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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:22:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon
I'll just leave this here... |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1911
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:27:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon I'll just leave this here...
id like to point out the second fact that scouts and shotguns are #2 and THEN its the pythons+missiles where missiles are only good cause of splash damage.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4824
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:29:00 -
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I'm in the process of slaughtering a goat to Rattati in the hopes he fixes HMG sentinels and SG scouts. I've been paying my aurum tithe Rattati. I ask for you to smite these heathens!
My advice to you, playa...
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Vitantur Nothus
Nos Nothi
286
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:30:00 -
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A reporting period of two weeks is extremely narrow, and that data is dated. Though I don't disagree with you if you're of the opinion that HMG and/or Heavy nerfs are long overdue. |
H0riz0n Unlimit
Dead Man's Game
199
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:34:00 -
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If you remove splash damage from Xt-1 you should remove it also from mass driver and flaylock and thats will never happen, the point is that amarr heavy has too many Hp and CCP is not working on making heavy tanking reps,i need 2/3 reload of six-kin CR to kill an A-1 series sentinel with 1250 of armour
The KTM DuKe lives here, send a message after the "beep".
TheD1ck is on the table fan club.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2849
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:37:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:I'm in the process of slaughtering a goat to Rattati in the hopes he fixes HMG sentinels and SG scouts. I've been paying my aurum tithe Rattati. I ask for you to smite these heathens!
SG scouts have been castrated....now for the sentinels.
To compare to the scout nerf, the HMG will now need a 1.5 second spool up time, but to make up for it, reduce heat buildup.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2849
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:38:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon I'll just leave this here... id like to point out the second fact that scouts and shotguns are #2 and THEN its the pythons+missiles where missiles are only good cause of splash damage.
Id like to point out that this data was before cloak castration...also, there is no way to nerf TTW3x.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4825
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Posted - 2014.11.16 21:59:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:SG scouts have been castrated....now for the sentinels. I just now started playing a cloak scout, but I'm not really noticing this "castration" you speak of. I pretty much curbstomp anything that isn't another scout or sentinel, especially if I get to ambush them while cloaked.
When I am in a scout dropsuit I feel... useful? Is this what Normal mode Dust 514 feels like? I've been playing Assault Nightmare mode for too long.
My advice to you, playa...
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
811
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:07:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:SG scouts have been castrated....now for the sentinels. I just now started playing a cloak scout, but I'm not really noticing this "castration" you speak of. I pretty much curbstomp anything that isn't another scout or sentinel, especially if I get to ambush them while cloaked. When I am in a scout dropsuit I feel... useful? Is this what Normal mode Dust 514 feels like? I've been playing Assault Nightmare mode for too long.
I have had a proto Scout with max cores/Ewar and a proto Assault for a while now.
The Assault is easier, less stressful, requires less thought, and is better at killing.
And slightly more fun as a result.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4825
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:15:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:The Assault is easier, requires less thought "Easy" isn't quantifiable, but it doesn't require as much forethought. Just pick a position and jump from cover to cover until you reach a red, open fire. Reload. Repeat.
As opposed to the scout: use your vastly superior movement speed and EWAR to flank the enemy, single out someone who isn't looking your way, kill him, run away before squad is aware. Repeat until VICTORY.
Eruditus 920 wrote:less stressful This game is as stressful as you allow it to be. Relax and any role can be stress-free.
Eruditus 920 wrote:is better at killing. Pretty sure that Rattati has posted some data that says differently.
My advice to you, playa...
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
811
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:21:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:The Assault is easier, requires less thought "Easy" isn't quantifiable, but it doesn't require as much forethought. Just pick a position and jump from cover to cover until you reach a red, open fire. Reload. Repeat. As opposed to the scout: use your vastly superior movement speed and EWAR to flank the enemy, single out someone who isn't looking your way, kill him, run away before squad is aware. Repeat until VICTORY. Eruditus 920 wrote:less stressful This game is as stressful as you allow it to be. Relax and any role can be stress-free. Eruditus 920 wrote:is better at killing. Pretty sure that Rattati has posted some data that says differently.
"Methinks thou dost protest too much."
This is not a trial and your reply seems desperate.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4825
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:24:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:"Methinks thou dost protest too much."
This is not a trial and your reply seems desperate. Honestly, I am a bit bummed  I wanted to play some Dust this weekend, specially FW. I formed a squad and hopped into the queue to be met with wave upon wave of Gal/Amarr proto HMG sentinels being double repped by logis and scouts continuing to out-assault assault dropsuits.
Disappointing to say the least.
Ah well, pubs are slightly better. I dropped some SP in Amarr scout and that has really helped. I die less and kill more, so there is that.
My advice to you, playa...
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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
397
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:37:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote: is better at killing.
Did you even read OP? |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
811
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:44:00 -
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jhon hartigan wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote: is better at killing.
Did you even read OP?
I do you one better.
I posted that Rattati quote 10 days ago. You are a bit late.
This forum is an exchange of ideas.
So again here's mine:
I kill more with my Assault. Can you imagine that?
I have a scout. I enjoy it. But I kill more with my Assault.
Is that not what you wanted to hear?
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1188
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:18:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:is better at killing. Pretty sure that Rattati has posted some data that says differently.
These kills were in PC where the game is completely different and was also before the cloak changes.
Amarrica!
killed again has ebola
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jhon hartigan
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
397
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Posted - 2014.11.16 23:50:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote: is better at killing.
Did you even read OP? I'll do you one better. I posted that Rattati quote quite a while ago. You are a bit late. This forum is an exchange of ideas. So again here's mine: I kill more with my Assault. Can you imagine that? I have a scout. I enjoy it. But I kill more with my Assault. Is that not what you wanted to hear?
We are not talking about what YOU prefer? Who cares about it? I m an assault too, I always play assault. here we are talking of what is used in PC, you can See that assaults and Commandos are barely used in PC, that s sad and wrong! |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:15:00 -
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Yes, lets continue the.nerfing.trend so we can remain.in this weird state of nerf buff, nerf buff.
Archistrategos / The 7th Prime / Selah
*Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Operative 1174 Uuali
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:19:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:I'm in the process of slaughtering a goat to Rattati in the hopes he fixes HMG sentinels and SG scouts. I've been paying my aurum tithe Rattati. I ask for you to smite these heathens!
I'll say. I usually go average 5 kills in a game. That's because I'm not an As*burgers victim so movement and numbers tends not attract me so much. However, when i go sentinel with HMG I can get as much as 34/0. Yeah, something's wrong or I must get a temp case of autism when playing sentinel. Since temp autism is not catchy I'd say it is the former.
I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4835
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:24:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yes, lets continue the.nerfing.trend so we can remain.in this weird state of nerf buff, nerf buff. An MMO is in a constant state of balancing. The "nerf buff nerf buff" cycle, as you called it, will not end. The quicker you accept that, the better.
My advice to you, playa...
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1289
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Posted - 2014.11.17 00:25:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:jhon hartigan wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:That's probably why Missile launchers on Pythons as a combo rank number 4 in PC kills, and the Proto XT-1 Missile Launcher ranks top 4 of PC kills, for the last two weeks
Kills
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Weapons, Light, Combat Rifles, Prototype, Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle
Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Six Kin Burst Heavy Machine Gun
Weapons, Light, Rail Rifles, Prototype, Kaalakiota Rail Rifle
Kills by Actor(Pawn) and Weapon
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ak.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel gk.0& Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0&Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, Duvolle Specialist Shotgun
Vehicles, Dropships, Assault, Python& Turrets, Missile, Small, Prototype, XT-1 Missile Launcher
Dropsuits, Light, Scout, Prototype, Scout gk.0& Weapons, Light, Shotguns, Prototype, CreoDron Shotgun
Dropsuits, Heavy, Sentinel, Prototype, Sentinel ck.0&Weapons, Heavy, Heavy Machine Guns, Prototype, Boundless Heavy Machine Gun
Vehicles, Heavy Attack Vehicles, Standard, Gunnlogi&Turrets, Railgun, Large, Prototype, 80GJ Particle Cannon I'll just leave this here... id like to point out the second fact that scouts and shotguns are #2 and THEN its the pythons+missiles where missiles are only good cause of splash damage.
Yes but there ate many more infantry than pilots, yet pilots come in 4th overall.
Because, that's why.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2853
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Posted - 2014.11.17 01:43:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:SG scouts have been castrated....now for the sentinels. I just now started playing a cloak scout, but I'm not really noticing this "castration" you speak of. I pretty much curbstomp anything that isn't another scout or sentinel, especially if I get to ambush them while cloaked. When I am in a scout dropsuit I feel... useful? Is this what Normal mode Dust 514 feels like? I've been playing Assault Nightmare mode for too long.
Assault is easy. Scout is high risk high reward. Assault is med risk med reward.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2853
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Posted - 2014.11.17 01:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Eruditus 920 wrote:"Methinks thou dost protest too much."
This is not a trial and your reply seems desperate. Honestly, I am a bit bummed I wanted to play some Dust this weekend, specially FW. I formed a squad and hopped into the queue to be met with wave upon wave of Gal/Amarr proto HMG sentinels being double repped by logis and scouts continuing to out-assault assault dropsuits. Disappointing to say the least. Ah well, pubs are slightly better. I dropped some SP in Amarr scout and that has really helped. I die less and kill more, so there is that.
Do you remember that one pub match I joined solo halfway through (shield was gone, armor was at top)?
It was a skirmish. You were running something, i didn't know what, and I had my minmitar assault. I went 17/0, with only half the match, while you went 15/7 for what I assume the entire match. If you were running Am Scout, I think that that disproves your point.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
4838
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Posted - 2014.11.17 01:51:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Do you remember that one pub match I joined solo halfway through (shield was gone, armor was at top)?
It was a skirmish. You were running something, i didn't know what, and I had my Minmatar assault. I went 17/0, with only half the match, while you went 15/7 for what I assume the entire match. If you were running Am Scout, I think that that disproves your point. Just started running Amarr scout this morning so I was running assault then.
Even still, 2.0 K/Dr is nothing like the 7.0 K/Dr I earned as a scout earlier today.
My advice to you, playa...
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1113
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Posted - 2014.11.17 01:52:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yes, lets continue the.nerfing.trend so we can remain.in this weird state of nerf buff, nerf buff.
Can you think of a better way to sell respecs?
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it, damn you! Turns out I wont.
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
300
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Posted - 2014.11.17 02:51:00 -
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No mention of the supposed fotm Breach AR I am shocked lol...
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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Blueprint For Murder
Immortal Guides
300
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Posted - 2014.11.17 03:01:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Yes, lets continue the.nerfing.trend so we can remain.in this weird state of nerf buff, nerf buff.
Many weapons preform as if they were ohkers when they are not meant to be that is not something you can buff your way out of; we would all be playing man with the golden gun the ttk in this game is pretty short anyway. The weird state of the game is caused by bad input from players and knee jerk reactions from devs e.g. don't nerf me bro. When considering what input you give it should be in respect to game health not epeen health.
The last few months what have been the big changes that you would bring up anyway? That you can now kill ads? That a number of weapons are less likely to insta kill you... god forbid lol.
The Impossible Dream-Wizard Talk @MMoMerc
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