DUST Search - I got 2 hit

Pokey Dravon wrote:

Louis Domi wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Louis Domi wrote:

boba's fetta wrote:

this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun.

They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line

Flying close to the enemy redline?

Really now......

one of the Smaller maps

Even the smallest maps have plenty of space to avoid redline rails. 300m Max Range, and thats direct range not just horizontal so the horizontal range decreases the more altitude you have, because geometry.

Also a Damage modded Proto rail can easily pop a dropship in 2 hits, especially if they hit your engine pods for the bonus damage. And before you complain about rail HAV, imagine how an HAV feels about a dropship thats flying above it, being bombarded with literally no way to retaliate. HAVs are completely helpless against dropships above them without outside support.

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Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 775	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:05:00 - [1] - Quote ***** tanks 2 hit kill me in my python -.- What the actual **...
Pushing Charlie Elite Intergalactic Mercenaries 398	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:08:00 - [2] - Quote I don't see the problem. Knight Soiaire I BELIEVE!
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:10:00 - [3] - Quote Dont use a python when the other team has 2 tankers. learn from ur mistakes instead of bitching on the forums
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 775	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:14:00 - [4] - Quote XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX wrote: Dont use a python when the other team has 2 tankers. learn from ur mistakes instead of bitching on the forums 1 tank *****
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX Vengeance Unbound RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:18:00 - [5] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX wrote: Dont use a python when the other team has 2 tankers. learn from ur mistakes instead of bitching on the forums 1 tank ***** sorry u said tanks so i thought u meant 2 but anyways rail guns do a little less than 2000 damage a shot so 2 hits should take down an ads
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 791	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:20:00 - [6] - Quote this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14505	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:22:00 - [7] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: ***** tanks 2 hit kill me in my python -.- What the actual *... I also do not see the problem. You were hit by two rounds from cannon designed to anchor entire ground force battle lines and that can engage low flying star faring vessels with good effect. More over you were likely (I am not saying you were just that chances are) flowing low altitude. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this."* -Kador Ouryon
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 775	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:23:00 - [8] - Quote boba's fetta wrote: this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun. They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line
Sir Snugglz Red Star. EoN. 889	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:24:00 - [9] - Quote I blow them up before they get the first shot in.... if there is 2 tanks i shoot one until i get my 75 WP and run... repeat for the entire match... unless one tank is stupid and leaves the other... then i go back to blowing them up one at a time. -Pro AFKing LVL 5 -Luck is just one of my skills -Just because I make flying look easy doesn't mean it is
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14507	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:30:00 - [10] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: boba's fetta wrote: this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun. They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line Flying close to the enemy redline? Really now...... "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon

boba's fetta Dead Man's Game RUST415 792	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:33:00 - [11] - Quote you are a drop ship pilot unprepared for a rail gun? you deserved to crash and burn.
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 775	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:40:00 - [12] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Louis Domi wrote: boba's fetta wrote: this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun. They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line Flying close to the enemy redline? Really now...... one of the Smaller maps
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3480	Posted - 2014.11.12 22:49:00 - [13] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Louis Domi wrote: boba's fetta wrote: this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun. They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line Flying close to the enemy redline? Really now...... one of the Smaller maps Even the smallest maps have plenty of space to avoid redline rails. 300m Max Range, and thats direct range not just horizontal so the horizontal range decreases the more altitude you have, because geometry. Also a Damage modded Proto rail can easily pop a dropship in 2 hits, especially if they hit your engine pods for the bonus damage. And before you complain about rail HAV, imagine how an HAV feels about a dropship thats flying above it, being bombarded with literally no way to retaliate. HAVs are completely helpless against dropships above them without outside support. Hotfix Delta Sentinel eHP Calcs
Riptalis Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 79	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:22:00 - [14] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: Louis Domi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Louis Domi wrote: boba's fetta wrote: this may sound like a shocking concept. but perhaps try not to get hit twice by a sodding railgun. They fire pretty fast Didn't even have time to **** my pants before the second shot hit. The problem I don't like is because it was in the red line Flying close to the enemy redline? Really now...... one of the Smaller maps Even the smallest maps have plenty of space to avoid redline rails. 300m Max Range, and thats direct range not just horizontal so the horizontal range decreases the more altitude you have, because geometry. Also a Damage modded Proto rail can easily pop a dropship in 2 hits, especially if they hit your engine pods for the bonus damage. And before you complain about rail HAV, imagine how an HAV feels about a dropship thats flying above it, being bombarded with literally no way to retaliate. HAVs are completely helpless against dropships above them without outside support. At least tanks get more time. Rail tanks shoot pretty fast. If you're in a tank you can easily get out shoot swarms or forges and leave. Or just camp near the back like almost everyone and when a ADS gets close you can just go redline. ADS on the other hand are right in the open, and you have to be really careful with not flying too low or too close to buildings. Python pilot PSN: Riptalis
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1830	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:24:00 - [15] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: ***** tanks 2 hit kill me in my python -.- What the actual **... that 2 hit kill will have been damage boosted too normally its 3 hits to 4 hits depending on meta level and stuff [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]] All Hail our Lord and Savior CCP RATTATTI o7
Cody Sietz Random Gunz RISE of LEGION 4110	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:25:00 - [16] - Quote Yup, not really sure what the problem is here... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Mejt0 Puff n Puffers 500	Posted - 2014.11.12 23:59:00 - [17] - Quote It takes 1 shoot (BFG) to take down madrugar. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13653	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:22:00 - [18] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: It takes 1 shoot (BFG) to take down madrugar. Give me one Madrugar fit that get's OHKed by a BFG. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Thaddeus Reynolds Facepunch Security 84	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:27:00 - [19] - Quote ...I one shot a Maddy with a BFG before...I don't know what its fitting was, but then proceded to shoot at a soma that took 4 rounds before esplodding...so I'm assuming either failfit or specialty fit (I had hit the weak spot on the back)...if that was you I one-shot, I do feel bad about it... but on the main topic...The problem here is? Khanid Logi and Tanker, sometimes AV Heavy or Sniper. I believe all these roles are support for front line soldiers.
Hakyou Brutor Capital Acquisitions LLC 1578	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:30:00 - [20] - Quote Thaddeus Reynolds wrote: ...I one shot a Maddy with a BFG before...I don't know what its fitting was, but then proceded to shoot at a soma that took 4 rounds before esplodding...so I'm assuming either failfit or specialty fit (I had hit the weak spot on the back)...if that was you I one-shot, I do feel bad about it... but on the main topic...The problem here is? You hit the Madrugar's soft spot, not going to go into any more detail on that subject. Knight Soiaire = my bae

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14527	Posted - 2014.11.13 01:46:00 - [21] - Quote Riptalis wrote: At least tanks get more time. Rail tanks shoot pretty fast. If you're in a tank you can easily get out shoot swarms or forges and leave. Or just camp near the back like almost everyone and when a ADS gets close you can just go redline. ADS on the other hand are right in the open, and you have to be really careful with not flying too low or too close to buildings. Indeed but to be fair we cannot fly to shoot over cover, or manoeuvre so well as Dropships, nor can we run within the space of seconds to the flight cieling, and moreover are fundamentally we are designed to be able to take hits before we are destroyed. Though I see your point. Large Turrets do need a re-think. But come now HAV are just a present on the map as ADS, only one of 3 turrets has any range worth a damn and that is not a distant range at all. "HeGÇÖs sorry. ThatGÇÖs his sorry faceGÇª. Just keep quiet for now and maybe you'll get through this." -Kador Ouryon
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5429	Posted - 2014.11.13 02:30:00 - [22] - Quote I think the people saying the OP needs to "get good" are forgetting that the Railguns only had a nerf to range, but still have their same rate of fire. Even with taking immediate evasive action, the second Railgun shot will usually hit you and kill you. This isn't even an option for Standard Dropships. A Myron or Grimsnes can't even get moving fast enough to avoid dying. I brick 3500 shield HP on my Myron, and it does nothing to save me. Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui VEHICLEBUSTERS Demolitions and Logistics Corp . 1386	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:10:00 - [23] - Quote It might have the same ROF but they overheat fast as well if not managed properly . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .
Everything Dies FUNNY NAME GOES HERE 1071	Posted - 2014.11.13 03:19:00 - [24] - Quote 1. The moment I hear/see an enemy dropship enter the field, I call out my Particle Cannon and try to flank them around the outskirts of the map. 2. Pythons/Vipers do seem awfully squishy compared to an Incubus; I rarely see pilots dominate a match in one, whereas I still run into the occasional Incubus pilot that can survive and gain some good WP. Problem is likely the speed with which rail turrets can get off 3-4 shots compared to standard AV; buffing HP would only punish infantry AV while making little difference to tanks. Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof
B-F M Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 54	Posted - 2014.11.17 03:01:00 - [25] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: ***** tanks 2 hit kill me in my python -.- What the actual **... If it makes you feel any better I took 8900 damage in one shot (well, volley) from an XT-201 missile tanker, no DS in the game could survive that. Lesson: do not fly near the missile tank. Also on the list of dropship insta-kills to watch out for: Null cannon missiles MCC -> MCC missiles RDVs the list goes on... It's not great when it happens but if you fly carefully and reduce unnecessary risks it'll happen a lot less. I guess.. sometimes bad things happen to good people..? GöÇGòñGòªn++ Ghosts of Dawn // now recruiting. n++GòªGòñGöÇ
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 273	Posted - 2014.11.17 04:05:00 - [26] - Quote Sir Snugglz wrote: I blow them up before they get the first shot in.... if there is 2 tanks i shoot one until i get my 75 WP and run... repeat for the entire match... unless one tank is stupid and leaves the other... then i go back to blowing them up one at a time. HAHAHAHAHHA BLOW THEM UP???? What do you think ADS is? It is a flying onikuma with a missile launchers. Assault dropships are underpowered, and i have tried this myself before commenting on topics like this. All you bitches commenting on this TRY FLYING ADS BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN p.s I don't believe you just blow them up Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres
DarthPlagueis TheWise 414	Posted - 2014.11.17 05:21:00 - [27] - Quote Atiim wrote: Mejt0 wrote: It takes 1 shoot (BFG) to take down madrugar. Give me one Madrugar fit that get's OHKed by a BFG. lol shield hardeners and ammo expansions of course! F*k this cash grab fix the shit that matters: unkillable uplinks, invisible remotes on null cannon hack panels, etc.
Jack Galen Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 4	Posted - 2014.11.17 09:16:00 - [28] - Quote Right. From an experienced in-game and IRL pilot's perspective: Being shot down by a tank is not a wrong thing. We are aerial vehicles. We are inherently structurally weak - a two shot railgun kill is not this awful thing that it is made out to be. Our strength is our speed and agility - keep moving. You don't hover when there is a tank on the field! If you are flying a STD DS or an ADS and haven't done a recon pass for AV (be it tanks, FGs or SLs) then you must accept that you take a huge risk. AV is now a real threat and you need to get used to that. Don't b*tch at the tanker for carrying out his/her role. It is what they are designed to do, and it is the reason that we pilots get such bad press. We give up survivability for the advantage of being airborne. FYI, if a tanker kills me with a railgun, then I either did something thick, or I give respect as the tanker has good aim!
shaman oga The Dunwich Horror 3205	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:00:00 - [29] - Quote 4 shotting bolas
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2605	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:18:00 - [30] - Quote To people saying "don't let a Tank get two shots on you!", this is what a two shot looks like. It was more than likely a glass cannon Tank that took down the OP. Before you can really react to the first hit, the second hit is already on the way. Yes, you can avoid it by not being as easy to hit but saying "run when you take the first hit" isn't really going to help in the situation. I will, however, go more in line with "it is not currently completely unfair." That kind of weapon would three shot an unhardened Madrugar fairly easily as well so it isn't just dropships that would be brought down by such a weapon in quick order. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 5071	Posted - 2014.11.17 12:55:00 - [31] - Quote Oh no, a tank actually got a bead on me and turned me into flaming wreckage. Given that HAVs cannot normally elevate their guns enough to fire upon, much less kill a dropship, I'm going to send my congratulations. To the tank driver. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Jack McReady Dust University Ivy League 1638	Posted - 2014.11.17 14:31:00 - [32] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Given that HAVs cannot normally elevate their guns enough to fire upon, much less kill a dropship hills and small bumps are your friend here. you will find plenty on the typical dust map


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