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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2162	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:29:00 - [1] - Quote so.. What The Hell did CCP do to Remote explosives?! firstly.. swapping OUT of RE has been slowed down to a crawl.. secondly Throwing Grenades while having RE selected/equipped has been slowed down stupidly too.. this experience was on a standard scout suit. does this effect other suits at all? also Thirdly.. my MAJOR what the hell is when did this change come in? i saw no proposed changes nor announcements for these changes Nor were they needed... fouthly! you hold RE in right hand.. that shoudl leave left hand for throwing grenades so there should be NO SLOWDOWN TO GRENADE THROWING!!!!!!! so in closeing.. WTH CCP! dont go Ninja Changeing things with out telling the community! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2162	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:01:00 - [2] - Quote mid-downtime bumpage... get your Reply On! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:32:00 - [3] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Its you, was working fine 12 hrs ago... its not me.. this happened like 30 minutes before todays downtime.. where last evening it was working as it always did. i did not see an announcement or anything on F n I forums to even tell the community of this. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 11:47:00 - [4] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: The same slowdown happens with the Cloak when throwing grenades, swapping to a weapon, or other equipment when when the Cloak is not active. Either they added it to the Remote Explosives to weaken the Frisbee Scout or it is a bug. Curious indeed. ill suspect its a bug due to both cloak and RE useing the same wrist datapad animation #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:02:00 - [5] - Quote ca ronic wrote: I always thought it was slow to fire the re. toss it out there and wait forever before you can detonate it. Same thing with uncloaking, takes so long. im not talkign about the 4 second primer on RE its self im reffering to the switching out of RE but also use of Grenades while having RE ready to throw #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:23:00 - [6] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: All I heard was boohoo I can't spam a one hit kill scrub weapon anymore waaa. Now all they need to do is require you to have to place remotes and remove the ability to frisbee them. again your being ignarent. the problem isnt the "fuse" or how many you can throw in a space of time.. the problem is how slow/ time taken to throw grenade when wielding RE and then how slow it is to change FROM RE to main/secondary weapon or to put it more simply.. the animation is slowed down for throwing nades while useing RE AND for switching to a weapon. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:35:00 - [7] - Quote Jack Boost wrote: I tell you - scouts are nerfed to the ground. Respec and take heavy. im a hardcore logi..WINMATAR logi... but i also liek to use RE on my WINMATAR assault for tactical butt-loveing of HAV's or setting traps on points/LAVs #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2163	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:41:00 - [8] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: If you had the cloak selected it seems as if the small delay penalty applies. However from my experience the delay is tiny and insignificant. Learn to time yourself around the pitiful delay. If there is something more then that's CCP`s issue. I have not had the issue you are on about myself. But then I dont tend to use cloak and RE`s.... that's like ultra scrub and I am only mostly scrub. I will endeavour to earn my ultra scrub stripes. i believe in my OP i Clearly Stated i WAS NOT useing cloak on my suit. the similarity is they use the same animation/wrist datapad as cloak and i was wondering if this was a ninja nerf to RE or a bug #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2164	Posted - 2014.11.27 13:23:00 - [9] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: EDIT. not sure if its a bug since RE AND Cloak use the same "wrist pad" so maybe it was unintentional to change RE functionality too? Edit 2. for the plebs out there, im referring to animation speed, not how long till i can detonate the RE and im not talking about cloak only the fact they both use the same wrist datapad/animation so.. What The Hell did CCP do to Remote explosives?! firstly.. swapping OUT of RE has been slowed down to a crawl.. secondly Throwing Grenades while having RE selected/equipped has been slowed down stupidly too.. this experience was on a standard scout suit. does this effect other suits at all? also Thirdly.. my MAJOR what the hell is when did this change come in? i saw no proposed changes nor announcements for these changes Nor were they needed... fouthly! you hold RE in right hand.. that shoudl leave left hand for throwing grenades so there should be NO SLOWDOWN TO GRENADE THROWING!!!!!!! so in closeing.. WTH CCP! dont go Ninja Changeing things with out telling the community! Remote explosives should be "put-on-place" gadgets, not a throwing frisbees. a flat surface with in 2-3meters or vehicles.. but im not talking about frisbee REs or RE use at all.. im talking about when i have the REs ready to place BUT the grenades NOT RE's throw animation is super slow.. and then changing FROM RE to a main/sidearm/equipment is slowed down too #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2165	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:01:00 - [10] - Quote ca ronic wrote: Maybe it is a little slower, not a lot. Not sure I would have noticed if you hadnt mentioned it. its ALOT slower since the last time i used RE.. maybe 3 or 4 days ago #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]

Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2168	Posted - 2014.11.27 14:46:00 - [11] - Quote Bradric Banewolf wrote: Probably ninja nerf?! I caught the cloak change ninja nerf day one, and they haven't ninja'd their aes in and change the bs yet?! Clearly two shotgun shots fired from cloak, and no insta changes have ensued. I keep telling you guys they like it broken! Weapons be OP as ever, and they let it ride for months smh?! thats the thing i was aware of the cloak nerf because they had talked about it.. where as with this seemingly NINJA nerf to RE animation+grenade animation while holding RE was NOT discussed at all #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]**
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2168	Posted - 2014.11.27 15:44:00 - [12] - Quote Killface Hunt wrote: I noticed the increased delay in selecting remotes yesterday when I was running a logi suit, after running scout for most of the day. It confirmed for me that it wasn't just the cloak nerf causing it. I have run RE's since closed beta. Ninja nerf or not, these things don't go unnoticed. ikr? it seems like it was secretly patched in the last week.. or its a bug because cloak and RE use same datapad animation and CCP dun screwed up like normal #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:30:00 - [13] - Quote Killface Hunt wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Killface Hunt wrote: I noticed the increased delay in selecting remotes yesterday when I was running a logi suit, after running scout for most of the day. It confirmed for me that it wasn't just the cloak nerf causing it. I have run RE's since closed beta. Ninja nerf or not, these things don't go unnoticed. ikr? it seems like it was secretly patched in the last week.. or its a bug because cloak and RE use same datapad animation and CCP dun screwed up like normal Yeah, hard to tell if it's a consequence of the two using the same data pad or an intentional nerf due to forum qq. well thats what has be wondering, because there was no recent QQ abotu slowing down RE/grenade animations or even a dev talking about it.. there was ONLY talk about tweeking cloak timers #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:32:00 - [14] - Quote SagaB wrote: Not that hard to tell. The slowed animation only hurts the use of grenades (haven't tested myself) or the swapping to a weapon, not the use of remotes. The deploying of a remote and detonating is still the same. I was in Skirmish holding E (Ashland) using the Republic Tiger Scout. Reds would either go straight for the objective or try to find me. If I set an re on the objective and a red begins to shoot at me, the slow animation hurts my ability to engage. This added delay costs me valuable time when a red engages me with pewpew while another red starts hacking the objective. Working as intended? I think not. i use RE+flux.. set RE, try get both flux on the HAV and then detonate the RE for maximum BOOM!.. so there is less of the -20 explosion on shield and more of the damage going to armor.. so with my useage being like that i really do feel this ninja nerf quite heavly #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:34:00 - [15] - Quote SagaB wrote: Not that hard to tell. The slowed animation only hurts the use of grenades (haven't tested myself) or the swapping to a weapon, not the use of remotes. The deploying of a remote and detonating is still the same. I was in Skirmish holding E (Ashland) using the Republic Tiger Scout. Reds would either go straight for the objective or try to find me. If I set an re on the objective and a red begins to shoot at me, the slow animation hurts my ability to engage. This added delay costs me valuable time when a red engages me with pewpew while another red starts hacking the objective. Working as intended? I think not. yes the deploying and detonateing is the same, but grenade deployment is slowed so is switching from RE to a USEFUL weapon.. because not all of us are Frisbee champions(maximum sarcasm directed at scouts who use RE like main weapons) #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 16:35:00 - [16] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Go to bed Zaki. maybe in about 4 hours or so.. #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 17:31:00 - [17] - Quote SagaB wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: SagaB wrote: Not that hard to tell. The slowed animation only hurts the use of grenades (haven't tested myself) or the swapping to a weapon, not the use of remotes. The deploying of a remote and detonating is still the same. I was in Skirmish holding E (Ashland) using the Republic Tiger Scout. Reds would either go straight for the objective or try to find me. If I set an re on the objective and a red begins to shoot at me, the slow animation hurts my ability to engage. This added delay costs me valuable time when a red engages me with pewpew while another red starts hacking the objective. Working as intended? I think not. yes the deploying and detonateing is the same, but grenade deployment is slowed so is switching from RE to a USEFUL weapon.. because not all of us are Frisbee champions(maximum sarcasm directed at scouts who use RE like main weapons) That's the problem. This "nerf" (more likely a bug) does not hurt these RE spammers, only those who are using other weapons to attack other reds. indeed, id love rarri to get his butt out of bed or w/e time it is in shanghai and address this issue and confirm weather it was intended or a buggy byproduct #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:18:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Happy Violentime wrote: Its you, was working fine 12 hrs ago... It's not, happens to me as well. he was probably a little confused as to the actual problem im trying to get addressed #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2169	Posted - 2014.11.27 18:41:00 - [19] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: Jack Boost wrote: I tell you - scouts are nerfed to the ground. Respec and take heavy. Pfft. Idiot. i agree.. logi is where its at! #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 2183	Posted - 2014.11.28 19:16:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: EDIT. not sure if its a bug since RE AND Cloak use the same "wrist pad" so maybe it was unintentional to change RE functionality too? Edit 2. for the plebs out there, im referring to animation speed, not how long till i can detonate the RE and im not talking about cloak only the fact they both use the same wrist datapad/animation so.. What The Hell did CCP do to Remote explosives?! firstly.. swapping OUT of RE has been slowed down to a crawl.. secondly Throwing Grenades while having RE selected/equipped has been slowed down stupidly too.. this experience was on a standard scout suit. does this effect other suits at all? also Thirdly.. my MAJOR what the hell is when did this change come in? i saw no proposed changes nor announcements for these changes Nor were they needed... fouthly! you hold RE in right hand.. that shoudl leave left hand for throwing grenades so there should be NO SLOWDOWN TO GRENADE THROWING!!!!!!! so in closeing.. WTH CCP! dont go Ninja Changeing things with out telling the community! Sounds like you're mad they nerfed RE spamming. I'm in favor of it. it didnt change RE spamming at all.. all it changed was the animation speed of throwing grenades (NOT RE's) and switching from RE to light/side once your done placing RE.. i AM a little pissed because there was no dev response to this nor an announcement.. it was just a ninja nerf which was NEVER even spoken about #[[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 2 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]