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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:29:00 -
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Aside from picking at the details, do you think each class should help balance the game.
It's was said before:
Scout hunts heavy; hunted by assault
Assault hunts scouts; hunted by heavy
Heavy hunts assault; hunted by scout
Should this THEORY apply???
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
3142
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:32:00 -
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No, as far as infantry goes there shouldnt be a hard advantage and hard counter ala rock paper scissors
That thinking has plagued this game in one form or another and is part of the still screwed balance issues since CCP and EVE players cant seem to wrap their heads around the idea that what works for ships in space does not work for guys on foot
Granted this issue is far easier to see in weapon balance over suit balance |
Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:38:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:No, as far as infantry goes there shouldnt be a hard advantage and hard counter ala rock paper scissors
That thinking has plagued this game in one form or another and is part of the still screwed balance issues since CCP and EVE players cant seem to wrap their heads around the idea that what works for ships in space does not work for guys on foot
Granted this issue is far easier to see in weapon balance over suit balance
Ok, I was just thinking how nature balances itself and looking at the current scout vs sentienel meta
Where do assaults fit into this?
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abdullah muzaffar
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:52:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Aside from picking at the details, do you think each class should help balance the game.
It's was said before:
Scout hunts heavy; hunted by assault
Assault hunts scouts; hunted by heavy
Heavy hunts assault; hunted by scout
Should this THEORY apply???
you forgot logis being hunted by everone and their mother |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.11.19 19:57:00 -
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I'm not fond of rock-paper-scissors, Team Fortress 2, Ghost Recon Phantoms, a bunch of others don't have it.
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Negative-Feedback
13824
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:08:00 -
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It's a bit more complicated than "Rock, Paper, Scissors" as there are multiple builds for each frameand some suits can do more than one thing. Not only that, but you can't have an RPS setup when there are 5 Different Frames.
For what it's worth however, there are multiple hard and soft counters that each role has against each-other. An example that comes to mind would be how a well positioned Commando is a counter to the Sentinel.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:It's a bit more complicated than "Rock, Paper, Scissors" as there are multiple builds for each frameand some suits can do more than one thing. Not only that, but you can't have an RPS setup when there are 5 Different Frames.
For what it's worth however, there are multiple hard and soft counters that each role has against each-other. An example that comes to mind would be how a well positioned Commando is a counter to the Sentinel.
TL;DR:
Yes, and stuff. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
4998
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:30:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Aside from picking at the details, do you think each class should help balance the game.
It's was said before:
Scout hunts heavy; hunted by assault
Assault hunts scouts; hunted by heavy
Heavy hunts assault; hunted by scout
Should this THEORY apply???
No, because rock paper scissors is stupid, lazy, low level game design.
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Leadfoot10
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2217
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:34:00 -
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I think there should be a certain amount of rock-paper-scissors, but not so much that skill cannot overcome this.
That's a balance that's not easy to maintain. |
Vulpes Dolosus
molon labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2593
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:41:00 -
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No.
Rock, Paper, Scissors should not apply because it takes all the skill and fun out of the game (you win until you meet your counter, then you lose).
Dust should be more like Chess, where each "piece" has its advantages and disadvantages over other pieces and requires teamwork, coordination, and skill above all.
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Bright Steel
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.11.19 20:43:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:I think there should be a certain amount of rock-paper-scissors, but not so much that skill cannot overcome this.
That's a balance that's not easy to maintain.
This is my thoughts exactly
Custom builds will change the out come but as a baseline theory....
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