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XxGhazbaranxX
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:38:00 -
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Hello,
Many people know that the breach shotgun underperforms against regular shotgun by a large margin. Having 1/4 the clip, a significantly reduced RoF and only a negligeable amount of damage increase ( by usefullness not by % ). Even some scouts can tank it.
My suggestion is to make tge breach shotgun an execution/assasination weapon. Its father variant, the regular shotgun behaves like an assault weapon where the scout runs in and lights up the living dailights of 1, 2 and even 3 people at a time in a group. The breach shotgun should be a 1 shot one kill weapon with major setbacks. So here us my idea that might actually make the weapon worthwhile.
IDEA
- Reduce the clip to 1
- Double the damage of that single shot
- Double the reload time
REASONING
The state of the breach shotgun makes it so that using the regular variant is better 100% of the time. By ensuring that the first shot kills most suits we make it a viable assasination weapon that does not have the ability of sustained combat since its only one shot. This hinders the scouts ability to decimate large groups but grants him the ability to pick of specific targets.
BALANCE THOUGHT
- 1 shot ensure that the scout cannot take down large groups
- doubling the relaod time ensures that the group has time to set their defense forcing the scout to change his approach
- leaves the scout without a main weapon havong to rely on sidearms in pinch
- forces the scout to take out tactically sound targets instead of going in balls deap; i mean guns blazing and blasting two or three people.
- Creates an even more predatory playstyle than knives since it one shot and thats it.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:47:00 -
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I can't stand behind it being a shot kill all the time. I think it's better to give it more range and a lot less spread and tweak up the damage, but I don't think it needs a complete work around.
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XxGhazbaranxX
Endless Hatred
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Posted - 2014.11.09 21:54:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I can't stand behind it being a shot kill all the time. I think it's better to give it more range and a lot less spread and tweak up the damage, but I don't think it needs a complete work around.
Doubling the damage wont be a one shot kill. Many medium suits can withstand 2 shots from the breach shotgun depenting on the users range and accuracy. We also have to take into considerations kills per time spent on the battlefield and it would equate to less than the regular shotgun.
We also have to take into consideration that nova knives are on shot kill and can be spammed to hell. This variant cannot be spammed and are used at a relatively similar distance
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ImIvan
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Posted - 2014.11.10 01:52:00 -
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I used to use the breach all the time on minmatar mediums, (not anymore due to all the scans) and I though it was pretty good. Sure, I couldn't kill heavies with it, but all it took was a shot from my flaylock to finish them off.
I feel that all the breach needs is better drop off range
(EX. Currently it does 100% damage from 4m and 0% at 10, make the damage drop off slower, 100% damage at 4m and 0% at 16m.)
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2806
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Posted - 2014.11.10 03:04:00 -
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What about heavies?
The only reason the regular shotgun is so prevalent now is because it is the hardest direct counter to heavy spam short of nova knives. And, it works against high numbers of medium frames and scouts as well.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
920
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Posted - 2014.11.10 03:46:00 -
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No. Hell no.
If people want an instagib gun on their god suits, they can grow a pair and use the Plasma Cannon.
If Breach Shotguns were like this, the game would be an even worse Scout hell than it is.
1.)Decloak
2.)Boom
3.)Spray with SMG if target yet lives.
4.)Rinse and Repeat
5.)Profit
Give it a slightly faster fire rate. Make it actually feel like a double barreled shotgun.
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I-Shayz-I
I----------I
5012
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Posted - 2014.11.10 09:21:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Give it a slightly faster fire rate. Make it actually feel like a double barreled shotgun.
THIS
Longer range, more accurate, fire rate as fast as you can pull the trigger, but then a slow reload.
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.11.10 09:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Give it a slightly faster fire rate. Make it actually feel like a double barreled shotgun.
THIS Longer range, more accurate, fire rate as fast as you can pull the trigger, but then a slow reload.
I wouldn't go so far to be as fast as you can pull the trigger.
Faster than the standard one sure, but not "babam" dead.
Maybe 150 rpm. That's still insane Alpha DPS. Over 1300 actually.
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Kuruld Sengar
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.10 09:32:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Give it a slightly faster fire rate. Make it actually feel like a double barreled shotgun.
THIS Longer range, more accurate, fire rate as fast as you can pull the trigger, but then a slow reload. I wouldn't go so far to be as fast as you can pull the trigger. Faster than the standard one sure, but not "babam" dead. Maybe 150 rpm. That's still insane Alpha DPS. Over 1300 actually.
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