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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:43:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout?
Range and awareness
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:49:00 -
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Echo 1991 wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness You can't see behind you. You know they wont run at you head on.
Let me rephrase that Range and Awareness
Or scanners, scanners help too!
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.17 16:51:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:there is no counter to real scouts
dedicated damp suits have better BASE scan profile than dedicated suits have BASE scan precision
AND
damps are stronger than precision enhancers
math wins here. binary mechanic ftl.
Oh, but wait if you happen to shoot one he's either going to charge (10% - 90% chance) or run (1% - 80%) or run
So yeah stay at range and stay alert
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:53:00 -
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Vesta Opalus wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Whats the counter to a shotgun scout? Range and awareness Another ****** who thinks its even possible to have 24/7 360 degree perfect awareness, because thats what it takes to stop a guy from getting behind you when he can see every move you make, is invisible, and is much faster than you. And thats just against one scout. The problem spirals out of control very quickly when you add in any other threats and especially any other scouts with the same advantages as the first guy. Oh god then later in the thread he actually suggests you use scans to find these scouts. Fun fact: ANY SCOUT can fit themselves to avoid ANY SCAN IN THIS GAME, yes this includes the gal logi with the best proto scanner available.
Not true, My scout can't fit himself to avoid scan no matter what I do.
Recently I played a game where I was attacked by a squad of scouts, I killed 4 of the 6 before one used a BP.
Guess how many had cloaks... 5 they all were running at me cloaked and I was when I turned around I saw them. I had been aware and almost killed a whole squad... I was using a ACR.
Do not come call me a ****** just because I said to stay aware, I know it's not possible sometimes, but 80% of the time it is possible!
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.17 22:54:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:deezy dabest wrote:What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout? Depends. But a heavy being repped by a min logi would obviously have an advantage. 
Answer, Boundless RE frisbee
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Posted - 2014.11.18 02:35:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:deezy dabest wrote:What is the counter to a proto sentinel being repped by a proto amarr scout? Depends. But a heavy being repped by a min logi would obviously have an advantage. Answer, Boundless RE frisbee i can vouch for this method.. i am a logi and i have been subject to this quite a few times.
They would kill the heavy and 3 logis or logiscouts...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:05:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Jack McReady wrote:there is no counter to real scouts
dedicated damp suits have better BASE scan profile than dedicated suits have BASE scan precision
AND
damps are stronger than precision enhancers
math wins here. binary mechanic ftl.
Oh, but wait if you happen to shoot one he's either going to charge (10% - 90% chance) or run (1% - 80%) or run So yeah stay at range and stay alert Maxed Gal Logi with duvolle focused scanner will NOT pick up a 4x damped scout.
I said shoot, as in using ammunition to hit the enemy and make them shine like a star before they burn like a star...
There is one way to pick up a 4 damp scout for a few seconds I believe. Just stay alert and stop complaining.
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:23:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:You do know that there's a bug where shooting a cloaked scout will completely remove the shimmering effect, right? Also, that's beside the point, which is that you can't beat damps. "Stay aware" You say. You can only devote so much attention to the scout that may or may not be there before the assault that IS there blows your face off because you were staring at empty space.
Do you just want to complain? Focus on the assault and if you get killed oh well.
Here is a how I act when playing Dust.
Get killed - it's my fault for letting them kill me
Scout instablaps me - My fault
Proto Heavy with wall of logis kill me - my fault for being stupid enough to engage.
I kill someone else - their fault they died.
Accidental suicide - My fault for a terrible locus throw
Stole a kill - Not really my fault as I was just trying the help a guy out.
Spawnkilled - My fault for spawning there
Trapped by HAV - my fault for not seeing that thing come up and trap me.
RE frisbee kills me - My fault for not getting away fast enough
I wish more people acted like this...
"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:37:00 -
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How about we competely remove all scouts users, all cloaks, the scout fits which were here since the start, oh and the shotgun, but don't forget the REs! They need to be removed too! Oh no I was killed by a guy using a certain gun, remove it!
Sooner or later the whole game will be us sitting down at a table debating New Eden's politics without any threats allowed... do you wish this?
/rant over
Look guys we can nerf nerf nerf until you guys are the most powerful F*ckers in the game or we could just try to balance it and get the devs on new content, but nerfing everything over and over again is not going to get rid of a problem.
"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:42:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:NEW CONTENTt, Are you smoking crack?
No.
Do you know how to spell? I put 'content' not 'CONTENTt'
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:49:00 -
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Stupid Blueberry wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:Stupid Blueberry wrote:sir RAVEN WING wrote:NEW CONTENTt, Are you smoking crack? No. Do you know how to spell? I put 'content' not 'CONTENTt' I already edited it, quit changing the subject.
I'm not, I said I'm not on crack.
Anyway this thread should be left to die...
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sir RAVEN WING
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:58:00 -
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How about this, shotgun does 50% less damaged when fired from cloak?
Also cut down the SG range to 10m
"There is only one thing I regret, that is only giving one life to my state." - Viktor Revon
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