DUST Search - proto in pub

maluble wrote:

If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game.

These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now.

Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto.

It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers?
This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op).

At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish.

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maluble Art.of.Death VP Gaming Alliance 159	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:20:00 - [1] - Quote If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish.
TritusX PH4NT0M5 49	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:22:00 - [2] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. look at saxonmish and no he is great at proto but he can only do it so much. IF one day he needs to let out his rage then where does he go????? ALSO PLAYERBASE IS TOO SMALL TO MOVE EVERYONE UNDER 10-15M SP INTO A NEW CATEGORY THE LITERAL 10-15M SP WILL BEAT THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF THE GUYS UNDER THAT If only you could attach RE to yourself and kamikaze a tank
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4549	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:23:00 - [3] - Quote What about APEX suits? They're proto...
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 5829	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:25:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: What about APEX suits? They're proto... Proto suits with lame fittings... Thunderbolt. verb and noun. "James thunderbolted in his pants." "I lit a bag of thunderbolt on fire on CCP's doorway"
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 417	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:42:00 - [5] - Quote What about proto AV and Logi fits? Modules? Equipment? I cant use complex damps on my adv fit? No six kin repper on my adv logi? is mark sanchez gonna take nick foles' job? Them proto flux uplinks tho. Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 286	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:42:00 - [6] - Quote maluble wrote: Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. Hi, my name is 137H4RGIC, and I run basic in pubs only, and this is a QQ thread. Risk vs. Reward, I like killing proto in basic suits. Tells me I'm better than the player I killed. Try going for that. D.U.S.T. Don't Underestimate Stupid Tryhards...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1386	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:49:00 - [7] - Quote Your actually going to bring up Sax's name in comparison ??? That guy could very well wreck in anything because he just doesn't go headstrong into the enemy , he uses his brain and strategy where most don't . I think the q-syncing in pubs are more of a problem because it's backed by proto players in most cases and multiple on top of being organized against random players . That's more of a problem IMHO . Sax could wreck a team by his self so I believe him to be the exception just like Sym or even Duna ( even though you might not like him ) these are people who understand their role and what they do and really could do what they do without help . It's a big difference playing these types of players and your average Pro player . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
CharacterNameWasTaken 223	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:08:00 - [8] - Quote i think we would see a fall in proto stomping if we made an extra mode for the soloers. All of these people that say your nerfing yourself by playing solo so you deserve no part in a team based game. Why should they care right because they dont solo so its not any of their buisness but they still chose to be ignorant because all they do is play in squads all day and if there was a solo mode that would mean more of a chance gor them to run up against a challeng and we all know proto stompers hate a challenge. Seriously a solo mode would be way better for the community newbs and vets because less people would run proto because they arent in a squad. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 519	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:17:00 - [9] - Quote Im relatively poor but yet good enough to use proto every match because i dont die much, so should i get zero isk for my effort?
KenKaniff69 Fatal Absolution 2484	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:18:00 - [10] - Quote Maluable o/ ?

TIGER SHARK1501 Savage Bullet 53	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:22:00 - [11] - Quote Joel II X wrote: What about APEX suits? They're proto... With basic modules? Not quite. They are the lesser version of a proto setup. I would love to see new berries rocking that suit tho.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 375	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:24:00 - [12] - Quote Solo only matches would suck, and I solo. This complaint will never go away.. Most of these dudes don't squad, they put their 15 mil sp into 10 difernt weps and 4 diferent suits instead of cores, don't spend any cash on the game to buy items that will let them stack up isk to run their proto for a couple weeks. Raise isk payouts for selling stuff back to cover their suits. 28k for officer wep is a joke.
G Felix 129	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:26:00 - [13] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: What about proto AV and Logi fits? Modules? Equipment? I cant use complex damps on my adv fit? No six kin repper on my adv logi? is mark sanchez gonna take nick foles' job? Them proto flux uplinks tho. Lol, this post cracked me up. Nice. Foles is back in once he heals up. Chip needs guys that buy into his system 100% and Foles does. Foles was one of the most underrated QB's in the Pac 12, and Chip had to deal with him slinging the ball all over the place while he was here with Oregon. Sanchez is physical enough to run the system, but he's just keeping the seat warm. Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
CharacterNameWasTaken 223	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:27:00 - [14] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: Joel II X wrote: What about APEX suits? They're proto... With basic modules? Not quite. They are the lesser version of a proto setup. I would love to see new berries rocking that suit tho. yep because all new berries either want to spend $ on a game they probaly hate or have 10 mil isk and 100k lp from fw. yeah all newberries have that right? I get that you have to put some effort in to get them as cco coukd make more money from you just buying them but not every newberry either wnts to spend $ on a game they know nothing about or wants to grind on a mode thats filled with squads and proto stompers just to get a crappy suit. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7679	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:30:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah, lets take Risk v Reward and only reward people who don't take risks. Because that will be better in the long run Gear restrictions are a bad idea. In any scenario. Bullet Hell and Duct-Tape? Count me in! FA recruits get free officer BPO's. Enlist today. Must be a scrub to enter.
CharacterNameWasTaken 223	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:35:00 - [16] - Quote hold that wrote: Solo only matches would suck, and I solo. This complaint will never go away.. Most of these dudes don't squad, they put their 15 mil sp into 10 difernt weps and 4 diferent suits instead of cores, don't spend any cash on the game to buy items that will let them stack up isk to run their proto for a couple weeks. Raise isk payouts for selling stuff back to cover their suits. 28k for officer wep is a joke. that is the exact reason we need a better tutorial process for newbies. Anyway whu do you think a solo only mode would suck because alot of forumers solo and complain about proto stomping squads yet they never want a solo mode which is stupid. If there was a solo only mode you could still join the non solo mode just squadscant join the solo only mode it wont restrict you to solo mode just because you arent in a squad. I personally hate squads because either the sl is stupid and tells me to do things that wont let me help the team or he is stuoid and has no idea that if all yhe points are hacked you just go around hacking all of the points and stop trying to hold just one. "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect 521	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:41:00 - [17] - Quote People need to harden up and dare to use their good gear against the good teams. If everybodu shat their pants and spawned in their starter suit to save their precious isk every time nyain chan showed up nyain san would win every match. Er... wait.
taxi bastard Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 270	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:41:00 - [18] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. well although before i lobbied for gear tiered battles the time has passed where its viable to due so because of population density. Saying that squads are probably a greater balancing factor than gear levels, but add the 2 together and houston team b has a problem, and just to add salt to the wound shared vision and orbitals to make the stomping that much harder. My personal solution is to reduce the squad sizes in public contracts to 3 - this will make the distribution of players alot easier to balance and although it would still be beneficial to squad up the rewards would not be as pronounced. 6 man squads would still be available for FW, PC .....maybe dom and bush could have the option of which type of battle to fightt 6 or 3 man?
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 788	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:42:00 - [19] - Quote OP I have seen you in pubs sporting proto gear so dial it back chachi. I always take issue with random nobodys telling others how they should play. Players grind to get the best stuff. Are you saying they shouldn't use it? It's PC, FW or scrubby pubs. Most will never play PC. If a merc wants to run proto in pubs or FW, just as you do, why can't they? Look up hypocrite in Websters btw. "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
CharacterNameWasTaken 223	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:50:00 - [20] - Quote forgot to ask what about fw proto gear? "Stop it the bouncing is making me uncomfortable" - Senji/Crow

Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3429	Posted - 2014.11.13 04:54:00 - [21] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. lulz...coming from a guy who cloaks and knife people in the back all day. > Check RND out here
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2734	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:02:00 - [22] - Quote Proto gear in squads is not as much of an issue as the organized squads against a randomer team. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 1170	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:24:00 - [23] - Quote maluble why are you so against prototype gear? Is it because your parents couldn't afford an Allotek-¬ Lunch Box when you were little and have been forever upset that everyone laughed at you? Amarrica! killed again has ebola
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3429	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:33:00 - [24] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: maluble why are you so against prototype gear? Is it because your parents couldn't afford an Allotek-¬ Lunch Box when you were little and have been forever upset that everyone laughed at you? He's mad cause he gets melted by a Duvolle or Six Kin before he gets to nova knife someone in the back.The nerve of this dude calling people scrubs for using proto gear when all he does is cloak and knife you in the back. > Check RND out here
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4395	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:41:00 - [25] - Quote Pay me isk and I will not proto stomp you for a little while I don't rage,I get even Send isk please
iKILLu osborne Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 459	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:53:00 - [26] - Quote is op trolling? i die twice in my proto and i'm going negative lp cal scout i demand it z platoon, cfw channel
Stryker Syx Vector D3ATH CARD RUST415 22	Posted - 2014.11.13 05:53:00 - [27] - Quote Bottom line is this. Whether you hate proto stomping or not it won't change. First, those who use proto spent MONTHS earning it, you can't just critize them for it. Second, the player base is too small to divide people up. Lastly, this game is built this way, you can't just god mode into it. Fight smart, don't 1v1 a proto Amarr with a scrambler in mlt gear.
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 2241	Posted - 2014.11.13 06:36:00 - [28] - Quote I run proto and I deserve the ISK. If I wasn't running proto my team would be at a disadvantage. If I fail to bring my best than that hurts my team, quit B****** and get some proto. Cant afford it, that's your fault. I earned, I burn it, I do not care. Proto all day, everyday. Can the other voices in other peoples minds hear my voices in my head????
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2668	Posted - 2014.11.13 07:14:00 - [29] - Quote He didn't get the memo? Really? FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
Ryme Intrinseca Dead Man's Game RUST415 1976	Posted - 2014.11.13 07:40:00 - [30] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? If you don't use proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like being a cheap scrub and hurting your team so no need for a payout right?

Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 420	Posted - 2014.11.13 07:54:00 - [31] - Quote Serious Question How about if the proto squad is on the other team? I should be punished for going proto to counter it? Opus Arcana \| TBD Ringleader Hi
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 215	Posted - 2014.11.13 08:26:00 - [32] - Quote hahaha...i risk alot if i use proto, and i should get no reward? Seems like you want to reward redline snipers that take NO risk but get rewards. Just get good, half my public matches consist of me proto-stomping because i ******* can! I have the ISK and SP to, so why not? The other half i run a standard fit that has everything my proto fit does, just standard I can stomp in standard as well, but i use proto because i have earned it and it looks good in the kill-feed Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
jade gamester Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2014.11.13 10:09:00 - [33] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. My issue - I jump in a game with quake sentinel, two squads on other team are fully scout proto. If I don't switch to proto? Well lose :/ it's the sad part of the game King of contradiction all hail kingthunderbolt o7
TritusX PH4NT0M5 50	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:30:00 - [34] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Your actually going to bring up Sax's name in comparison ??? Yes he is a good player. I just bring up his name because he likes running proto and he is practically broke because of it. If only you could attach RE to yourself and kamikaze a tank
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 982	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:38:00 - [35] - Quote Plasma Cannon / Forge Gun those proto-wielding buggers You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 312	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:42:00 - [36] - Quote maluble wrote: If you run proto in pub you should get 0 pay out. Obviously you feel like you have enough isk to run it so no need for a payout right? Obviously this isn't always the case but something needs to be done to make this game more enjoyable. At this point the topic of this post is #1 thing wrong with this game. These people actually think they are good but in fact kill off most of the potential player base. If this continues into legion it will fail before it even takes off. I had at least 15 friends who stoped playing dust after the first day or two due to unfair teams (getting proto stomped), and that was over a year ago think about how much worse it is now. Anyone who claims this is a qq thread then your obviously one of the scrubs i am refering to so thanks for identifying yourself. I am simply pointing out the 1 thing that needs fixing. Either give proto stompers 0 pay out or give us gear based game modes. Basic,avd,proto. It doesnt take a genius to figure out proto is superior to basic so how is it fair that low lvl players or people who choose to wear basic have to go up against proto stompers? This could all be fixed yet nothing changes. Things still get nerfed and buffed when said thing didnt even need to be messed with (breach ar/bp way op). At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. Proto isn't that much better than skilled basic. #mltlaserbpomeltsprotocalheavywithquafe and no one cares, if the new people are gonna be good for the game they will get there own proto and keep trying. We don't want the quitters who cry about protostomping on the forums. I run proto solo and not very often and i die a lot, i usually use advanced and can kill proto OR avoid it and go for easier targets. We know protostomping is a problem and its getting fixed for legion, and its ono ever a problem when PC players sync FW or get a squad going, but if you have a squad against theres you have a good chance at beating them. Proto stomping is fine with me, but Proto scout stomping is bad. Gallente Assault-Caldari Logistics `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp - - Join the LFSquad chat -`
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 350	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:51:00 - [37] - Quote Alright look, i got hate mail from this dude for using proto last night. Now im not sure why, when he had a full squad of his corp with him. Now despite what I said in one of the messages "#protoallday". I dont run proto all day I use adv gear mostly. The match was a full squad of those fools and a full squad of some corp i forgot on my side. Me by myself against full squad of aod im going proto. Im not gonna get my ass handed to me sorry. it was a close close match my team lost by 4 ticks on mcc. yet he left the game. now excuse me i need to go Get Good. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
Vesperz Algintal Core Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2014.11.13 20:53:00 - [38] - Quote ... ....... but I've seen you run proto bruh "Live by honor, kill by stealth." Gal Scout since 1.0, Min Scout since 1.1
137H4RGIC Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 290	Posted - 2014.11.13 21:24:00 - [39] - Quote maluble wrote: At the very least move players under 10-15 mil sp into their own servet so we can at least maintain a new playerbase, and make the acemdemy actually show people how to play the game i am absolutly amazed at the amount of blues who dont know how to run a skirmish. you want us to make a ten to twenty million bracket when you pass 15 mil too? eye roll D.U.S.T. Don't Underestimate Stupid Tryhards...
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1394	Posted - 2014.11.13 22:22:00 - [40] - Quote TritusX wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Your actually going to bring up Sax's name in comparison ??? Yes he is a good player. I just bring up his name because he likes running proto and he is practically broke because of it. But you know as well as I do that he's not the average player . That's what I'm talking about . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .



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