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Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 953	Posted - 2014.11.13 18:54:00 - [1] - Quote ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Spaceman-Rob Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 606	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:07:00 - [2] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? Wow you sound really good at this game, like! the best EVER! us newbs are just not worthy in the company of such greatness. How did you reach heights of greatness? Did Saxon teach you the ways of the ninja? Or were you just born this way?
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5838	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:14:00 - [3] - Quote I think there are some minor problems with tanking, that should be resolved by increasing the speed penalty just for scouts. I think there are some strafing problems, but I don't think it is limited to scouts. Otherwise the problems are more an exaggeration than anything. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 954	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:15:00 - [4] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? Wow you sound really good at this game, like! the best EVER! us newbs are just not worthy in the company of such greatness. How did you reach heights of greatness? Did Saxon teach you the ways of the ninja? Or were you just born this way? Well this is the point, I'm by far not the best player in Dust. Yet I can still take on a scout... SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13677	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:25:00 - [5] - Quote Anecdotal "Scouts Are Balanced" thread #23. Any bets on who will make #24? Syeven Reed wrote: [...] Militia Breach. Seems Legit. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 954	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:27:00 - [6] - Quote Atiim wrote: Anecdotal "Scouts Are Balanced" thread #23. Any bets on who will make #24? Syeven Reed wrote: [...] Militia Breach. Seems Legit. It is. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
robin williams' ghost Damaged Beyond Repair 43	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:28:00 - [7] - Quote Here's the fault in your logic, is not scouts crying about other scouts, is everyone else
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 954	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:30:00 - [8] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Here's the fault in your logic, is not scouts crying about other scouts, its everyone else Thats not my logic. Syeven Reed wrote: If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. Edit: The point was that I could pick up something that I'm not really skilled into and still go toe to toe with them. Because of that, I don't see why people are complaining. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5841	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:35:00 - [9] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Here's the fault in your logic, is not scouts crying about other scouts, its everyone else His point is that he can more effectively deal with a large number of scouts on an opposing team by switching to a medium frame rather than still use his scout fits. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13679	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:35:00 - [10] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Atiim wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: [...] Militia Breach. Seems Legit. It is. About as legitimate as Vitantur Nothus, who is literally a banned illegitimate. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5841	Posted - 2014.11.13 19:37:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: Atiim wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: [...] Militia Breach. Seems Legit. It is. About as legitimate as Vitantur Nothus, who is literally a banned illegitimate. I am willing to bet he is pretty legit. Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Sergeant Sazu Kitties of Doom 174	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:17:00 - [12] - Quote 8/10 I was typing up a huge post to correct all of your statements and suddenly heard Admiral Ackbar in my head. Bravo sir. Always Assault, even through the dark days [33.3m SP - Next skill: Combat Rifle Sharpshooter 4]
G Felix 142	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:50:00 - [13] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: 8/10 I was typing up a huge post to correct all of your statements and suddenly heard Admiral Ackbar in my head. Bravo sir. Same here. Atiim is like my troll weathervane, he shows me which way the wind is blowing. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 313	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:56:00 - [14] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? Wow you sound really good at this game, like! the best EVER! us newbs are just not worthy in the company of such greatness. How did you reach heights of greatness? Did Saxon teach you the ways of the ninja? Or were you just born this way? Well this is the point, I'm by far not the best player in Dust. Yet I can still take on a scout... Its not that we can't take scouts 1v1 when we see them, its the cloak and strafe and overuse of them that make us hate them.I deleted all my scout fts except my BPO because of this. I run my BPO with no cloak and do fine. Remove and rework the cloak while scouts have to play the old way. Gallente Assault-Caldari Logistics `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp - - Join the LFSquad chat -`
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1087	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:03:00 - [15] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Here's the fault in your logic, is not scouts crying about other scouts, its everyone else Well... That's not completely true. There have been many "whaaa whaaa, scouts maxed out and dedicated to detection can find me because I brick tank and refuse to max out dampening" threads. The detection range nerf to cloaks is actually a buff to those brick tanking scout suit users. How to balance cloaks.
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 97	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:05:00 - [16] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Atiim wrote: Anecdotal "Scouts Are Balanced" thread #23. Any bets on who will make #24? Syeven Reed wrote: [...] Militia Breach. Seems Legit. It is. Do you have a Militia Burst to?
Mex-0 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 151	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:15:00 - [17] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? Wow you sound really good at this game, like! the best EVER! us newbs are just not worthy in the company of such greatness. How did you reach heights of greatness? Did Saxon teach you the ways of the ninja? Or were you just born this way? True, you aren't worthy to be in the presence of a Minja, let alone a SUCCESSFUL one. I used the bolt pistol before it was (OP) cool.
Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:38:00 - [18] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? The problem is that there is such a thing as a cloaked scout in this game that is not scouting, but acting like a ninja. The cloake has moved this game more toward a stupid arena rumble game. The cloak has given an advantage to players who otherwise wouldn't run a ninja scout and now it is being spammed to death. The role is called scout, not ninja. If you want a ninja then it is an adapted game play of the scout suit. Ninja is not, as of yet, an actual role. The cloak as it is is legitimizing a playstyle as if it is THE role of a scout suit rather than scouting. And the ultimate kick in the nuts for folks like me is that the scout as a scout as well as a sniper is suffering and should rightfully be the gameplay that is developed and defined. These two playstyles are more tactical and this game needs to move back toward tactical play, not instagib runny gunny crap. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 961	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:42:00 - [19] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? The problem is that there is such a thing as a cloaked scout in this game that is not scouting, but acting lika a ninja. The cloake has moved this game more toward a stupid arena rumble game. The cloak has given an advantage to players who otherwise wouldn't run a ninja scout and now it is being spammed to death. The role is called scout, not ninja. If you want a ninja then it is an adapted game play of the scout suit. Ninja is not, as of yet, an actual role. The cloak as it is is legitimizing a playstyle as if it is THE role of a scout suit rather than scouting. And the ultimate kick in the nuts for folks like me is that the scout as a scout as well as a sniper is suffering and should rightfully be the gameplay that is developed and defined. These two play styles are more tactical and this game needs to move back toward tactical play, not instagib runny gunny crap. My nova knives would disagree with you. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 961	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:45:00 - [20] - Quote Sergeant Sazu wrote: 8/10 I was typing up a huge post to correct all of your statements and suddenly heard Admiral Ackbar in my head. Bravo sir. It's genuinely not a trap and I would love to have a discussion on it. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial

Operative 1174 Uuali The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 67	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:48:00 - [21] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? The problem is that there is such a thing as a cloaked scout in this game that is not scouting, but acting lika a ninja. The cloake has moved this game more toward a stupid arena rumble game. The cloak has given an advantage to players who otherwise wouldn't run a ninja scout and now it is being spammed to death. The role is called scout, not ninja. If you want a ninja then it is an adapted game play of the scout suit. Ninja is not, as of yet, an actual role. The cloak as it is is legitimizing a playstyle as if it is THE role of a scout suit rather than scouting. And the ultimate kick in the nuts for folks like me is that the scout as a scout as well as a sniper is suffering and should rightfully be the gameplay that is developed and defined. These two play styles are more tactical and this game needs to move back toward tactical play, not instagib runny gunny crap. My nova knives would disagree with you. That doesn't apply to anything I wrote. I'm better than laser focused; I'm hybrid focused.
G Felix 148	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote Syeven Reed wrote: Sergeant Sazu wrote: 8/10 I was typing up a huge post to correct all of your statements and suddenly heard Admiral Ackbar in my head. Bravo sir. It's genuinely not a trap and I would love to have a discussion on it. As of late these forums are one giant discussion about scout balance. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
gfd gfgh Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:52:00 - [23] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? The problem is that there is such a thing as a cloaked scout in this game that is not scouting, but acting lika a ninja. The cloake has moved this game more toward a stupid arena rumble game. The cloak has given an advantage to players who otherwise wouldn't run a ninja scout and now it is being spammed to death. The role is called scout, not ninja. If you want a ninja then it is an adapted game play of the scout suit. Ninja is not, as of yet, an actual role. The cloak as it is is legitimizing a playstyle as if it is THE role of a scout suit rather than scouting. And the ultimate kick in the nuts for folks like me is that the scout as a scout as well as a sniper is suffering and should rightfully be the gameplay that is developed and defined. These two play styles are more tactical and this game needs to move back toward tactical play, not instagib runny gunny crap. My nova knives would disagree with you. That doesn't apply to anything I wrote. In that case I have no idea what you were trying to say...
Syeven Reed T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 961	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:54:00 - [24] - Quote gfd gfgh wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Syeven Reed wrote: ... I really don't see a problem. Some of you know I'm a Minja, the squishiest of the squishiest. I have something in the rage of 400eHP and can hold my own in a match full of scouts. If there are to many scouts, guess what, I run something else. Was I pub games earlier today where I was ripping proto scouts a new one with a Sever Logi BPO (lvl1 btw) and a Militia Breach. I really do not see the problem everyones complaining about! I know I've played this game for a long time but even then I doubt I'm 'that' good! Whats the problem? The problem is that there is such a thing as a cloaked scout in this game that is not scouting, but acting lika a ninja. The cloake has moved this game more toward a stupid arena rumble game. The cloak has given an advantage to players who otherwise wouldn't run a ninja scout and now it is being spammed to death. The role is called scout, not ninja. If you want a ninja then it is an adapted game play of the scout suit. Ninja is not, as of yet, an actual role. The cloak as it is is legitimizing a playstyle as if it is THE role of a scout suit rather than scouting. And the ultimate kick in the nuts for folks like me is that the scout as a scout as well as a sniper is suffering and should rightfully be the gameplay that is developed and defined. These two play styles are more tactical and this game needs to move back toward tactical play, not instagib runny gunny crap. My nova knives would disagree with you. That doesn't apply to anything I wrote. In that case 'I' have no idea what you were trying to say... SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED EvE - 21 Day Trial
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 2085	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:18:00 - [25] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: I think there are some minor problems with tanking, that should be resolved by increasing the speed penalty just for scouts. I think there are some strafing problems, but I don't think it is limited to scouts. Otherwise the problems are more an exaggeration than anything. Yeah. Scout strafing definitely is a bit strong, but I'll just take it as it is. Because you wanted to be something you're not.


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