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Sev Alcatraz
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:17:00 -
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So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game
Disgruntled vet
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:19:00 -
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The **** is "leavening"?
Was he using an AScR? Because that thing can fire forever, even when fit to a non-Amarr dropsuit.
My advice to you, playa...
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:21:00 -
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My guess is that he was being careful in his shots and was pushing close to overheat without actually hitting there and/or using the Assault Scrambler.
Sorry to hear that you are not currently enjoying DUST. Like any game, if the Frustration is higher than Enjoyment it is probably a good idea to take a break. DUST will be here if you decide to come back.
Cheers!
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:24:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game he probably hit you with a charged shot first? he probably has better aim and lands more hits?
but tbh the SCR is makeing a comeback and it already feels like Pre-nerf SCR with how powerful it was at killing people
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ghy6tr4
Ganking Police Division
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:25:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:28:00 -
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If you don't like the heat buildup try out the assault version. If you don't like the assault version practice more with counting shots. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to fire the weapon and know when to stop without looking at your heat buildup. I think it's around 18 shots rapidly, I might be wrong, haven't used that weapon in a long time. |
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Sev Alcatraz
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:29:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:My guess is that he was being careful in his shots and was pushing close to overheat without actually hitting there and/or using the Assault Scrambler.
Sorry to hear that you are not currently enjoying DUST. Like any game, if the Frustration is higher than Enjoyment it is probably a good idea to take a break. DUST will be here if you decide to come back.
Cheers!
No it was absolute spam, 1/3 of his shots hit me
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Taskanoss
Imperial Instinct
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:31:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The **** is "leavening"?
Was he using an AScR? Because that thing can fire forever, even when fit to a non-Amarr dropsuit.
This is the point where he leavens
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Slave of MORTE
Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:33:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:My guess is that he was being careful in his shots and was pushing close to overheat without actually hitting there and/or using the Assault Scrambler.
Sorry to hear that you are not currently enjoying DUST. Like any game, if the Frustration is higher than Enjoyment it is probably a good idea to take a break. DUST will be here if you decide to come back.
Cheers! No it was absolute spam, 1/3 of his shots hit me Then it was ascr ..If u havnt used it recently your missing out
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Dauth Jenkins
Tankers United Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:35:00 -
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If you were also using a scrambler rifle, then he had a larger armour buffer, and since armour has a natural resist to energy weapons, he was simply able to out tank you. Also, he may have had proficiency in the rifle, letting him shred your shields in fewer shots, allowing him to get more of his shots into your armour. Lastly, he may have gotten a couple headshot, which give a fairly substantial damage bonus (at least, I think they still do).
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:36:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game he probably hit you with a charged shot first? he probably has better aim and lands more hits? but tbh the SCR is makeing a comeback and it already feels like Pre-nerf SCR with how powerful it was at killing people Well my alt disagrees, running amarr on that one win tee scrambler rifle and with all the armor tanking I find it lacking.
1 charged shot kills Sheilds the. Proceed to put A LOT, didn't count, in his armor and hardly made a dent. When he killed me I saw be still had 500 armor on an assault ![Cry](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_cry.png)
I like my combat rifle better..... Prolly cause that's what I'm used to....
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rithu
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:43:00 -
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were you in a proto amarr assault fully tanked suit? He is a gk0 probably has more than 700 armor. Scrambler rifle does more damage to shields. And u said he is using a laser rifle. That thing doesn't heat like ScR. there is a lot of things that could've got u killed, and instead of whining about it why dont u take revenge? ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) |
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Sev Alcatraz
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:52:00 -
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The kill feed said vizieam scrambler rifle, there were only 2 of us at the point which my team held, the guy was firing the thing like the assault varient and it didn't phase him, I did the same thing back and it killed me,
How does a suit with no bonus to a laser weapon not over heat it?????
It's bull shot and you all know it, what's next? The min assault gets a new suit bonus that removes rail rifle recoil?!?!?
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rithu
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
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Posted - 2014.11.21 15:55:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:The kill feed said vizieam scrambler rifle, there were only 2 of us at the point which my team held, the guy was firing the thing like the assault varient and it didn't phase him, I did the same thing back and it killed me,
How does a suit with no bonus to a laser weapon not over heat it?????
It's bull shot and you all know it, what's next? The min assault gets a new suit bonus that removes rail rifle recoil?!?!? were u in a tanked suit? (~1000 hp?)
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:00:00 -
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I dont know what type of BS is being propagated on the forums these days but the Scrambler rifle is actually MORE powerful than it ever was before.
The reasoning / proof = it can now fire more shots before it over heats than it even did in the past. This obviously benefits the weapon in everyones hands not just coupled with an Amarr Assault.
People will catch on and realise it is again the highest burst dps light weapon and you will no doubt see the modded controller users flock back to it (assuming they ever left it)
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al nize mk2
No Skillz inc.
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The **** is "leavening"?
Was he using an AScR? Because that thing can fire forever, even when fit to a non-Amarr dropsuit.
I believe "leavening" is something you do to bread - so perhaps this dude is a baker of some kind! ![Blink](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_blink.png)
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:30:00 -
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Turbo + the time vs shots fired = over heat... Really only second hand speculation on my part.
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Union118
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:36:00 -
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Sev Alcatraz wrote:So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam scrambler rifle, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game
Turbo controllers reduce the heat build up for lazer rifles and scramblers as well as shorten charge time for weapons.
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LUGMOS
YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:43:00 -
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Union118 wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam scrambler rifle, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game Turbo controllers reduce the heat build up for lazer rifles and scramblers as well as shorten charge time for weapons. Bull. No way is that possible. Especially for laser rifles. And no way it shortens charge time. Dude, are you high???
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.21 16:47:00 -
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How much bread have you made so far?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
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Posted - 2014.11.21 17:31:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Union118 wrote:Sev Alcatraz wrote:So here I am in a fire fight with a GK0 logi with a vizieam scrambler rifle, I'm in a proto amarr assault, he gets the jump on my firing steady like an assault scrbler, so I turn and fore back (at this point he has emptied half his clip with out a brake in fire, I do the same thing back, but instead my gun over heats 20 rounds in and kills me (I have the scrbler rifle completely maxed except prof 5 )
Why is it that this gk0 piece of **** can fire an amarr rifle and not over heat, but when a guy in an amarr suit does it it kills him???
**** this game Turbo controllers reduce the heat build up for lazer rifles and scramblers as well as shorten charge time for weapons. Bull. No way is that possible. Especially for laser rifles. And no way it shortens charge time. Dude, are you high???
Modded controllers or macro mice definitely allow you to fire more shots with the regular ScR. They can also reduce recoil on a lot of rifles.
Can't speak to charge time, I guess you might be able to set something up to constantly precharge at a low level but I would assume that would mess up your movement quite a bit.
LR's, there's no way they could reduce heat build up. It's the worst possible weapon for use with a turbo controller. Maybe you could set a macro to automatically hold the trigger down for the precise amount of time you can fire so that you rarely overheat, but that's it.
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Zindorak
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:28:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:The **** is "leavening"?
Was he using an AScR? Because that thing can fire forever, even when fit to a non-Amarr dropsuit. well it used to unfortunately
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:37:00 -
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Leavening? Are you baking bread![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
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Sev Alcatraz
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:39:00 -
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I just realized the title...I hate the auto correct on my phone...
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:46:00 -
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I have not used turbo myself, but I could see charge/spool time reduction. Like you press the trigger and you get 2 points of charge instantly then it tick every .2-3 seconds so if your trigger activates faster than that, it would charge faster. Again just speculation.
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Sev Alcatraz
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Posted - 2014.11.21 18:59:00 -
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I'm tempted to build a turbo controller to see how broken they are
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.11.21 19:04:00 -
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scrub
CCP holds the Caldari's hand so this doesn't happen again.
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