A very neutral question:
Isn't it a 50/50 chance for you to be in a team WITH afkers as well as being in a team WITHOUT afkers?


If the answer is yes, then using isk or stat loss as an argument is invalid.




Try a better argument,
like afkers tend to make the battles not as good.
Even that is not really true as afking effectively means that on average the result is just smaller effective player count per side.

A very neutral question:
Isn't it a 50/50 chance for you to be in a team WITH afkers as well as being in a team WITHOUT afkers?


If the answer is yes, then using isk or stat loss as an argument is invalid.




Try a better argument,
like afkers tend to make the battles not as good.
Even that is not really true as afking effectively means that on average the result is just smaller effective player count per side.

I've been on a side with no afkers against a side with 5. We cloned them by killing the afkers (between 3 of us we killed over 100 mercs). We definitely would have lost otherwise - they held the objective most of the match.

It's not only annoying, but can be game changing.

All players pay for time in battle should go to the regular battle pool which is divided up strictly on WP

Remove passive in battle SP and increase normal passive SP slightly

Make battle payouts 3 SP per WP



AFKing now rewards nothing and newbies can still grow.

What about when you get placed in a match that basically over and you have no chance to gain WP's , like being placed in a match at the end right before the MCC blowing up screen , or when you only have like 3 mins before the match ends and the team your placed on is redlined which gives you no opportunity to gain any WP's ???

I don't like AFKing either but half the time I can understand why this happens when facing stacked opponents and that player is overwhelmed and underequipped but I get placed into the end of matches like a third of my matches and that's not a understatement and the fact that I could get banned for that would be a problem .

BTW, the funny part is that ccp has NOT officially condemned afk farming.


So at the moment there is technically nothing wrong with it.
That doesn't change the thing that is unwanted

Everyone who cares about the game, hates AFK.
It just ruins the match and play for those who are actually playing the game.
Those that fight must fight harder to make up for the lost AFK players, which means they die more , which means they spend more isk/aur, which means they are frustrated more ( this game needs less frustration, not more)

Many proposals have been put forward that may fix the issue, I have one more. Lets list them for CCP to look at and evaluate.

Keep all current features and add to them.
Currently in FC if someone on your team kills you, you can tag them for kick out and once they get tagged by 2-3 people they are kicked out. Why not implement the same for AFK?
Teammates that see an AFK can tag them and once they get 2-3 tags, software looks to see if they have any kills or kills and if they are in any battles moving/giving damage (can't just trust your teammates not to pick on someone), if not then they are banned for24hrs.

2 x ban in a week, suspend account for 2 weeks.

Just a thought, looking for feedback.

simple fix would be player does not receive the end of match payment unless they have 50 war points or more. done. thats it.. it was simple and painless.. and since the afkers will not be getting sp or isk they will stop trying to afk farm.. meaning higher number of active players in a match

That is why we need something that keeps the game fun, by removing afk from matches but does not impact ccp's profit or those that want extra points.

Just think about... CCP runs game for 2 years... and it feels like a beta-test. They did nothing... and not so long ago the sayed that "There is no more major client updates", so yea - THEY CAN'T FIX AFK.