DUST Search - Super Assault Suits Need To End

CrotchGrab 360 wrote:

You shouldn't be able to "Assault" with a "Scout" suit, you should scout with a scout suit, meaning you are the one who scans, moves stealthily and relies on CQC and a tactical advantage.

People should not be able to make super assault suits using scouts, strafing faster, moving faster, regenerating faster, being dampened, that's a scout's role. That's the role of a stealthy, CQC player, it's not an assault suit.

Limit scout suits to shotguns as primaries, then people will be forced into their REAL role.

People should also not be able to make super assault suits, tanked out with way more HP than an assault can, whilst having insane rep, I'm talking about light weapons on sentinels and heavies, they should only be able to carry heavy weapons.

People need to stop being able to abuse suits. If we're going to see a real change in the battlefield then the roles need to be specific and an acquired taste.

People may not agree with my proposed changes but you cannot deny that heavies are super tanked assaults and scouts are super fast assaults, they need to be heavies and scouts, not assaults. assault suits need to be assault suits.

We went through the same thing with logis, now logis actually play their role! This is needed if the classes are actually ever going to mean anything!

It's the same as the logi nerfs and assault buffs, it's a leap in the right direction.

Scouts will be rarer, but when you see one, know that person means business and knows their role on the battlefield. I'm sure the true scouts from the before-time are pretty pissed off at how people are spamming and abusing their suit just to make super assault suits.

This is just one man's opinion of course.

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CrotchGrab 360 Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase 1606	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:03:00 - [1] - Quote You shouldn't be able to "Assault" with a "Scout" suit, you should scout with a scout suit, meaning you are the one who scans, moves stealthily and relies on CQC and a tactical advantage. People should not be able to make super assault suits using scouts, strafing faster, moving faster, regenerating faster, being dampened, that's a scout's role. That's the role of a stealthy, CQC player, it's not an assault suit. Limit scout suits to shotguns as primaries, then people will be forced into their REAL role. People should also not be able to make super assault suits, tanked out with way more HP than an assault can, whilst having insane rep, I'm talking about light weapons on sentinels and heavies, they should only be able to carry heavy weapons. People need to stop being able to abuse suits. If we're going to see a real change in the battlefield then the roles need to be specific and an acquired taste. People may not agree with my proposed changes but you cannot deny that heavies are super tanked assaults and scouts are super fast assaults, they need to be heavies and scouts, not assaults. assault suits need to be assault suits. We went through the same thing with logis, now logis actually play their role! This is needed if the classes are actually ever going to mean anything! It's the same as the logi nerfs and assault buffs, it's a leap in the right direction. Scouts will be rarer, but when you see one, know that person means business and knows their role on the battlefield. I'm sure the true scouts from the before-time are pretty pissed off at how people are spamming and abusing their suit just to make super assault suits. This is just one man's opinion of course. DUST VIDEOS
Valor Goat 14	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:04:00 - [2] - Quote Shotgun scouts > Rifles scouts period. Step your gun game up. 1EE7
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 14091	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:06:00 - [3] - Quote We should also nerf Super Commandos. They shouldn't be able to gain more HP, speed, and deal the same (in many cases more) DPS as the Commandos. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2826	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:06:00 - [4] - Quote Heavies are god aweful though with light weapons, with the latest CPU and PG adjustments compared to an actual assault that has that 25% reduction in light weapon fitting and can actually dodge. It helps new players but really screws up veteran players. An Amarrian heavy with a light weapon who tries to tangle with an Amarr assault is going to get wrecked. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 1007	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:08:00 - [5] - Quote Do you hate shotgun scouts? Do you hate sandbox playing? If so, this is the solution for you. Instead, make a more logical analysis. What makes the scout so powerful compared to other suits? Skills and built in regen stats. These leave room for more modules, making it even more powerful. Remove built in skills and lower regen rates would be a more logical solution IMO. Quafe Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2293	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:08:00 - [6] - Quote I think my basic cal assault can tank more then proto cal scout. I just got used to it and killed anyone that got close, its annoying but get used to itcits been like this since 1.8 dropped seriously still talking about it? Sides wait til 1.10 then well see how scouts are. PSN Sil4ntChaozz *I am the Ninja that no one sees and if seen killed with ease* No mic scout. Fight me.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 1032	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:08:00 - [7] - Quote So you're suggesting we limit Dust to 4 types of strict game play? Logi, Assault, Heavy, Scout... Go home. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 1291	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:10:00 - [8] - Quote Aww. Here here. Let a guy get the buckets ready first. TLDR : Last Dust Montage
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 446	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:10:00 - [9] - Quote hell nah, i like my logi sg suits
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 454	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:18:00 - [10] - Quote My only problem with scouts is that I see them doing an Assault suit's job. I see more scouts pushing the frontlines rather than assaults. I want to build a shrine of Rattati and put it in my closet and throw money at it every day

Sev Alcatraz 703	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:46:00 - [11] - Quote If I want to run a shotgun heavy I dam well will and you will not stop me! But yes nerf scout assaults Disgruntled vet
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2261	Posted - 2014.12.03 14:49:00 - [12] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: You shouldn't be able to "Assault" with a "Scout" suit, you should scout with a scout suit, meaning you are the one who scans, moves stealthily and relies on CQC and a tactical advantage. People should not be able to make super assault suits using scouts, strafing faster, moving faster, regenerating faster, being dampened, that's a scout's role. That's the role of a stealthy, CQC player, it's not an assault suit. Limit scout suits to shotguns as primaries, then people will be forced into their REAL role. People should also not be able to make super assault suits, tanked out with way more HP than an assault can, whilst having insane rep, I'm talking about light weapons on sentinels and heavies, they should only be able to carry heavy weapons. People need to stop being able to abuse suits. If we're going to see a real change in the battlefield then the roles need to be specific and an acquired taste. People may not agree with my proposed changes but you cannot deny that heavies are super tanked assaults and scouts are super fast assaults, they need to be heavies and scouts, not assaults. assault suits need to be assault suits. We went through the same thing with logis, now logis actually play their role! This is needed if the classes are actually ever going to mean anything! It's the same as the logi nerfs and assault buffs, it's a leap in the right direction. Scouts will be rarer, but when you see one, know that person means business and knows their role on the battlefield. I'm sure the true scouts from the before-time are pretty pissed off at how people are spamming and abusing their suit just to make super assault suits. This is just one man's opinion of course. too late brosef.. after the 9th medium suits will be king again. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Mobius Wyvern Sky-FIRE 5480	Posted - 2014.12.03 15:25:00 - [13] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: You shouldn't be able to "Assault" with a "Scout" suit, you should scout with a scout suit, meaning you are the one who scans, moves stealthily and relies on CQC and a tactical advantage. People should not be able to make super assault suits using scouts, strafing faster, moving faster, regenerating faster, being dampened, that's a scout's role. That's the role of a stealthy, CQC player, it's not an assault suit. Limit scout suits to shotguns as primaries, then people will be forced into their REAL role. People should also not be able to make super assault suits, tanked out with way more HP than an assault can, whilst having insane rep, I'm talking about light weapons on sentinels and heavies, they should only be able to carry heavy weapons. People need to stop being able to abuse suits. If we're going to see a real change in the battlefield then the roles need to be specific and an acquired taste. People may not agree with my proposed changes but you cannot deny that heavies are super tanked assaults and scouts are super fast assaults, they need to be heavies and scouts, not assaults. assault suits need to be assault suits. We went through the same thing with logis, now logis actually play their role! This is needed if the classes are actually ever going to mean anything! It's the same as the logi nerfs and assault buffs, it's a leap in the right direction. Scouts will be rarer, but when you see one, know that person means business and knows their role on the battlefield. I'm sure the true scouts from the before-time are pretty pissed off at how people are spamming and abusing their suit just to make super assault suits. This is just one man's opinion of course. The game allows fitting variation for a reason. Scout HP was nerfed and now the only problem we have left is how they can evade all forms of detection with minimal effort. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Mahal Daj Mahal Tactical Enterprises 104	Posted - 2014.12.03 15:30:00 - [14] - Quote Wow... I didn't know it was 'let's attack the basic tenants of our eve-legacy" day! Please don't attempt to limit the customization of suits (reference: Eve) Also... "Minimal Effort" is the most active, aggressive, accurate and competent play that we scouts can muster... If you're a lazy scout, you're a dead scout. See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 155	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:03:00 - [15] - Quote Are you kidding? Scouts shouldn't be ninjas either. I curse the day CCP added meduim Gal suits. The Gal Scout suit should have been the only Gal suit. I like bricking a scout suit with an AR and then, get this, scouting? If anything, buff the Assault suit to be better at the one thing it is supposed to doGÇª assaultGÇª with a rifleGÇª and only a rifle. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6067	Posted - 2014.12.03 16:25:00 - [16] - Quote CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4165	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:16:00 - [17] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! I run scouts and even I have to admit it's pretty crazy that a scout can out DPS a sentinel by sitting from 40 meters out with a rifle. Throw in the smaller hitbox and quick strafing and you have the best PC suit, followed up by the sentinel and Logi. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 58	Posted - 2014.12.03 17:34:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! I run scouts and even I have to admit it's pretty crazy that a scout can out DPS a sentinel by sitting from 40 meters out with a rifle. Throw in the smaller hitbox and quick strafing and you have the best PC suit, followed up by the sentinel and Logi. Sadly this is true. But I don't complain cuz I'd rather a suit not get nerfed and be useless.
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 6073	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:19:00 - [19] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! I run scouts and even I have to admit it's pretty crazy that a scout can out DPS a sentinel by sitting from 40 meters out with a rifle. Throw in the smaller hitbox and quick strafing and you have the best PC suit, followed up by the sentinel and Logi. I play all classes now...i know that That Sentinel is stupid. With a BOlt pistol i would 1 shot your scout butt if you start shooting at me at that range..Not to mention HMG do kill easily between 30 and 40 MTs too... (with all due respect since i know you are a respectable player) So quit the QQ BS Amarrian Born. State Patriot.
TechMechMeds KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 6321	Posted - 2014.12.03 18:28:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! I run scouts and even I have to admit it's pretty crazy that a scout can out DPS a sentinel by sitting from 40 meters out with a rifle. Throw in the smaller hitbox and quick strafing and you have the best PC suit, followed up by the sentinel and Logi. I play all classes now...i know that That Sentinel is stupid. With a BOlt pistol i would 1 shot your scout butt if you start shooting at me at that range..Not to mention HMG do kill easily between 30 and 40 MTs too... (with all due respect since i know you are a respectable player) So quit the QQ BS I am QQing about your QQ with codys QQ about your QQ with Crotchgrabs QQ. I am GJRs Renfield.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5371	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:30:00 - [21] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: My only problem with scouts is that I see them doing an Assault suit's job. I see more scouts pushing the frontlines rather than assaults. That's just because they killed all the assault suits. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.
Vitantur Nothus Nos Nothi 929	Posted - 2014.12.03 19:33:00 - [22] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: I'm sure the true scouts from the before-time are pretty pissed off at how people are spamming and abusing their suit just to make super assault suits. This part is true.
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4166	Posted - 2014.12.03 20:30:00 - [23] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: CrotchGrab 360, im getting real tired of your rants against scouts. Super assaults are Assault suits. 900 EHP + OVER 7.2 sprint speed + BOnuses to weapons make assaults the SUPER assaults. Equip a Scanner if you are having so many issues with Tanked scouts. If they are tanked it means they are not dampened enough, you will scan all of them with a proto scanner. Happy hunting! I run scouts and even I have to admit it's pretty crazy that a scout can out DPS a sentinel by sitting from 40 meters out with a rifle. Throw in the smaller hitbox and quick strafing and you have the best PC suit, followed up by the sentinel and Logi. I play all classes now...i know that That Sentinel is stupid. With a BOlt pistol i would 1 shot your scout butt if you start shooting at me at that range..Not to mention HMG do kill easily between 30 and 40 MTs too... (with all due respect since i know you are a respectable player) So quit the QQ BS no disrespect taken. I simply meant that a scout could out DPS a sentinel, nearby talking about kill one. Sentinel is always going to win in a head to head fight. I play all roles as well and I stopped running scout as much simply because of how abused the class has become. In pubs I tend to run assault, but for PC it's a sentinel/scout. Of course I still use a shotgun because I hate using rifles on a light frame but that's neither here nor or there. I'm hoping these new plate/extender changes help prevent all these bricked tanked scouts we see running around so often, if not, then I firmly believe that we should disarm scouts and disable field rifles. They allow scouts to punch too far above there weight class. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 912	Posted - 2014.12.03 21:50:00 - [24] - Quote Why should I be forced to play the game the way you want me to? Why should others? Stop oppressing us with your bad ideas on how to remove variety and fun. The more this game is flattened the more uninteresting it becomes.
TYCHUS MAXWELL The Fun Police 648	Posted - 2014.12.03 22:14:00 - [25] - Quote If they do indeed reduce strafing speed like I've been hearing about that alone will make scout assaults unviable. As it stands though, I'll take a dual tanked minmitar assault any day over an armor tanked gal or shield tanked cal scout. You'll notice that scout assaults often get quickly wrecked if they are having to fight targets from two cardinal directions. They can only strafe against one... the other will be able to set themselves up perpendicular to their strafing. The truly deadly scouts are the stealthy shotgun ones hands down. If you really feel they are giving you grief though then pack some mass drivers...
V1RONXSS X-SENSE Security 21	Posted - 2014.12.03 23:52:00 - [26] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: So you're suggesting we limit Dust to 1 types of strict game play? L¦¦o¦¦g¦¦i¦¦,¦¦ Assault,¦¦ ¦¦H¦¦e¦¦a¦¦v¦¦y¦¦,¦¦ ¦¦S¦¦c¦¦o¦¦u¦¦t¦¦.¦¦.¦¦.¦¦ Go home. The "Chiki Briki v Damki" Starter Pack.


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