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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2014.11.29 10:04:00 -
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I am really enjoying my shaman suit. The basic fit and the unlimited supply has really helped me get back into dust and allowed me to hone my practical skills within the login role. Since I got the suit I have seen a significant improvement in my abilities as well as my score.
Now I'm not much of a killer to start with which is why I find this suit ideal as it is so weak in tank I cannot afford to kill in most occasions which has forced me to adjust my mind set a lot thinking about other things like range or can I effectively repair that guy in front of me to allow him to kill and live, can I needle that guy safely etc without feeling I need to be ready to kill.
In a few weeks or months I know I will be able to use my adv/proto gear again far more effectively than I ever have while maintaining the new skills I have learned.
I think if anyone can embrace the weak or bad fits of any of the apex suits they will become stronger players in their own better gear in the long run which should make for much better battles in the future.
All Hail Legion
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
5525
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Posted - 2014.11.29 11:04:00 -
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Now you know why the only proto fits I usually run are AV fits.
Even then, usually just the gun.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1121
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:00:00 -
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I went with the Shaman suit as well. I had drifted away from logi after the scout buff, just got tired of losing all that ISK. So now I can do a decent job of it in a free suit. Also I wanted to get good with the ACR without having to pay for them to do it. After a few days of practice and a sensitivity adjustment, my proto, glass cannon Mimn commando became a death machine.
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:25:00 -
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1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case? |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1659
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:35:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case?
I was talking about actual skill of me playing the role like knowing when to stay and repair or run away or when I should needle, where and when to drop my uplinks and hives instead of leaving it lying about un used. That is the logistic skills I am honing and its paying off.
All Hail Legion
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:40:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case? I was talking about actual skill of me playing the role like knowing when to stay and repair or run away or when I should needle, where and when to drop my uplinks and hives instead of leaving it lying about un used. That is the logistic skills I am honing and its paying off.
1. Thats nice and all but not the question i asked
2. If your skills that you already have do not work with the suit then its broken, all i want to know is if your skills do work with the suit like it was advertised since ive heard that they dont |
DAAAA BEAST
BEAST EMPIRE
303
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:40:00 -
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I skilled into APEX Shaman Logistics to train as a logi and I am getting better and better. The other reason is that I can make with this free suit 7 million isk in 2 days wich is enough for the whole week.
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Any ISK Donation helps ! :)
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
535
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:46:00 -
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Apex suits are good for players that can't get profit.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Mejt0
Fat'Kids are Hard to Kidnap
535
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:48:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case? I was talking about actual skill of me playing the role like knowing when to stay and repair or run away or when I should needle, where and when to drop my uplinks and hives instead of leaving it lying about un used. That is the logistic skills I am honing and its paying off.
The short live of rep logi. Sit behind sentiniel, hold r1 and listen to the music.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1659
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Posted - 2014.11.29 14:55:00 -
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Apex suits allow you to play the game. Hone your vital role specific skills(not suit skills etc) without worrying about isk loss which for a logistics is vital as without the right logistics mentality and correct use of the role you can easily sustain high losses for very little reward. This suit negates that and lets you just learn and improve so when you do bring out the good gear you are performing at a much higher level.
There are proto's out there who did this by proto stomping off the back of PC funds which is fine but this places all their skill on proto gear. Doing it with the likes of apex gear can only increase your performance as you can play at any level. A lot of proto stompers could not survive out of proto gear.
All Hail Legion
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game RUST415
1659
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:02:00 -
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Lazer Fo Cused wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case? I was talking about actual skill of me playing the role like knowing when to stay and repair or run away or when I should needle, where and when to drop my uplinks and hives instead of leaving it lying about un used. That is the logistic skills I am honing and its paying off. 1. Thats nice and all but not the question i asked 2. If your skills that you already have do not work with the suit then its broken, all i want to know is if your skills do work with the suit like it was advertised since ive heard that they dont
Your level 5 skills are working but on basic gear. A 5% bonus to a 10m range is not a lot and that applies to everything. These suits while affected by skills receive very little from these skills due to the low stats on the items fitted. Besides this is not what the suits are all about.
All Hail Legion
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Lazer Fo Cused
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
145
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Posted - 2014.11.29 15:39:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Lazer Fo Cused wrote:1. I heard that your skills do not work with the suit, like core skills or having minmatar scout to 5, that still the case? I was talking about actual skill of me playing the role like knowing when to stay and repair or run away or when I should needle, where and when to drop my uplinks and hives instead of leaving it lying about un used. That is the logistic skills I am honing and its paying off. 1. Thats nice and all but not the question i asked 2. If your skills that you already have do not work with the suit then its broken, all i want to know is if your skills do work with the suit like it was advertised since ive heard that they dont Your level 5 skills are working but on basic gear. A 5% bonus to a 10m range is not a lot and that applies to everything. These suits while affected by skills receive very little from these skills due to the low stats on the items fitted. Besides this is not what the suits are all about.
1. If you have the APEX or LP version of the minnie scout having hacking and the minnie scout to level 5 gives you a big boost to hacking things, not all skills will be a big benefit such as shield hp since you are using basic shield extenders but it does help
2. I mostly use BPO/Basic in the vast majority of cases unless i need to use proto like links for example |
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