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DAAAA BEAST BEAST EMPIRE 269	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:21:00 - [1] - Quote Why aren't these used more often ? I almost see none in pubs except from some lone wolf Mk.0 scouts. They are just so useful. I have Min scout to 5 and no skill in codebreakers yet it still looks kinda fast when I am hacking. About 4.5 seconds I would say. Even if my team is losing , I find it's the best way to support them. I bring adv scout with 2 militia codebreakers , 1 precision and 2 basic shields. Proto cloak and R-9 Uplink . This generates alot of WP , believe me. I can hack everything around an objective in about 16 seconds. This gives at least a possibility for my team to spwan on some safe CRU's. After I am done with engineering and electronics to 4 , I'll skill fully into them ! So tell me now , how much time to hack does it take to hack an objective with 3 complex codebreakers on a Min Mk.0 scout ? MY ACTIVE DUST 514 YOUTUBE CHANNEL :)
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 198	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:30:00 - [2] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Why aren't these used more often ? I almost see none in pubs except from some lone wolf Mk.0 scouts. They are just so useful. I have Min scout to 5 and no skill in codebreakers yet it still looks kinda fast when I am hacking. About 4.5 seconds I would say. Even if my team is losing , I find it's the best way to support them. I bring adv scout with 2 militia codebreakers , 1 precision and 2 basic shields. Proto cloak and R-9 Uplink . This generates alot of WP , believe me. I can hack everything around an objective in about 16 seconds. This gives at least a possibility for my team to spwan on some safe CRU's. After I am done with engineering and electronics to 4 , I'll skill fully into them ! So tell me now , how much time to hack does it take to hack an objective with 3 complex codebreakers on a Min Mk.0 scout ? Don't have the details you are looking for - but respect for bringing up the code breakers. I've been thinking they are a "hidden" gem for a while. The more I play 1.9 and read about the downfall of the Scout the more I disagree - I think SCOUT 514 has only just begun... GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1349	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:30:00 - [3] - Quote bc they nerfed the mk suit bonus. That's when I stopped. I loved having 4x Complex breakers on the mk.0, hacking objectives in 2 sec. DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

CommanderBolt KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 2515	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:35:00 - [4] - Quote I have a proto min logi fit with 4x complex codebreakers. I occasionally use it to drive around hacking stuff. Granted its squish as can be and I always eventually die in it but my god its a lot of fun to drive up to a CRU surrounded by reds, sneak in to get the hack, hack in a matter of seconds and then be out again and driving off in the LAV leaving reds like "WTF happened there?" "Also I think knives are a good idea, big f**k-off shiny ones" "Guns for show, Knives for a pro" MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
Francois Sanchez Prima Gallicus 143	Posted - 2014.11.19 12:53:00 - [5] - Quote Minja with two codebreakers needs something like 2.7 seconds, don't fit the third one, it will make a too small difference and eat even more PG on the suit. Put a dampener to have chances to not get scanned before you reach the thing to hack. That fit is insane, it brought us the victory in PC fights as you don't even need to kill the guys protecting the objective, you quietly get in, start hacking and the time the enemies react it's done. Now they have to counter-hack and that's where your team can push them off the point. Also getting on an objective hacked with virus unload nearly complete and still managing to counter-hack it is awesome.
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 199	Posted - 2014.11.19 13:32:00 - [6] - Quote Francois Sanchez wrote: Minja with two codebreakers needs something like 2.7 seconds, don't fit the third one, it will make a too small difference and eat even more PG on the suit. Put a dampener to have chances to not get scanned before you reach the thing to hack. That fit is insane, it brought us the victory in PC fights as you don't even need to kill the guys protecting the objective, you quietly get in, start hacking and the time the enemies react it's done. Now they have to counter-hack and that's where your team can push them off the point. Also getting on an objective hacked with virus unload nearly complete and still managing to counter-hack it is awesome. This is sound advice and a thoroughly entertaining way to play the game. My initial efforts in scouting were all SG related. Once you realise what scouting is all about then the SG goes bye bye and the fun really begins. GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Jebus McKing 1018	Posted - 2014.11.19 14:03:00 - [7] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: bc they nerfed the mk suit bonus. That's when I stopped. I loved having 4x Complex breakers on the mk.0, hacking objectives in 2 sec. Wait, are you talking about the Logi? Min Logi still has a 20% hacking speed bonus. It's just inbuilt into the suit and not a skill anymore. Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1350	Posted - 2014.11.19 14:58:00 - [8] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: ChribbaX wrote: bc they nerfed the mk suit bonus. That's when I stopped. I loved having 4x Complex breakers on the mk.0, hacking objectives in 2 sec. Wait, are you talking about the Logi? Min Logi still has a 20% hacking speed bonus. It's just inbuilt into the suit and not a skill anymore. Unless I totally drunk, I seem to recall CCP making changes in regards to hacking speed bonus essentially getting a nerf. So if you're saying that there's still the same speed then I'm clearly drunk and shall resume using my OP fit to hack speedy as hell... Before I believe we got a bonus for the suit per level, so yeah if it's built in 20% then that's what I'm thinking of - which still became a nerf in regards to speeds vs lv5 skill I think. /c DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Mike Ox Bigger KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 459	Posted - 2014.11.19 14:59:00 - [9] - Quote Jebus McKing wrote: ChribbaX wrote: bc they nerfed the mk suit bonus. That's when I stopped. I loved having 4x Complex breakers on the mk.0, hacking objectives in 2 sec. Wait, are you talking about the Logi? Min Logi still has a 20% hacking speed bonus. It's just inbuilt into the suit and not a skill anymore. Confirmed. Min Logi still a faster hacker :)
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 326	Posted - 2014.11.19 15:08:00 - [10] - Quote I tried code breakers for the first time the other day. Lvl 5 minja and lvl 3 hacker Adv minja with: 2 complex percisions Enhanced extender 2 federation complex code breakers KN SP Flux Advanced cloak RE Got a 1200 WP in skirmish with only 3 kills, and we won! I just made rounds hacking and killing:) The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST

Jebus McKing 1020	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:00:00 - [11] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: Unless I totally drunk, I seem to recall CCP making changes in regards to hacking speed bonus essentially getting a nerf. So if you're saying that there's still the same speed then I'm clearly drunk and shall resume using my OP fit to hack speedy as hell... Before I believe we got a bonus for the suit per level, so yeah if it's built in 20% then that's what I'm thinking of - which still became a nerf in regards to speeds vs lv5 skill I think. /c Yes, before they changed the logi bonuses the MN Logi got a 5% per level hacking speed bonus. And now it has a 1.2x hacking speed modifier inbuilt. So, it got nerfed, but 5% less hack speed isn't too bad of a nerf IMO. In fact, MN Logi has 20% hacking speed bonus on top of its other 2 bonuses. --- What many people also don't seem to know is that AM / CA / GA Scouts and MN Assaults have an inbuilt hacking speed modifier of 1.05x, and the MN Scout even has a modifier of 1.1x on top of its suit bonus. Assault / Logi / Scout / Sentinel // @JebusMcKing G£î
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 502	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:04:00 - [12] - Quote I use them almost every match. Got a cheap fit with 2 complex breakers. Rush to A in dom and usually get in and out before seen. If I get an SG in the back I still had the hack finished and now my team has caught up and can fight to control an already blue objective. AKA - StarVenger
Supernus Gigas The Cooked Goose Coalition 985	Posted - 2014.11.19 16:48:00 - [13] - Quote I've been using 2 Complex Codebreakers on a Assault mk.0 for a while now, running around hacking everything. Does the Min Logi seriously have a built in 20% hacking bonus? I might switch my hacking fit over to that if the difference is significant enough to warrant dropping some eHP, speed and a sidearm. It would allow me to equip more Drop Uplinks than the Assault too, in addition to REs to booby trap objectives. Maybe a Scanner too. Decisions decisions. *FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVING CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!*
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 458	Posted - 2014.11.19 17:52:00 - [14] - Quote Usually start a match with a Gallente Scout BPO with 3 complex codebreakers and level 5 in hacking. Takes roughly 4-5 seconds to hack and 10-12 seconds to counter hack (rough numbers as I usually don't check the time) The Reds usually don't have time to set off the remote explosives before I am long gone
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2389	Posted - 2014.11.19 17:58:00 - [15] - Quote DAAAA BEAST wrote: Why aren't these used more often ? I almost see none in pubs except from some lone wolf Mk.0 scouts. They are just so useful. I have Min scout to 5 and no skill in codebreakers yet it still looks kinda fast when I am hacking. About 4.5 seconds I would say. Even if my team is losing , I find it's the best way to support them. I bring adv scout with 2 militia codebreakers , 1 precision and 2 basic shields. Proto cloak and R-9 Uplink . This generates alot of WP , believe me. I can hack everything around an objective in about 16 seconds. This gives at least a possibility for my team to spwan on some safe CRU's. After I am done with engineering and electronics to 4 , I'll skill fully into them ! So tell me now , how much time to hack does it take to hack an objective with 3 complex codebreakers on a Min Mk.0 scout ? So you have a PRO suit, but don't have your core skills all to 5? lol I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Leadfoot10 molon labe. General Tso's Alliance 2203	Posted - 2014.11.19 18:02:00 - [16] - Quote Codebreakers are underutilized and underappreciated. Fracois hit on the reason why they are so useful -- but they are high risk suits and thus aren't seen very often in pubs.


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