DUST Search - SP payout still not suitable with 750k cap

Nonoriri ko wrote:

In reply to Stabbey since that tuesday that sp gains changed, ambush is better for sp now.
You can get 5k sp in a 7 minute match.
Usually more like 3kish for trying.

Simply put 40 minutes
40 minute dom = 5ksp
40/7 = 6(36)
6 x 3 = 18k sp (2k sp a match is afk doing nothing numbers, even then 6 x 2 is 12ksp)
These are non booster numbers.

So like you can get 5ksp or 18k sp for the same amount of time.
Even more if you can manage 5k per ambush, not to mention way more isk than dom.
lets say for that one dom 200kisk, but with 6 ambush, thats 150k x 6 = 900k isk

Just my experience but look at the clock yourself, get a paper and pencil and jot down your numbers.
Compare the time and sp from one dom. Then run nonstop ambushes in that time, and compare the two.

Really sad that before you could get 12k sp and 500k isk in one dom, but not anymore.
I used to be the person that liked seeing that big number at the end of a dom.
I loved seeing 500k isk and 12k sp. But after that tuesday numbers changed.
After doing the math, nonstop ambush gives more.

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shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3237	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:29:00 - [1] - Quote First week, was ok, SP payouts were around 7/8k for normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 11/12k for a good match. Second week, SP payout were around 4/5k for a normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 7/8k for a good match. Third week, just like second week. Revert SP payouts to first week level for this unofficial event of 750k cap.
CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2515	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:39:00 - [2] - Quote I really don't understand why they reduced SP per battle numbers down. It's just like you said. Higher the first week and then less now. Hell even the first week with a lot of playtime I only managed to get about half way through the 750k cap. This week I only managed about 100k of the 750k cap because FW has been so slow. "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Banjo Robertson Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 316	Posted - 2014.11.19 13:24:00 - [3] - Quote I wonder if the goal is to have a SP cap that is not easily reached? gives the new guys some motivation to grind more to catch up with higher SP vets.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 524	Posted - 2014.11.19 14:58:00 - [4] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: I really don't understand why they reduced SP per battle numbers down. It's just like you said. Higher the first week and then less now. Hell even the first week with a lot of playtime I only managed to get about half way through the 750k cap. This week I only managed about 100k of the 750k cap because FW has been so slow. Rattati said it wasn't intended at all, but it's still here Take a bow
Lonewolf Heavy Chaotic Company 147	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:14:00 - [5] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I wonder if the goal is to have a SP cap that is not easily reached? gives the new guys some motivation to grind more to catch up with higher SP vets. That honestly seems pretty reasonable. One of my friends just started playing dust. He asked how much Lifetime SP I had and I told him 40m, And he was saying he bets he can reach it because of the 750k a week. The cap being so high is a pretty good motivation for new players to try to reach a competitive level faster. Sentinel/Commando
Aidualc LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo 4	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:41:00 - [6] - Quote 1.8 = 180,000 SP - Week, Gain 7K-15K SP each battle. 1.9 = 720,000 SP - week, Gain 4-9K SP each battle... but maybe if I buy some boosters... i can reach 8-20K SP each battle. Monkey Bussines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4duJdeKTwHY
Mejt0 Hollywood Undead. 513	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:49:00 - [7] - Quote Yup. First and 2nd week of afternoon griding and 300k+ sp left each week. In my opinion 750k with current sp payouts are better than 190k that was for around 2days. This cap should stay, and boosters should make you earn more sp per battle to achive cap faster, not giving additional sp to whole sp pool. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
STABBEY molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 512	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:52:00 - [8] - Quote Guys if you want to hit your cap DO NOT play FW the hours of time you spending waiting to just get in a match right now REALLY sh!tty EVERY1 and there mom is Q'ing for the crappy bpo's. I spammed Dom matches over an over an over and hit cap lastweek I will skip Faction warfare this week to hit cap too^^^ NO ambush is not gonna get you your cap faster than a dom. AMBUSH SPAM= ISK Dom/Skirm= SP Gÿú GÖ¦ Gÿñ Gäó © sç+(¬GÇ+¬)sç+ (-éGîú¦Ç_Gîú¦ü)ßòñ Gû¼Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ-Vet-GòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉGòÉ+¦Gû¼Gû¼ +¬(GùÅ¦«¦âGÇó)¦¦ (GùúGùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ (a+ç'¦Ç-'¦ü)a+ç GöîGê¬GöÉ(Gùú_Gùó)GöîGê¬GöÉ
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4994	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:54:00 - [9] - Quote This whole "We're trying to fix it" thing is becoming less and less believable as time drags on. It's my fault FA exists. Direct your rage to me.
Nonoriri ko Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 10	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:12:00 - [10] - Quote In reply to Stabbey since that tuesday that sp gains changed, ambush is better for sp now. You can get 5k sp in a 7 minute match. Usually more like 3kish for trying. Simply put 40 minutes 40 minute dom = 5ksp 40/7 = 6(36) 6 x 3 = 18k sp (2k sp a match is afk doing nothing numbers, even then 6 x 2 is 12ksp) These are non booster numbers. So like you can get 5ksp or 18k sp for the same amount of time. Even more if you can manage 5k per ambush, not to mention way more isk than dom. lets say for that one dom 200kisk, but with 6 ambush, thats 150k x 6 = 900k isk Just my experience but look at the clock yourself, get a paper and pencil and jot down your numbers. Compare the time and sp from one dom. Then run nonstop ambushes in that time, and compare the two. Really sad that before you could get 12k sp and 500k isk in one dom, but not anymore. I used to be the person that liked seeing that big number at the end of a dom. I loved seeing 500k isk and 12k sp. But after that tuesday numbers changed. After doing the math, nonstop ambush gives more.

Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 4761	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:23:00 - [11] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: Rattati said it wasn't intended at all, but it's still here I am hoping to get an updated answer on the status of this issue soon. CPM1 Elect. Thanks for all your support. [email protected] for ideas, thoughts, and feedback.
Flint Beastgood III Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 935	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:52:00 - [12] - Quote shaman oga wrote: First week, was ok, SP payouts were around 7/8k for normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 11/12k for a good match. Second week, SP payout were around 4/5k for a normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 7/8k for a good match. Third week, just like second week. Revert SP payouts to first week level for this unofficial event of 750k cap. YES, DO IT! Yep
Union118 Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:54:00 - [13] - Quote I noticed I get more sp for sitting in the redline doing nothing than going to battle and killing people. Also sp for doing a battle sucks reguardless if you try or do nothing. Therefor I think you should get more for tring rather than stand around doing nothing. I also would like more sp since cap is impossible for me since I work and have school.
RedPencil Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 134	Posted - 2014.11.19 18:57:00 - [14] - Quote Welcome to the business. "Shot on time shot on skill, purchase AURUM today" Beware Paper cut M[;..;]M
John ShepardIII Capital Acquisitions LLC 1077	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:00:00 - [15] - Quote shaman oga wrote: First week, was ok, SP payouts were around 7/8k for normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 11/12k for a good match. Second week, SP payout were around 4/5k for a normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 7/8k for a good match. Third week, just like second week. Revert SP payouts to first week level for this unofficial event of 750k cap. Are you really complaining??? Just be happy with a higher SP cap The True Shepard Lvl 1 Forum Warrior
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 13823	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:04:00 - [16] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I really don't understand why they reduced SP per battle numbers down. It's just like you said. Higher the first week and then less now. Hell even the first week with a lot of playtime I only managed to get about half way through the 750k cap. This week I only managed about 100k of the 750k cap because FW has been so slow. Rattati said it wasn't intended at all, but it's still here He said it'd be around for 1 month so that the people who purchased 30 Day Boosters don't feel ripped off. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Blueprint For Murder Immortal Guides 338	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:06:00 - [17] - Quote I am just happy I get to gain sp all week instead of 2-3 days yay! The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 329	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:06:00 - [18] - Quote I barely capped out even with the old cap, this new one is just insanity. That moment when you mow down a proto Caldari assault suit with a militia laser rifle. Words can't describe it.
The Master Race Immortal Guides 341	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:06:00 - [19] - Quote I am just happy I get to gain sp all week instead of 2-3 days yay! The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3247	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:13:00 - [20] - Quote John ShepardIII wrote: shaman oga wrote: First week, was ok, SP payouts were around 7/8k for normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 11/12k for a good match. Second week, SP payout were around 4/5k for a normal match (1000wp avg) and going up to 7/8k for a good match. Third week, just like second week. Revert SP payouts to first week level for this unofficial event of 750k cap. Are you really complaining??? Just be happy with a higher SP cap Yes, i'm complaining, it was fine the first week, why have they changed it? Situational awareness commonly called passive scan.

KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1539	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:14:00 - [21] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I wonder if the goal is to have a SP cap that is not easily reached? gives the new guys some motivation to grind more to catch up with higher SP vets. What if the vets, the most dedicated of all, keep on grinding as much - or even more? People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 234	Posted - 2014.11.19 19:18:00 - [22] - Quote LOL, when we have "money bug" It was fixed next DownTime And SP bug is fixing aroud 3rd week, just lol
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 503	Posted - 2014.11.20 05:58:00 - [23] - Quote It may not be working correctly, but at least I can continue earning full SP and not be limited to 1k max after a few days of playing. AKA - StarVenger
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1152	Posted - 2014.11.20 09:39:00 - [24] - Quote They could not double back on the misunderstanding that lead to 750k cap because of booster sales and what not. This way the long term effects of this "event" are negated. Too much tin foil?
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2652	Posted - 2014.11.20 10:22:00 - [25] - Quote Banjo Robertson wrote: I wonder if the goal is to have a SP cap that is not easily reached? gives the new guys some motivation to grind more to catch up with higher SP vets. It is because Rattati left is brain in his car when he was having a meeting with the CPM. They were talking about Triple Boosters and Rattati decided to increase the cap to 750k because he didn't know that Boosters don't accelerate SP and instead give you more. Because of the potential "I bought 3 30 day boosters because of the SP change!", they are keeping it for one month after which they will probably change it. My guess is that 750k stays and Boosters will just make you cap faster. Removes one of the last bit of "paying for power" in DUST and puts it at: * Veterans will play and not care about capping. If they want to push for a specific skill, they can grind it out faster than they could before. * Grinders will grind because they are Grinders. * New Players can catch up faster to that 8 million SP that we say is Proto for a single role by grinding it out or getting Boosters. * It is not expected that everyone will cap out EVERY week unless they work really hard or pay to make it slightly easier. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Stupid Blueberry Hyasyoda Terrestrial Acquisitions Firm 600	Posted - 2014.11.20 11:24:00 - [26] - Quote Nonoriri ko wrote: In reply to Stabbey since that tuesday that sp gains changed, ambush is better for sp now. You can get 5k sp in a 7 minute match. Usually more like 3kish for trying. Simply put 40 minutes 40 minute dom = 5ksp 40/7 = 6(36) 6 x 3 = 18k sp (2k sp a match is afk doing nothing numbers, even then 6 x 2 is 12ksp) These are non booster numbers. So like you can get 5ksp or 18k sp for the same amount of time. Even more if you can manage 5k per ambush, not to mention way more isk than dom. lets say for that one dom 200kisk, but with 6 ambush, thats 150k x 6 = 900k isk Just my experience but look at the clock yourself, get a paper and pencil and jot down your numbers. Compare the time and sp from one dom. Then run nonstop ambushes in that time, and compare the two. Really sad that before you could get 12k sp and 500k isk in one dom, but not anymore. I used to be the person that liked seeing that big number at the end of a dom. I loved seeing 500k isk and 12k sp. But after that tuesday numbers changed. After doing the math, nonstop ambush gives more. Nonoriri-haani is correct. There's a reason you see less of Nyain San in Dom and more in Ambush. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Haajakin Kalen.


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