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killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 82	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:22:00 - [1] - Quote It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
Orber Gen Academy Inferno E-R-A 233	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:26:00 - [2] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role Then they should remove shacking and recoil
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5880	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:28:00 - [3] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
zzZaXxx Vengeance Unbound 664	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:31:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* ^This. ScR isn't dominant I think except for with Amarr Assault, but that's the way each rifle should be with racial assaults. The next step is to make Cal/Gal bonuses equally effective for their rifles.
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 2012	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:36:00 - [5] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role lolno
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 4866	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:40:00 - [6] - Quote The ScR and its variants aren't in a bad place. As laser weapons they deal significantly less damage to armor, since armor remains the currently metagame go-to, lasers aren't exactly killing people in droves. My advice to you, playa...
KING CHECKMATE Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 5883	Posted - 2014.11.17 15:40:00 - [7] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* ^This. ScR isn't dominant I think except for with Amarr Assault, but that's the way each rifle should be with racial assaults. The next step is to make Cal/Gal bonuses equally effective for their rifles. The cal and gal assault bonuses are fine too. Try Cal Assault with Ishukune ARR/Kaalakiota and a good sidearm. Or try any other weapon say, Breach AR and BOLT PISTOL. With Gal assault bonus try Regular AR variant and Burst variants. They are not AS good as the Amarr assault bonus but gives you more versatility (both sidearms and light weapons. The ak.0 assault only works for light weapons, laser R and SCR. (Since SCR Pistol doesn't overheat) The best Damage mod is a HEADSHOT....
Morathi III New Eden Musketeers 243	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:09:00 - [8] - Quote LOL to everyone, CR still the best rifle by far since the beginning French Canadian Scrubs scout
TEBOW BAGGINS GREATNESS ACHIEVED THRU TROLLING 1352	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:09:00 - [9] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* this is like the OP's 3rd nerf post in 1 hour AKA Zirzo Valcyn AFKing since 2012
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 19148	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:11:00 - [10] - Quote I don't think I've been killed more than twice by a scrambler since the last patch tbh. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Currently challenging CCP Rattati for the queef

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2091	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:23:00 - [11] - Quote Do you play Calamari? If so, GTFO. Do you play Wimpmatar? If so, GTFO. Are you running scout? If so, GTFO. I can't help if you are dumb and choose a suit w/ no health, or if you're QQing about being countered by you're counter. Should I call the WAAAAAAAAAmbulance? Because you wanted to be something you're not.
Jack McReady Dust University Ivy League 1638	Posted - 2014.11.17 16:39:00 - [12] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role not sure if troll or just stu....
killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 83	Posted - 2014.11.17 20:03:00 - [13] - Quote No it's because CCP did it wrong, this is better than what they did When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14716	Posted - 2014.11.17 21:06:00 - [14] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: No it's because CCP did it wrong, this is better than what they did I'm sorry I'm trying to understand at what point CCP gives a **** about someone telling them their developed the game wrong...... Oh nope never mind. They don't. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
killertojo42 KnightKiller's inc. 84	Posted - 2014.11.17 21:29:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: killertojo42 wrote: No it's because CCP did it wrong, this is better than what they did I'm sorry I'm trying to understand at what point CCP gives a **** about someone telling them their developed the game wrong...... Oh nope never mind. They don't. Oh sorry but why are you on here? Must need a life if you aren't good enough troll in pubs When walking on the battlefield i stand alone
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14722	Posted - 2014.11.17 21:41:00 - [16] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: True Adamance wrote: killertojo42 wrote: No it's because CCP did it wrong, this is better than what they did I'm sorry I'm trying to understand at what point CCP gives a **** about someone telling them their developed the game wrong...... Oh nope never mind. They don't. Oh sorry but why are you on here? Must need a life if you aren't good enough troll in pubs Yup I'm a terrible scrub and self professed lord of rubber duckies. You may bow before me heathen. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5976	Posted - 2014.11.17 22:47:00 - [17] - Quote Just because the SCR is better than the AR at CQC does not mean that the SCR needs to be nerfed. Just buff the AR. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Sev Alcatraz 688	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:12:00 - [18] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role This is one of the stupidest thing I have ever read... The SCR has been nerfed so many times it not even funny, the cbr and bar are op as **** and need to be looked at Disgruntled vet
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4610	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:13:00 - [19] - Quote Have you tried the scr on a non amarr assault? 16 maybe 17 shots 20% less damage to armor with the highest base damage the regular shot can do is 71 damage and that's not counting the -20%. You people are just hopping on a nerf train to any town aren't yall? (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Michael Arck 6046	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:35:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* Alleged SCR user on damage control. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain

Desertion Law Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:48:00 - [21] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role If I could dislike this I would and it's fine the way it is your just a scrub :) Min Scout 5 Min assault 3 Skills in both 15/10
postapo wastelander Wasteland Desert Rangers 674	Posted - 2014.11.17 23:55:00 - [22] - Quote killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role No, ScR is completely fine, end of story. *"Savvy"*
Michael Arck 6046	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:12:00 - [23] - Quote Dont let em deter you OP. Keep pushing for a SCR nerf. Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14727	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:16:00 - [24] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Dont let em deter you OP. Keep pushing for a SCR nerf. If I recall correctly you are a Caldari scout. If that's true you should feel bad. Shields are for sissies. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Michael Arck 6046	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:27:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Dont let em deter you OP. Keep pushing for a SCR nerf. If I recall correctly you are a Caldari scout. If that's true you should feel bad. Shields are for sissies. Nope. I have a scout suit but its used to drop uplinks. We met on the battlefield when I was tinkering with it. Scouts never been my style. Im primarily assault. Second is sentinel. I have no apology for how I feel. I have dealt with the SCR for about two years. Told people to adjust. Adapt and overcome...even while SCR hunted me like a madman. As soon as we get the RR, GD rallied against it and I watched a rifle become a mere shadow of its former self. If I stood defiantly against SCR, why couldn't they against the RR? There were numerous ways to beat the RR user. The same should be afforded to the SCR. Not because of the prior statement but because during the rail's inception, it matched lethality of the SCR. In the name of proper balance and not prejudiced balance, the SCR needs to be looked at Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
Mex-0 158	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:28:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: killertojo42 wrote: It is very simple, it's a charge up weapin so decrease base damage, increase charge damage multiplier, as it stands right now the scrambler rifle out DPSs weapons at long and short range and even more than a few scouts use it as a short range weapon that just has long range capabilities, keeping its charge potential while decreasing base damage keeps the scrambler rifle completely viable and easily secure in its supposed role The SCR rifle has received SO MANY NERFS already...what? people cant get killed by something without them running to the forums to QQ about it and request ''balance'' ? (AKA QQ NERF) GTO of here. SCR is fine. Dont like it? Armor tank. NEXT.* Armor Tank? More like buff the shields.... MINJA
Lynn Beck Delta Vanguard 6 2253	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:48:00 - [27] - Quote The only nerf i remember Scr getting is the anti-mod controller RoF nerf and the Overheat nerf. It still does insane DPS, has an insane alpha, and a terrifying potential ammo efficiency. Personally, i want the gun to reward using the charge more, because ATM its just a fancy M-14 that shoots a yellow line and can also be a sniper rifle. General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14728	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:56:00 - [28] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: The only nerf i remember Scr getting is the anti-mod controller RoF nerf and the Overheat nerf. It still does insane DPS, has an insane alpha, and a terrifying potential ammo efficiency. Personally, i want the gun to reward using the charge more, because ATM its just a fancy M-14 that shoots a yellow line and can also be a sniper rifle. I demand a Breach ScR that fires like the old bolt action Brittish Lee Enfields. "The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 4190	Posted - 2014.11.18 00:57:00 - [29] - Quote usually i balance mine about halfway down the length of the weapon CCP Rattati ily! AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 GÇó CalLogi 5 now what?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14728	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:00:00 - [30] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: usually i balance mine about halfway down the length of the weapon Get on my level scrub. "The moment passed in thunder and calamitous intent and yet no order was given to retreat or give their ground"

John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics 4567	Posted - 2014.11.18 01:28:00 - [31] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Dont let em deter you OP. Keep pushing for a SCR nerf. I think we tried that already. It was called delta or something. Got reversed because it wasn't necessary. and now you know. (The godfather of tactical logistics)


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