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Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 329	Posted - 2014.11.26 20:47:00 - [1] - Quote I love the plasma cannon, there is only one thing about it right now I'd like to see changed. Make the hitbox for the plasma cannon's projectile bigger. Maybe this could be the Assault Plasma Cannon, lower direct damage, a little bigger blast radius or maybe just a little more blast damage, slightly shorter charge up time, and the projectile itself is bigger so it scores direct hits a little better.
Wilhelm Klingspor DUST University Ivy League 359	Posted - 2014.11.26 23:33:00 - [2] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I love the plasma cannon, there is only one thing about it right now I'd like to see changed. Make the hitbox for the plasma cannon's projectile bigger. Maybe this could be the Assault Plasma Cannon, lower direct damage, a little bigger blast radius or maybe just a little more blast damage, slightly shorter charge up time, and the projectile itself is bigger so it scores direct hits a little better. What do you mean by making the projectile bigger? Plasma cannon is my main tipple now and i do not see a lot wrong with it aside from some obvious hit detection issues ( as illustrated by Ghazbaran ) It requires some skill to use and i would like to keep it that way, no offense. I like the fact that it's a precision weapon now and not an area denial type of thingymejig. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ DON'T PANIC GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 1020	Posted - 2014.11.27 01:12:00 - [3] - Quote If we get variant PLCs, I want an assault variant with multiple rounds in the clip (like 3 or 4) with reduced damage so that two rounds do slightly less damage than one currently does - but the full auto/multi shot thing would make it great for just slamming out some damage and be more forgiving of misses. Not that I need that, the PLC is great fun as is...except when projectiles glitch through people or scouts just dance to ignore the splash. Alt of Halla Murr. Sentinel.
Siegfried Jurah Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2014.11.27 02:34:00 - [4] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: If we get variant PLCs, I want an assault variant with multiple rounds in the clip (like 3 or 4) with reduced damage so that two rounds do slightly less damage than one currently does - but the full auto/multi shot thing would make it great for just slamming out some damage and be more forgiving of misses. Not that I need that, the PLC is great fun as is...except when projectiles glitch through people or scouts just dance to ignore the splash. so you pretty much want another grenade launcher, I can totally understand that but i feel like since this gun is more geared to anti armor nerfing the damage so much wouldn't be very helpful. But if the range on shots was increased like stated above it would feel much better
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 239	Posted - 2014.11.27 10:12:00 - [5] - Quote I agree with the projectile hit box thing, whenever I used the PLC I could swear the hit box was waaay smaller than the projectile.
Haerr Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 2042	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:51:00 - [6] - Quote We also need a Plasma Cannon with a lock-on mode, just like a SWARM launcher! fighter jets
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5382	Posted - 2014.11.27 12:57:00 - [7] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: I agree with the projectile hit box thing, whenever I used the PLC I could swear the hit box was waaay smaller than the projectile. Very likely is. Most of the fire flare effect would somply be particle trail. Actual impact box would be smaller.. Unless they made the hit box a nurb or a sphere. Can't imagine why they'd go that route though. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 330	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:00:00 - [8] - Quote Wilhelm Klingspor wrote: Banjo Robertson wrote: I love the plasma cannon, there is only one thing about it right now I'd like to see changed. Make the hitbox for the plasma cannon's projectile bigger. Maybe this could be the Assault Plasma Cannon, lower direct damage, a little bigger blast radius or maybe just a little more blast damage, slightly shorter charge up time, and the projectile itself is bigger so it scores direct hits a little better. What do you mean by making the projectile bigger? Plasma cannon is my main tipple now and i do not see a lot wrong with it aside from some obvious hit detection issues ( as illustrated by Ghazbaran ) It requires some skill to use and i would like to keep it that way, no offense. I like the fact that it's a precision weapon now and not an area denial type of thingymejig. Well there is a visual render of the plasma cannon round that you see flying though the air, and there is a defined box size within that projectile that needs to impact on a target to count as it hitting. This box is what I refer to as the projectile size. It might be a graphical rendering issue, but when I get up close using the plasma cannon, it sometimes looks like the shot goes right through the person I was aiming at. So either the hit detection of the plasma cannon shot itself needs fixed, or the box, or sphere, or whatever shape is being used inside the image of the plasma cannon round needs to be a bit bigger in order for the game effect to better match the visual representation.
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 332	Posted - 2014.11.29 16:30:00 - [9] - Quote Cmon lets see some more plasma cannon love
Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 108	Posted - 2014.11.29 23:07:00 - [10] - Quote YES. I made this exact same post about idek like 3 months ago. I was using a gal scout with a pc f...ing people with them and that annoyed me. I proposed a bigger hit box, as well as a bigger reticule, somewhat like the mass driver. This would assure that you can actually hit a target because you have better chances of placing the reticule on them. What I got as feed back was that it's an av weapon and blah blah blah. Minmatar-assault combat rifle, flaylock pistol, tanked, quick. Before you know it..........your dead.......

Lightning35 Delta514 48TH SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCE 108	Posted - 2014.11.29 23:08:00 - [11] - Quote I also like the fact that this post is about a gallente weapon and most people that posted under it are gallente lol Minmatar-assault combat rifle, flaylock pistol, tanked, quick. Before you know it..........your dead.......
Kierkegaard Soren THE HANDS OF DEATH RUST415 560	Posted - 2014.11.29 23:32:00 - [12] - Quote Hit detection should fix the problem OP wants to address. All is like to add to the feedback is that after each shot is fired the reload animation puts the gun in front of the aiming sight and, more importantly, obscures your vision of the shot. Range-finding is an important part of using the PLC for those of us who aren't blessed with the ability to land perfect shots on command. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.
KA24DERT TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 861	Posted - 2014.11.30 05:20:00 - [13] - Quote Kierkegaard Soren wrote: Hit detection should fix the problem OP wants to address. All is like to add to the feedback is that after each shot is fired the reload animation puts the gun in front of the aiming sight and, more importantly, obscures your vision of the shot. Range-finding is an important part of using the PLC for those of us who aren't blessed with the ability to land perfect shots on command. Came here to say this. The plasma cannon is fine, problem is hit-detection/netcode/motion prediction. I don't recall watching the projectile fly through still targets, but very often with moving targets. Sometimes I even score a hit on a target i was SURE i missed. Weapon is fine, Netcode is not. BAN ADVANCED GEAR FROM PUBS \| Mass Driver Advocate
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2602	Posted - 2014.11.30 14:22:00 - [14] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: I agree with the projectile hit box thing, whenever I used the PLC I could swear the hit box was waaay smaller than the projectile. It does go through people sometimes even when (according to my screen) the projectile touched the enemy. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4154	Posted - 2014.11.30 22:58:00 - [15] - Quote Yes please. Sometime you can swear that the PLC round is slimer and he's passing through dr.vankmen. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire


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