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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:15:00 -
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I think the arr is a wee bit op now. Or wither i just love it
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Cheydinhal Guard
Abandoned Privilege
Top Men.
283
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:19:00 -
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You can't be serious...
Be the mercenary of tomorrow, today. Go beyond with Aurum!
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CrotchGrab 360
Yon Hyaku Nijuu Moyase
1530
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:19:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:I think the arr is a wee bit op now. Or wither i just love it
people are spamming it a lot, not as bad as the breach AR though, it never ends 
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4784
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:20:00 -
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You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1163
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:22:00 -
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Cheydinhal Guard wrote:You can't be serious...
I am serious actually i feel like to many people are using it. It may be balanced idk i just like it alot now thats just how i feel sorry you dont feel the same
We fight for the future of the State not our
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1163
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:24:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Forlorn Destrier
Havok Dynasty
3036
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:42:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy
I agree with Joel. State the reason you feel it is OP. Otherwise the thread is a waste.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2325
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Posted - 2014.11.25 22:53:00 -
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As a long time user of the ARR, I tend to agree with Jacques.
However, I'm not so sure it's because it sucked so bad for so long that it feels OP, or if it is really OP.
I've been spending much of my time this week comparing the ARR to the BrAR, and I must say that the jury is still out. The obvious answer is the ARR works better at range and the BrAR up close, but deciding which to use when is quite a bit more complex than that...
That said, there are a few nerfs/buffs in store for the ARR (hipfire buff, ads dispersion nerf), so it's hard to know where this will all end up.
But, for now, I'm liking the ARR too. |
G Felix
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:05:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy
If you want to poll the forums, make a [Survey] thread. The reason Joel and the rest of us are pushing back on this is because these forums are absolutely saturated with demands to nerf this and buff that supported by either purely anecdotal evidence or none at all.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
297
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:06:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:As a long time user of the ARR, I tend to agree with Jacques.
However, I'm not so sure it's because it sucked so bad for so long that it feels OP, or if it is really OP.
I've been spending much of my time this week comparing the ARR to the BrAR, and I must say that the jury is still out. The obvious answer is the ARR works better at range and the BrAR up close, but deciding which to use when is quite a bit more complex than that...
That said, there are a few nerfs/buffs in store for the ARR (hipfire buff, ads dispersion nerf), so it's hard to know where this will all end up.
But, for now, I'm liking the ARR too.
Oh god please stop nerfing the rail rifles! I can barely strip the shields off a Caldari Frontline suit before the recoil has me hitting everything but what I'm looking at, the ARR has alot more recoil then a Breach AR or AR already when will it end!? I'm stuck putting points into Assault Rifle because they already made the Rail Rifle complete garbage.
The State will always survive.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
534
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:08:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:As a long time user of the ARR, I tend to agree with Jacques.
However, I'm not so sure it's because it sucked so bad for so long that it feels OP, or if it is really OP.
I've been spending much of my time this week comparing the ARR to the BrAR, and I must say that the jury is still out. The obvious answer is the ARR works better at range and the BrAR up close, but deciding which to use when is quite a bit more complex than that...
That said, there are a few nerfs/buffs in store for the ARR (hipfire buff, ads dispersion nerf), so it's hard to know where this will all end up.
But, for now, I'm liking the ARR too. Oh god please stop nerfing the rail rifles! I can barely strip the shields off a Caldari Frontline suit before the recoil has me hitting everything but what I'm looking at, the ARR has alot more recoil then a Breach AR or AR already when will it end!? I'm stuck putting points into Assault Rifle because they already made the Rail Rifle complete garbage.
IKR. Back to running Cal Assault with a AR. smh
If you're not wearing proto, you're doing it wrong.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5087
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:12:00 -
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lol, i thought this was another thread about the BAR.
Then I realized what was going on here, and I lol'd.
It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
297
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:12:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:
IKR. Back to running Cal Assault with a AR. smh
Yay for our now useless suit bonuses!
The State will always survive.
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5952
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:15:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:I think the arr is a wee bit op now. Or wither i just love it
Well as a Med range weapon it works perfectly. As a long ranged or CQ weapon it suks bad. So bad i prefer getting stuck in a CQ situation with a Kaalakiota RR...
The ARR is balanced...if not slightly UP...
(looses to Creodon Breach Ar most of the times in med ranges)
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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KING CHECKMATE
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
5952
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:15:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Mike Ox Bigger wrote:
IKR. Back to running Cal Assault with a AR. smh
Yay for our now useless suit bonuses!
What? I pair AR's with BOLT PISTOL. on my Ck.0.
Who said useless...
The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
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Blueprint For Murder
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
408
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:34:00 -
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JC don't worry about it m8 the don't nerf me bro is so bad in this game that It is hard to have any conversations with out these mouth breathers shitting all over it. I have not used it I will give it a go and post back after a few days with it. Until then try to ignore the anti communication people they won't be happy till there are no conversations.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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The Master Race
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
408
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:34:00 -
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JC don't worry about it m8 the don't nerf me bro is so bad in this game that It is hard to have any conversations with out these mouth breathers shitting all over it. I have not used it I will give it a go and post back after a few days with it. Until then try to ignore the anti communication people they won't be happy till there are no conversations.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
297
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:44:00 -
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Everyone should try the Assault Rail Rifle and then compare it to the Breach or Assault Rifle and tell me about how powerful the ARR is.
The State will always survive.
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
1653
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Posted - 2014.11.25 23:45:00 -
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No, I saw you today in pubs... pubs.
Against dumbberries it's gonna be OP
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1163
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Posted - 2014.11.26 00:09:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:No, I saw you today in pubs... pubs.
Against dumbberries it's gonna be OP
Well either way gg bud if i didnt send it before
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Hakyou Brutor
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:07:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:No, I saw you today in pubs... pubs.
Against dumbberries it's gonna be OP Well either way gg bud if i didnt send it before
We were on the same team, 80 man ambush, we cloned them when we had 74 clones left.
Knight Soiaire = my bae
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sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
494
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Posted - 2014.11.26 01:44:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:As a long time user of the ARR, I tend to agree with Jacques.
However, I'm not so sure it's because it sucked so bad for so long that it feels OP, or if it is really OP.
I've been spending much of my time this week comparing the ARR to the BrAR, and I must say that the jury is still out. The obvious answer is the ARR works better at range and the BrAR up close, but deciding which to use when is quite a bit more complex than that...
That said, there are a few nerfs/buffs in store for the ARR (hipfire buff, ads dispersion nerf), so it's hard to know where this will all end up.
But, for now, I'm liking the ARR too. Oh god please stop nerfing the rail rifles! I can barely strip the shields off a Caldari Frontline suit before the recoil has me hitting everything but what I'm looking at, the ARR has alot more recoil then a Breach AR or AR already when will it end!? I'm stuck putting points into Assault Rifle because they already made the Rail Rifle complete garbage.
Bahirae, please calm down. Skill into RR and max it out because I bring joyous news, The RR gets a 25% decrease in charge time (Meaning you can fire in bursts again)
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4792
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:20:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy
As a developer, I know how frustrating these threads can be when you see millions of them. So, yes. I do have to be fancy. |
sir RAVEN WING
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
494
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:28:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy As a developer, I know how frustrating these threads can be when you see millions of them. So, yes. I do have to be fancy.
For what game(s)? I'd love to see how well you balance things compared to how CCP balances things
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the Raider Scout's colour.
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Jacques Cayton II
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1164
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Posted - 2014.11.26 02:34:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy As a developer, I know how frustrating these threads can be when you see millions of them. So, yes. I do have to be fancy.
Oh we got a developer here everyone run to the hills
We fight for the future of the State not our
personal goals
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4792
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:09:00 -
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sir RAVEN WING wrote:Joel II X wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy As a developer, I know how frustrating these threads can be when you see millions of them. So, yes. I do have to be fancy. For what game(s)? I'd love to see how well you balance things compared to how CCP balances things
Maybe one day. |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
4792
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Posted - 2014.11.26 03:10:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:Jacques Cayton II wrote:Joel II X wrote:You know what I hate about Bad OP or Nerf threads? When they don't list reasons as to why it is OP and how it should be fixed, all as constructive feedback, in the proper forum.
Let me show you how it's done:
Can I melt dudes with it? Absolutely.
Can I wreck an AR user within their own optimal? Probably.
What do I think it's going on here? Too much damage for an assault weapon.
Possible Solution? Reduce RoF by a single digit percent not greater than 5 and reduce damage per hit by 1 point.
You dont understand good sir. I was trying find out if anyone else felt the same way you know if it is a wee op or not. You dont have to get so fancy As a developer, I know how frustrating these threads can be when you see millions of them. So, yes. I do have to be fancy. Oh we got a developer here everyone run to the hills
I just know how it feels like to be given feedback when it's not constructive in the least, that's all. |
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