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doc lowroar
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:09:00 -
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What are the pro's & con's of the two types.
"Wherever you go, there you are" -BB
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
15051
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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:30:00 -
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Shield Variations of Vehicles are statistically superior at the moment.
Firstly the currently suffer no mobility penalties for stacking their racial tank (aka Shields) and have very respectable passive regeneration in a way armour simply does not without even having to fit a module.
Secondly they have access to PG and CPU extenders without having to sacrifice Racial Tank.
Thirdly Shields have better Crisis Control Modules with access to Small Shield Boosters [+950 Shielding] instantly upon activation and Shield Hardeners [40% Shield Resistance Modifier] and a passive 20% resistance against most AV options [kinetic - Forge Guns, Large Rail guns Explosive - Swarm Launcher, AV Grenades, Large Missile Turrets].
Though that is only statistically speaking. Actually pilots should be able to enlighten you to their opinions.
However.......
HARD FACTS
Python
1x Advanced Heavy Shield Extender [+1007 Shielding]
1x Complex Shield Hardener [40% shield resistance modifier]
1x Complex Afterburner [ 150% Airspeed Modifier]
1x Complex PG Extension Unit [+20% PG]
1x XT-1 Missile Launcher
Shield HP: 2555
Shield EHP: 3577 (*1.2 = 3579)
Total HP (unmodified): 4537
You could even sub out the AB for a Shield Booster if you felt comfortable getting into the habit of Booster, Hardener, Escape as that 950 HP is instantly repped and then protected by your 40% modifier ( effectually 1330 Shield HP)
I said, "Empress, I do this, I thought that you knew this.
Can't stand non-believers and honest, the truth is...
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Gabriella Grey
THE HANDS OF DEATH
RUST415
223
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Shield Variations of Vehicles are statistically superior at the moment.
Firstly the currently suffer no mobility penalties for stacking their racial tank (aka Shields) and have very respectable passive regeneration in a way armour simply does not without even having to fit a module.
Secondly they have access to PG and CPU extenders without having to sacrifice Racial Tank.
Thirdly Shields have better Crisis Control Modules with access to Small Shield Boosters [+950 Shielding] instantly upon activation and Shield Hardeners [40% Shield Resistance Modifier] and a passive 20% resistance against most AV options [kinetic - Forge Guns, Large Rail guns Explosive - Swarm Launcher, AV Grenades, Large Missile Turrets].
Though that is only statistically speaking. Actually pilots should be able to enlighten you to their opinions.
However.......
HARD FACTS
Python
1x Advanced Heavy Shield Extender [+1007 Shielding]
1x Complex Shield Hardener [40% shield resistance modifier]
1x Complex Afterburner [ 150% Airspeed Modifier]
1x Complex PG Extension Unit [+20% PG]
1x XT-1 Missile Launcher
Shield HP: 2555
Shield EHP: 3577 (*1.2 = 3579)
Total HP (unmodified): 4537
You could even sub out the AB for a Shield Booster if you felt comfortable getting into the habit of Booster, Hardener, Escape as that 950 HP is instantly repped and then protected by your 40% modifier ( effectually 1330 Shield HP)
Shield variations are only useful when fitted properly to fight against infantry and ground vehicles. Armor dropships are going to be the end all solution to other dropships and HAV's. True Adamance's fitting above is nice, but in my experience adding a light shield extender works much better due to the long down time and unknown possibilities that can happen once your hardener is down. Best to you on the flying! 
Gabriella Grey
"Amarr Ace Pilot"
Saracen Squadron
7th Fleet Division
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1362
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Posted - 2014.11.27 06:41:00 -
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everyone will sit here an tell you caldari but then you have multiple threads of caldari pilots asking for buffs.. if you wanna fumble thru actives and be destroyed by minor collisions, fly caldari..
doesnt matter what choice tho when you meet up with a minmando damaging modding proto SL you will go down.. currently swarms will find you there is no evading them and there is no taking cover they will clip thru all terrain and obstacles, making 180 degree turns.. 2 volleys from a minmando will destroy anything you have fit.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
280
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Posted - 2014.12.02 00:11:00 -
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Ngl you die in just over 3 volleys to a wirykomi swarm launcher no matter what fit you run.
The problem against coordinated av is 1 forge and 3 seconds of swarm firing will guarantee down your ship
So pick both, you don't need the sp into specialised bonuses now that ccp nerfed them anyway
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.05 23:28:00 -
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Triple rep Madrugar is fotm or something. Tanks and ADS are meh atm because swarms are soooo op
If your asking which ads is better its the Python
Pokemon master and Tekken Lord
Give me da iskiez
Gk0 Scout yay :)
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TEBOW BAGGINS
GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING
1390
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Posted - 2014.12.06 00:59:00 -
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sometimes i can out run the 3rd volley of swarms and out rep it in time before it gets to me
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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ishtellian
SAM-MIK
General Tso's Alliance
104
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Posted - 2015.01.19 03:11:00 -
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Missile launcher is the best turret for both Python and Incubus, the python has a very nice bonus to it which the incubus dosnt get.
However the incubus is generally able to fit a better tank for the loss of the RoF bonus the python gets.
I think python with a pro launcher is deadly in the right hands, very experienced pilots will completely destroy infantry and vehicles alike.
But I think for more casual and slightly safer play the incubus would be better.
My Heavy Never Dies.
Logibro In training.
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DarthJT5
Random Gunz
RISE of LEGION
206
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Posted - 2015.01.28 21:40:00 -
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Quit telling people ADS is broken and that it sucks please? As long as you hit the AB when you get hit, you will survive if you time it right. My fit that works for pretty much everything:
Python
ADV Heavy shield extender
Complex Light Booster
Complex Afterburner
PG extender of some sort, depends on skills.
XT-1 Missile Launcher
With this fit, you will never die to a solo AV'er. Ever. When you get hit, activate AB. After the second hit, throw on the booster. The third hit will be the last one(if it even connects) then your out of range. now you wait a total of 30 seconds to let the modules recharge and voila. Kill stuff.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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