DUST Search - SP gain too low

Ripley Riley wrote:

Apothecary Za'ki wrote:

as a logi i used to be in top 3 or even overall MVP.. then needles changed.. my wp is like 1/3 to 1/2 what it used to be.. and now with lower sp payouts ugh this is just a disaster, I chose logi cause wp==sp(also because i like to help people and my gungame isnt that great) and that was/is important as a lower sp player (like 15m atm) compared to bittervets with 30m+

most of my gameplay is solo but i help the team as a logi. mostly people run bpo to proto, EOM is lower half of the team now and not only lower sp but the isk even when i do amazingly and reclaim my MVP spot for supreme loginess the isk is like 1/3 lower then it used to be

Wow. Running logi and placing that low is strange to say the least. Do you blame the reduction in SP payouts primarily on the needle changes or it is something more than that?

For background purposes, I run assault with drop uplinks or needles primarily. Occasionally I run Caldari logi with nanohives. I am in a squad far more often than I am soloing.

Side note: if you ever need a squad shoot me a mail.


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Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1846	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:08:00 - [1] - Quote SP gains are pathetic since tuesday patch.. needs to go back to what it was. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1851	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:00:00 - [2] - Quote yeah ccp is messing around with us :\| [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1852	Posted - 2014.11.13 23:35:00 - [3] - Quote ImIvan wrote: Yep, was 7k last week, now 2k, this is WAY to slow of a gain -.- its pathetically low [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1868	Posted - 2014.11.14 13:57:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Full disclosure: multiple people in GD have said that SP payouts seem to be lower. I realize that. CCP Rattati has even commented on it not being intended so I recognize this was not intentionally done by CCP. I'm receiving the same SP payouts from matches. Not seeing any changes really. I average in the top 5 on the EoM screen. I run domination and skirmish 95% of the time. No active boosters running right now. What is everyone running? Where do you fall on the EoM screen? How much of a drop have you noticed? Are you in a squad or soloing? I'm just curious. as a logi i used to be in top 3 or even overall MVP.. then needles changed.. my wp is like 1/3 to 1/2 what it used to be.. and now with lower sp payouts ugh this is just a disaster, i chose logi cause wp==sp(also because i like to help people and my gungame isnt that great) and that was/is important as a lower sp player (like 15m atm) compaired to bittervets with 30m+ [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1869	Posted - 2014.11.14 14:16:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: as a logi i used to be in top 3 or even overall MVP.. then needles changed.. my wp is like 1/3 to 1/2 what it used to be.. and now with lower sp payouts ugh this is just a disaster, I chose logi cause wp==sp(also because i like to help people and my gungame isnt that great) and that was/is important as a lower sp player (like 15m atm) compared to bittervets with 30m+ most of my gameplay is solo but i help the team as a logi. mostly people run bpo to proto, EOM is lower half of the team now and not only lower sp but the isk even when i do amazingly and reclaim my MVP spot for supreme loginess the isk is like 1/3 lower then it used to be Wow. Running logi and placing that low is strange to say the least. Do you blame the reduction in SP payouts primarily on the needle changes or it is something more than that? For background purposes, I run assault with drop uplinks or needles primarily. Occasionally I run Caldari logi with nanohives. I am in a squad far more often than I am soloing. Side note: if you ever need a squad shoot me a mail. i used to revive ALOT of people before the needle change but now people dont press X for ages if at all.. as a logi and with the stupidly restrictive SP cap on reptools, which might i add seems to have been lowered even more! i would prop up my WPs between reptool WP CAP cooldowns by sticking people with needles [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1869	Posted - 2014.11.14 14:27:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i used to revive ALOT of people before the needle change but now people dont press X for ages if at all.. as a logi and with the stupidly restrictive SP cap on reptools, which might i add seems to have been lowered even more! i would prop up my WPs between reptool WP CAP cooldowns by sticking people with needles The needle changes prevent people from getting trolled, which I have to admit I'm pretty happy about. Would increasing the amount of WP's earned with needles help? 60 -> 75 maybe? As for the rep tools' WP cap reduction, I have no idea. I don't fit them. CCP Rattati and/or Logibro, Any ninja changes to the repair tool WP cap? well ideally id lke to see the old needle system back but with a tweek so if the player dies a second time a short-ish while after being rezzed THEN they get the choice to call for a rez or go back to deployment. as for reptools, they are F'd up i use triage (L4) on my standard suit, core 2 beam(L5) on my adv suit and the Core Focused (L5) on proto suit.. and regardless of which i use sometimes even if i have yet to rep in the battle i get 0 WP for even repping a sentinel up from like 30% or 50% up to full... and sometimes if i rep some one up from low armor the WP per minute cap seems to then cockblock me as if it had been lowered by 1/2 when i try rep the second person.. i used reptools alot in 1.8 to help PTFO and cap hard to cap points and would take a while to cap on points per minute... but now in 1.9 it feels like with needle nerf and now the seemingly ninja reptool points per minute nerf it feels like running logi isnt even comparable to what it was even the day before 1.9 hit [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1869	Posted - 2014.11.14 14:36:00 - [7] - Quote my weekly WP has been 19,673 if i multiply by 4 that is 78,692 wp a month. so im like 25k wp behind this month compared to last months 104k (103,564) [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1869	Posted - 2014.11.14 14:37:00 - [8] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: i use triage (L4) on my standard suit, core 2 beam(L5) on my adv suit and the Core Focused (L5) on proto suit.. and regardless of which i use sometimes even if i have yet to rep in the battle i get 0 WP for even repping a sentinel up from like 30% or 50% up to full THAT makes me think this isn't a ninja nerf to rep tool WP cap. Instead, it sounds like a defect in how WP's are being calculated/awarded for rep tools. well i know needle wp works when people actually X up.. guess ill start another thread for feedback regarding Reptools. [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7