DUST Search - [Proposal] Executions

Operative 1174 Uuali wrote:

Slave of MORTE wrote:

Alaika Arbosa wrote:

@Operative 1174 Uuali
Like a real war? So flanking never occurs in real war? Attacks from the rear never occur in real war? I bet you think we should just line up parallel to one another and fire until we're dead. I guess targeting Squad Leaders is out of the question too isn't it?

@Lloyd Orfay
I articulated forward thinking. Admittedly, this might not be the best addition currently, though with the recent discussion about an Ewar revamp, this could work. It isn't my fault that you are too caught in the moment to think ahead.

@Sev Alcatraz
So you always shoot people from the front? If you come across someone with their back to you, do you send the a mail saying "Turn around and look me in the eye while I kill you"? I can't believe you actually brought up cowardice in a game, seriously? Bad argument is bad.

@Joseph Ridgeson
Thank you for actually presenting a counter argument. I must agree with you that currently, it isn't a good idea, though looking forward with changes to Ewar (which, TBH, is what made me think of this), I do believe that this could have a place and would be utilized by more than just shotgun scouts.

@Slave
<----MinLogi since MinLogi was OnlyLogi, I am a Minmatar purist though so I do have all Minmatar Dropsuits trained. I tend to run MinAssault, MinMando and MinSentinel moreso than I do MinScout, however, my First Love is MinLogi (at least in Dust). As I have already stated, this is no troll, this is something I actually think will have a place once Ewar is hammered out.

I think scouts need to be nerfed in other ways than ewar so I still don't think it's a good idea ..now if they completely removed the ability to brick tank effectively ..then maybe bit still ide rather they not do this

Ooh Lord this thread just went from dumb to dumber. Typical pedant impersonating an intellectual. Move along.

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Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2222	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:19:00 - [1] - Quote I brought this up in another thread and it got a decent reception so I figured I'd open a thread to discuss the possibilities of (as well as any potential pros/cons) what I am referring to as the "Execution Bonus" The idea is thus: If damage is inflicted on someone's back from <3m, that damage gets an "Execution bonus" of +XXX% (originally I had put forward ~150%) virtually guaranteeing a kill. This bonus would be available to anyone and the damage modifier would be applied to damage from any weapon (sans Explosive weapons for simplicity's sake). If you are paying so little attention that you allow me to get within 3m of your back, you deserve to be sent to the respawn. Comments/Questions? Discuss. EDIT: Derp, I thought this was posting in F&I Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 218	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:23:00 - [2] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I brought this up in another thread and it got a decent reception so I figured I'd open a thread to discuss the possibilities of (as well as any potential pros/cons) what I am referring to as the "Execution Bonus" The idea is thus: If damage is inflicted on someone's back from <3m, that damage gets an "Execution bonus" of +XXX% (originally I had put forward ~150%) virtually guaranteeing a kill. This bonus would be available to anyone and the damage modifier would be applied to damage from any weapon (sans Explosive weapons for simplicity's sake). If you are paying so little attention that you allow me to get within 3m of your back, you deserve to be sent to the respawn. Comments/Questions? Discuss. EDIT: Derp, I thought this was posting in F&I 1/10 Fail troll. There is literally no sense for team killing to be possible in any gamemode.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1937	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:25:00 - [3] - Quote smells 100% like "buff scouts/shotguns".. besides the pistols already have a beastly HS multiplier and if you get the chance to get a close range headshot that is basically your "execution bonus" right there... with a bonus 10wp more then a normal non HS kill [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Patrilicus Trash Bucket 68	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:28:00 - [4] - Quote 1/10 poor effort Garbage Day!
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15108	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:30:00 - [5] - Quote At least its not a request for kill animations like I suspected, so there's that Logistics Vehicles Bitter Vet extraordinaire, vehicle specialist, sarcastic prick
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5976	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:39:00 - [6] - Quote No, scouts and heavies spawning behind you are bad enough as it is. Plus if you get behind someone you just drill a few in their skull. Problem solved. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5976	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:40:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: At least its not a request for kill animations like I suspected, so there's that That would be cool. It would never be added, but still the idea is cool. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2222	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:59:00 - [8] - Quote Wow, only two of you could come up with something resembling a counter argument, the rest of you were either off-topic or couldn't articulate something more than the played out "rate the troll post". Why am I not surprised, I am not trolling with this idea. I think that it would encourage situational awareness (since you'd need to worry about more than just snipers and shotgun scouts OHKing you) and that is a good thing. Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 15108	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:09:00 - [9] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: At least its not a request for kill animations like I suspected, so there's that That would be cool. It would never be added, but still the idea is cool. Oh god no. Executions just get you killed during the animation lol. plus, most games force you into third person for them which is the WORST. At least in Skyrim you can mod out the third person kills and mod in more first person ones lol Logistics Vehicles Bitter Vet extraordinaire, vehicle specialist, sarcastic prick
LOADED'HORN KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 122	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:21:00 - [10] - Quote "FINISH HIM!" Riiiiiipp. How about pulling out spines or hearts? No really, being suddenly sniped, shotgunned or RE'd is enough fun for most players I would assume. Open beta vet. (@L@) I see all you cloak scrubs. Game breaking B!T(#E$

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4566	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:24:00 - [11] - Quote Hmmm... take the least enjoyable part of the game and make it easier to do. Need to think about that one... (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Crimson ShieId Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1397	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:30:00 - [12] - Quote As if shotguns don't do enough damage. This might be a halfway decent idea if it wasn't for the fact that Dust's ambient sounds don't work out too well. Hearing someone behind you, even with a decent pair of speakers or headphones, isn't like it is in Battlefield. Not to mention, because of the cloak, sneaking up behind someone is incredibly easy and requires almost no skill compared to what it used to. I want to punch.
CharacterNameWasTaken 240	Posted - 2014.11.18 02:15:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: At least its not a request for kill animations like I suspected, so there's that i belive when you kill a proto suit there should be a cut scene for both people of you teabagging his proto suit like 5 times. That would be the best troll ever. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 334	Posted - 2014.11.18 02:15:00 - [14] - Quote I thought this was about beheading enemies. With a Nova katana or something. Gallente Assault-Caldari Logistics `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp - - Join the LFSquad chat -`
CharacterNameWasTaken 240	Posted - 2014.11.18 02:18:00 - [15] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: At least its not a request for kill animations like I suspected, so there's that That would be cool. It would never be added, but still the idea is cool. Oh god no. Executions just get you killed during the animation lol. plus, most games force you into third person for them which is the WORST. At least in Skyrim you can mod out the third person kills and mod in more first person ones lol if you play in opposites in skyrim you were more likely to get the other veiw. Say i play in 3rd person in skyrim well alot of my executions go into 1st pedson veiw and vice versa thats one aspect i loved about that game. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
CharacterNameWasTaken 240	Posted - 2014.11.18 02:19:00 - [16] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: I thought this was about beheading enemies. With a Nova katana or something. everything stops and you just see a head roll out od a room and lights flickering. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
Operative 1174 Uuali the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 94	Posted - 2014.11.18 03:33:00 - [17] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I brought this up in another thread and it got a decent reception so I figured I'd open a thread to discuss the possibilities of (as well as any potential pros/cons) what I am referring to as the "Execution Bonus" The idea is thus: If damage is inflicted on someone's back from <3m, that damage gets an "Execution bonus" of +XXX% (originally I had put forward ~150%) virtually guaranteeing a kill. This bonus would be available to anyone and the damage modifier would be applied to damage from any weapon (sans Explosive weapons for simplicity's sake). If you are paying so little attention that you allow me to get within 3m of your back, you deserve to be sent to the respawn. Comments/Questions? Discuss. EDIT: Derp, I thought this was posting in F&I In this game? With the restrictions of controllers? With an already 360 degree arena flow? With scouts already a cheap shot that tactic? NO. Let's keep the scrubs in front of us, like a real war. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 220	Posted - 2014.11.18 03:48:00 - [18] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Wow, only two of you could come up with something resembling a counter argument, the rest of you were either off-topic or couldn't articulate something more than the played out "rate the troll post". Why am I not surprised, I am not trolling with this idea. I think that it would encourage situational awareness (since you'd need to worry about more than just snipers and shotgun scouts OHKing you) and that is a good thing. You couldn't articulate common sense. From observation of Ewar on suits and Ewar core skills, this would only push a further group of player hierarchies that will harshly punish any player that hasn't played very long. The rail rifle complaints show how self entitled/ tactically numb players can be here.
Sev Alcatraz 688	Posted - 2014.11.18 05:11:00 - [19] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I brought this up in another thread and it got a decent reception so I figured I'd open a thread to discuss the possibilities of (as well as any potential pros/cons) what I am referring to as the "Execution Bonus" The idea is thus: If damage is inflicted on someone's back from <3m, that damage gets an "Execution bonus" of +XXX% (originally I had put forward ~150%) virtually guaranteeing a kill. This bonus would be available to anyone and the damage modifier would be applied to damage from any weapon (sans Explosive weapons for simplicity's sake). If you are paying so little attention that you allow me to get within 3m of your back, you deserve to be sent to the respawn. Comments/Questions? Discuss. EDIT: Derp, I thought this was posting in F&I This favours shot gun scouts and there cowardly tactics of shooting people on the back, bad idea is bad Disgruntled vet
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2617	Posted - 2014.11.18 05:19:00 - [20] - Quote Currently, one of the strongest playstyles is Scout with a Shotgun. Your change makes that playstyle even stronger given that a shot from behind is pretty much instant death. The game is not fast enough to be a twitch based shooter where getting instantly killed amounts to a 2 or 3 second delay until you can kill someone with the same tactic ala Call of Duty, Titanfall, or Loadout. Getting a flank on the opponent is already enough of an advantage to not warrant an instant kill. I do not agree with the proposal for the above stated reasons. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 83	Posted - 2014.11.18 05:48:00 - [21] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Wow, only two of you could come up with something resembling a counter argument, the rest of you were either off-topic or couldn't articulate something more than the played out "rate the troll post". Why am I not surprised, I am not trolling with this idea. I think that it would encourage situational awareness (since you'd need to worry about more than just snipers and shotgun scouts OHKing you) and that is a good thing. Because scouts that run faster Strafe faster Can become invisible Have the best ewar abilities Have 2 equip slots Can effectively brick tank and be faster than everyone else Bugged hit boxes and can 1-3 shot any suit in dust with ease Do not already cause people to be more paranoid about Their 6. This is a bad troll thread op is a scout user likely looking to make easy mode easier. Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2224	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:29:00 - [22] - Quote @Operative 1174 Uuali Like a real war? So flanking never occurs in real war? Attacks from the rear never occur in real war? I bet you think we should just line up parallel to one another and fire until we're dead. I guess targeting Squad Leaders is out of the question too isn't it? @Lloyd Orfay I articulated forward thinking. Admittedly, this might not be the best addition currently, though with the recent discussion about an Ewar revamp, this could work. It isn't my fault that you are too caught in the moment to think ahead. @Sev Alcatraz So you always shoot people from the front? If you come across someone with their back to you, do you send the a mail saying "Turn around and look me in the eye while I kill you"? I can't believe you actually brought up cowardice in a game, seriously? Bad argument is bad. @Joseph Ridgeson Thank you for actually presenting a counter argument. I must agree with you that currently, it isn't a good idea, though looking forward with changes to Ewar (which, TBH, is what made me think of this), I do believe that this could have a place and would be utilized by more than just shotgun scouts. @Slave <----MinLogi since MinLogi was OnlyLogi, I am a Minmatar purist though so I do have all Minmatar Dropsuits trained. I tend to run MinAssault, MinMando and MinSentinel moreso than I do MinScout, however, my First Love is MinLogi (at least in Dust). As I have already stated, this is no troll, this is something I actually think will have a place once Ewar is hammered out. Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 83	Posted - 2014.11.18 14:57:00 - [23] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: @Operative 1174 Uuali Like a real war? So flanking never occurs in real war? Attacks from the rear never occur in real war? I bet you think we should just line up parallel to one another and fire until we're dead. I guess targeting Squad Leaders is out of the question too isn't it? @Lloyd Orfay I articulated forward thinking. Admittedly, this might not be the best addition currently, though with the recent discussion about an Ewar revamp, this could work. It isn't my fault that you are too caught in the moment to think ahead. @Sev Alcatraz So you always shoot people from the front? If you come across someone with their back to you, do you send the a mail saying "Turn around and look me in the eye while I kill you"? I can't believe you actually brought up cowardice in a game, seriously? Bad argument is bad. @Joseph Ridgeson Thank you for actually presenting a counter argument. I must agree with you that currently, it isn't a good idea, though looking forward with changes to Ewar (which, TBH, is what made me think of this), I do believe that this could have a place and would be utilized by more than just shotgun scouts. @Slave <----MinLogi since MinLogi was OnlyLogi, I am a Minmatar purist though so I do have all Minmatar Dropsuits trained. I tend to run MinAssault, MinMando and MinSentinel moreso than I do MinScout, however, my First Love is MinLogi (at least in Dust). As I have already stated, this is no troll, this is something I actually think will have a place once Ewar is hammered out. I think scouts need to be nerfed in other ways than ewar so I still don't think it's a good idea ..now if they completely removed the ability to brick tank effectively ..then maybe bit still ide rather they not do this Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2224	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:08:00 - [24] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: I think scouts need to be nerfed in other ways than ewar so I still don't think it's a good idea ..now if they completely removed the ability to brick tank effectively ..then maybe bit still ide rather they not do this I agree that Scouts shouldn't be able to brick tank effectively, they should die from being sneezed at and the only tank they should worry about should be Sig Tanking. However, you're missing the point in that Scouts wouldn't be the only ones able to do it. Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2195	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:09:00 - [25] - Quote So, award shotgun scouts even more? lolNo.
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 320	Posted - 2014.11.18 15:11:00 - [26] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: I brought this up in another thread and it got a decent reception so I figured I'd open a thread to discuss the possibilities of (as well as any potential pros/cons) what I am referring to as the "Execution Bonus" The idea is thus: If damage is inflicted on someone's back from <3m, that damage gets an "Execution bonus" of +XXX% (originally I had put forward ~150%) virtually guaranteeing a kill. This bonus would be available to anyone and the damage modifier would be applied to damage from any weapon (sans Explosive weapons for simplicity's sake). If you are paying so little attention that you allow me to get within 3m of your back, you deserve to be sent to the respawn. Comments/Questions? Discuss. EDIT: Derp, I thought this was posting in F&I You are a disgrace for The Matar. Please execute yourself... Dedicated Minmando Masshole with love for Swarmholing...
Operative 1174 Uuali the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 99	Posted - 2014.11.18 22:51:00 - [27] - Quote Slave of MORTE wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: @Operative 1174 Uuali Like a real war? So flanking never occurs in real war? Attacks from the rear never occur in real war? I bet you think we should just line up parallel to one another and fire until we're dead. I guess targeting Squad Leaders is out of the question too isn't it? @Lloyd Orfay I articulated forward thinking. Admittedly, this might not be the best addition currently, though with the recent discussion about an Ewar revamp, this could work. It isn't my fault that you are too caught in the moment to think ahead. @Sev Alcatraz So you always shoot people from the front? If you come across someone with their back to you, do you send the a mail saying "Turn around and look me in the eye while I kill you"? I can't believe you actually brought up cowardice in a game, seriously? Bad argument is bad. @Joseph Ridgeson Thank you for actually presenting a counter argument. I must agree with you that currently, it isn't a good idea, though looking forward with changes to Ewar (which, TBH, is what made me think of this), I do believe that this could have a place and would be utilized by more than just shotgun scouts. @Slave <----MinLogi since MinLogi was OnlyLogi, I am a Minmatar purist though so I do have all Minmatar Dropsuits trained. I tend to run MinAssault, MinMando and MinSentinel moreso than I do MinScout, however, my First Love is MinLogi (at least in Dust). As I have already stated, this is no troll, this is something I actually think will have a place once Ewar is hammered out. I think scouts need to be nerfed in other ways than ewar so I still don't think it's a good idea ..now if they completely removed the ability to brick tank effectively ..then maybe bit still ide rather they not do this Ooh Lord this thread just went from dumb to dumber. Typical pedant impersonating an intellectual. Move along. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. 2224	Posted - 2014.11.18 22:57:00 - [28] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Slave of MORTE wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: @Operative 1174 Uuali Like a real war? So flanking never occurs in real war? Attacks from the rear never occur in real war? I bet you think we should just line up parallel to one another and fire until we're dead. I guess targeting Squad Leaders is out of the question too isn't it? @Lloyd Orfay I articulated forward thinking. Admittedly, this might not be the best addition currently, though with the recent discussion about an Ewar revamp, this could work. It isn't my fault that you are too caught in the moment to think ahead. @Sev Alcatraz So you always shoot people from the front? If you come across someone with their back to you, do you send the a mail saying "Turn around and look me in the eye while I kill you"? I can't believe you actually brought up cowardice in a game, seriously? Bad argument is bad. @Joseph Ridgeson Thank you for actually presenting a counter argument. I must agree with you that currently, it isn't a good idea, though looking forward with changes to Ewar (which, TBH, is what made me think of this), I do believe that this could have a place and would be utilized by more than just shotgun scouts. @Slave <----MinLogi since MinLogi was OnlyLogi, I am a Minmatar purist though so I do have all Minmatar Dropsuits trained. I tend to run MinAssault, MinMando and MinSentinel moreso than I do MinScout, however, my First Love is MinLogi (at least in Dust). As I have already stated, this is no troll, this is something I actually think will have a place once Ewar is hammered out. I think scouts need to be nerfed in other ways than ewar so I still don't think it's a good idea ..now if they completely removed the ability to brick tank effectively ..then maybe bit still ide rather they not do this Ooh Lord this thread just went from dumb to dumber. Typical pedant impersonating an intellectual. Move along. Can't counter it so you just ad hom? typical Gò¡Gê¬Gò«(Gùú_Gùó)Gò¡Gê¬Gò«


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