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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2015.03.23 20:29:00 -
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lateriss wrote:I just downloaded the unreal engine 4. Time to do my own thing. In the meantime at least Dust514 is alive, Eve Valkyrie looks awesome, and Eve Online is kicking butt.
Yes, if by kicking butt you mean losing subscribers and slowly petering out, much like Dust as well.
We'll see if Valkyrie is enough to keep CCP afloat, but I doubt it.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2015.03.23 22:21:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong...
Except it isn't:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
Steady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Buster Friently wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilitySteady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Keep in mind that Eve-Offline is not accounting for those passive players who are on call for any major fleet battles that may occur. The recent addition of infinite skill queue may have played a role as well.
Eve offline counts anyone who logs in. It's true it doesn't count how many people are paying, but one can assume that it's related quite strongly to the number of concurrencies. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2015.04.03 03:37:00 -
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DaReaperPW wrote:Buster Friently wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilitySteady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly
Yes, it's rebounding, if by rebounding you mean a steady decline since 2014. Lol.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2015.05.12 16:59:00 -
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Captain Africa Clone1 wrote:Selinate deux wrote:DaReaperPW wrote:Buster Friently wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:expect thats it not, EvE is still very very strong... Except it isn't: http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquilitySteady decline, though minimal, since 2013. No growth at all since 2011 overall. Current user logons are consistent with those in 2009. That's not what I would call "very strong". Except you have no real correlation. Skill queues that can be a year + long means people can walk away form eve and play other stuff.. whill still paying for eve. Eve offline != subscription numbers. Only whos is online. You really can not get any real info from that site besides how many players are on. And eve has been peaking at 40K+ during prime time for months now, so its rebounding. But again, there is not enough information to support the claim that even is down subscribers. Even if you look at last years 6 month update, you can calculate that eve was down about 2.5k subscriptions in the first 6 months. But how much of that money was dust is the question. There just is no evidence to support either claim unfortunatly Yeah, sure. There are tens of thousands of Eve players just sitting offline indefinitely paying a subscription for a game that they never play.  Give up. Eve is actually declining at this point. If 40k + players is rebounding, then it has about 20k to go before you can say it's really "rebounding" since the devs at CCP built their game to be such a niche game that their current and past audience is just about their only audience. Incarna was just about the only time they ever tried to appeal to anyone outside of their niche market with that game and the players acted like brats and spoiled it for the large portion of the player base who actually wanted it and decided not to bother any more after witnessing the community act the way they did (like me). When they actually manage to make their game "fun" and less about spreadsheets in space, then maybe they'll get the subscription base they always wanted. Until then, have fun with the decline. Ah man ...look i dont want to pick a fight with you but stop spreading crap ...Eve online is in a very healthy state. CCP have to a large degree made policy to not allow players multiboxing 10-20 acounts (mining fleets) so there was a crap load of people that got rid of their extra accounts because of this. CCP's first priority is to make Eve a great game and if that means stepping on the toes of a few vets like myself then so be it ....Eve will be around for the next 12 years that you can take to the bank...there is just no equal. I mean for how long has people been DOOMING Dust ...and its still around and getting better. Im really so tired of people trying to spread neg publicity (if you don't like the fucken game then move on ) !!!!!
I don't see how you can describe a continual die-off of players as "a very healthy state". Eve, most definitely, isn't in a "very healthy state". At best, it's sustaining CCP, but there's no growth at CCP anymore, and it's almost guaranteed that CCP is now shrinking because of a shrinking Eve playerbase.
As I said earlier, as an employee of CCP, you wouldn't be looking at a declining player base as anything but "not healthy".
Also, this isn't negative publicity. It's an answer to a question, but it is clear that there is a certain community out there that, somehow, wants to translate "declining since 2013" as somehow "very healthy".
PS - You can't have a game without players. |
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