Patches via the PSN cost CCP nothing. Not a bad troll NOX. I wasn't aware of the "fact" that QA and coding time was free. My bad. (The godfather of tactical logistics)

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5659	Posted - 2014.12.05 14:48:00 - [21] - Quote Sony stopped charging developers for ps3 updates a few months ago since the ps4 is the new hotness. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 10408	Posted - 2014.12.05 16:57:00 - [22] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: " Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously. Which is a good thing because then this means Dust 514 is already able to sustain itself thanks to boosters and early-access consumables, BPOs, Jara Kumora, and now (ewwww) respecs. This is completely different from World of Darkness because Dust is at least making money for CCP. WoD didn't even make it to beta testing let alone make a profit. Honestly, I can't help but feel as if Dust has become a test bed for Project Legion. I bet the only reason Legion hasn't been green lit so far is because CCP is waiting on how it turns out for Dust 514. Makes sense this way. If a map, mechanic, and other features can be optimized and made stable in Dust then that means Legion's PC platform will handle it just fine. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4827	Posted - 2014.12.05 17:27:00 - [23] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: John Demonsbane wrote: " Cross Atu wrote: Omega Nox wrote: Is the revenue made by Dust514 being used to develop project legion for pc? Is it okay for me to even ask this? I am clearly not a Dev, but to the best of my knowledge Dust 514 and Project Legion each have their own separate budge. Cheers, Cross EDIT: This is, as far as I know, a major element in how Dust 514 is able to continue to be patched. Which makes sense really, as long as the game remains 'in the black' it makes sense to continue investment in developing it further. It only makes sense, really. Once people started dropping cash on BPOs again suddenly we get multiple actual patches, which we were told were not possible before... Because they cost money, obviously. Which is a good thing because then this means Dust 514 is already able to sustain itself thanks to boosters and early-access consumables, BPOs, Jara Kumora, and now (ewwww) respecs. This is completely different from World of Darkness because Dust is at least making money for CCP. WoD didn't even make it to beta testing let alone make a profit. Honestly, I can't help but feel as if Dust has become a test bed for Project Legion. I bet the only reason Legion hasn't been green lit so far is because CCP is waiting on how it turns out for Dust 514. Makes sense this way. If a map, mechanic, and other features can be optimized and made stable in Dust then that means Legion's PC platform will handle it just fine. It most likely has. The only surprising (or stupid. depending on your POV on fanfest) thing is that CCP took this long to figure it out and went with a "halt dust development completely to focus on legion" model instead. (The godfather of tactical logistics)


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