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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
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Posted - 2014.11.09 13:25:00 -
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Disclaimer: i use RE, i use proxy mines, i use everything which makes boom and i like it.
Not problems:
Problems:
Solution to problems:
- Treat RE as equipments, you have 3/4/5 of them? Stop, if you want more go to a supply depot or die.
(CCP should fix carried number to be 3/4/5)
- This is the a bigger problem, also tied to lag, when you drop an equipment, normally it slide on floor then it become ready to do whatever it's supposed to do, if there's no lag, you see the equipment almost in the same position where people drop it, when there is lag (often), you see equipment in a place, then the server update the position of the equipment.
If a red logi decide to kill you with nanohive it's not a great problem, but when you have to avoid RE it becomes a real problem.
Solution can be to not let RE be dropped so far, but give a effect similar to AV nades (1-2 meters range) to let people use them on vehicles.
I've named the "Shaman" proto Minmatar logi
Don't be envy
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
217
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Posted - 2014.11.09 13:29:00 -
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Just needs a small update to visuals. So many times I see the re thrown, I'm like AHA good luck with that matey, as I jump back in jubilation, only to find it's no where near where it showed it landing and has actually teleported to a random spot that gets me every time.
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Sequal Rise
Les Desanusseurs
183
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Posted - 2014.11.09 13:34:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:So many times I see the re thrown, I'm like AHA good luck with that matey, as I jump back in jubilation, only to find it's no where near where it showed it landing and has actually teleported to a random spot that gets me every time.
This.
That's unbearable.
Take out all forms of scans and you'll see how great Dust can be.
Scrubs will cry, good players will love it.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
919
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Posted - 2014.11.09 13:56:00 -
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main issue is RE's being able to be thrown further than grenades as well as then sliding along the floor, pretty soon we'll be able to stand at redline and just hurl RE's down main street to 'A' all we need then in the 'Sweeper' suit to brush to lane as its going to hit the score zone
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
777
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Posted - 2014.11.09 14:26:00 -
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Over exaggerated , been kill by a death frizbee twice in two years, BE AWARE!
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3086
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Posted - 2014.11.09 14:29:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Over exaggerated , been kill by a death frizbee twice in two years, BE AWARE!
Probably you're the one launching them...
I've named the "Shaman" proto Minmatar logi
Don't be envy
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
1735
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Posted - 2014.11.09 14:29:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Disclaimer: i use RE, i use proxy mines, i use everything which makes boom and i like it.
Not problems: Problems: Solution to problems:
- Treat RE as equipments, you have 3/4/5 of them? Stop, if you want more go to a supply depot or die.
(CCP should fix carried number to be 3/4/5)
- This is the a bigger problem, also tied to lag, when you drop an equipment, normally it slide on floor then it become ready to do whatever it's supposed to do, if there's no lag, you see the equipment almost in the same position where people drop it, when there is lag (often), you see equipment in a place, then the server update the position of the equipment.
If a red logi decide to kill you with nanohive it's not a great problem, but when you have to avoid RE it becomes a real problem.
Solution can be to not let RE be dropped so far, but give a effect similar to AV nades (1-2 meters range) to let people use them on vehicles.
stupid thing is 3/4/5 "carried" yet "max active" is 4/5/6 it dosnt make sence.
atleast frisbee RE isnt as bad as it was in 1.7 and early 1.8.. frisbee spam is a problem tho iirc its 1 hive to 3 RE at basic/adv where as proto its like 6 to 8 RE depending on how many nanite clusters are in it.
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jade gamester
Vengeance Unbound
RISE of LEGION
25
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:18:00 -
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Ohhhh played an ambush 50-50 we won bup jade tech was on the other team and had like 26-3 or something re kills. man it annoyed me that a gal scout was just spamming then, no need for gun game
King of contradiction all hail kingthunderbolt o7
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
751
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:42:00 -
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REs are classified as equipment, but they re-stock like weapon ammunition when we are near supply depots or nanohives. Slight contradiction in design right there. Make them behave like equipment.
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
375
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Posted - 2014.11.09 15:59:00 -
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I rarely get hit with RE's, most scouts are too impatient to use them preferring to run straight at you decloak and shotgun. Lets fix that first. Let's fix ewar first, then that scout might not have a chance to get so close to you.
EDIT: I also agree with Saber, it's in equipment slot and equipment doesn't restock on a nanohive... |
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Mike Ox Bigger
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
375
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:02:00 -
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jade gamester wrote:Ohhhh played an ambush 50-50 we won bup jade tech was on the other team and had like 26-3 or something re kills. man it annoyed me that a gal scout was just spamming then, no need for gun game
There were probably globs of people standing together in a tight crowd, I do this sometimes. I'll just run in drop an RE and run away and see multiple +50's. I do this regularly and I never cloak up when running scout people need to watch their flanks more. |
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Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
358
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:08:00 -
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REs should be 1/2/3 not 3/4/5 |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2706
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:23:00 -
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I'd be fine if REs had the same deploy animation as Proximity REs, really a simple change, a really simple change and a literal copy-paste of existing code.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Luna McDuffing
COALICION LATINA
Top Men.
86
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:26:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:Just needs a small update to visuals. So many times I see the re thrown, I'm like AHA good luck with that matey, as I jump back in jubilation, only to find it's no where near where it showed it landing and has actually teleported to a random spot that gets me every time.
I've been a victim of this problem waaaayyyyy too often. I clearly see that the scout places the RE a few feet in front of me. So, o back up like a mile away and BANG!!!! it stills gets me. One thing I would like to learn is how the eck do they hide thse thing in objectives. There are many times where I don't have a granade but, I need to hack an objective. I look around, look up, look down, behid in short anywhere you can think off. It all seems to be clear and then BANG!!! it kills me. I swear they must be exploding a bug of some sort where they hide it behind the asset as in inside the the wall or something.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
5723
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:34:00 -
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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:main issue is RE's being able to be thrown further than grenades
Absolute lie.
If you are standing on a ground level, look up and throw a grenade at someone standing on an upper level. Now try and throw an RE at him.
It is not possible!
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
245
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Posted - 2014.11.09 16:48:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:I rarely get hit with RE's, most scouts are too impatient to use them preferring to run straight at you decloak and shotgun. Lets fix that first. Let's fix ewar first, then that scout might not have a chance to get so close to you.
EDIT: I also agree with Saber, it's in equipment slot and equipment doesn't restock on a nanohive...
though I agree they should act like equipment, I think the bigger problem is that there is no effective counter to scout ewar other than running a scout fit.
HMG heavies have a boatload of counters:
- any heavy suit with either hmg or forge
- plasma cannon
- REs
- run to get out of hmg weapon range and kill with rifle of your choice
The only counters to scout ewar
- gal logi with proto scanners (but really a pretty ineffective counter. see below**)
- other scout suits
** active scanners are crazy useless against scouts in non-gal suits. I evade scans in my min logi suit with no dampening modules equiped simply because I have speced into the dampening core skill. pathetic. Even if you are running a gal logi with proto scans, the cool down period means you either have to run scans in most of your equipment slots or be blind most of the time.
medium suits cannot stack enough percision mods to see scouts passively. A single complex precision mod on a logi suit (which has better precision than an assault suit) will still not let you see a gal or cal scout running no dampening modules. Two complex mods will not let you see a cal/gal scout running one comp dampening mod.
Every tactic should have multiple counters. Until there is an effective way for medium suits to counter ewar, scouts will be imbalanced, which is IMO the reason why RE spam is so effective and prevalent (and why I sometimes see half of both teams in skirmish and dom running scout suits).
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Her Chosen
Grade No.2
37
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:05:00 -
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I can throw an RE 15m whenever I want.
REs need serious re-work.
Just about everything about them is wrong and unbalanced. |
axis alpha
Red Star.
EoN.
349
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:20:00 -
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Its rare I see this happening. You must be running into those really good super scouts I've heard of.........
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Powerh8er
The Rainbow Effect
516
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:28:00 -
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Re as cqc weapon, one of the most unlogical things in dust.
It should be used against vehicles, structures and as clever booby traps, instead they are more commonly used to throw(!) at dudes.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
925
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Posted - 2014.11.09 17:41:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:main issue is RE's being able to be thrown further than grenades Absolute lie. If you are standing on a ground level, look up and throw a grenade at someone standing on an upper level. Now try and throw an RE at him. It is not possible!
Easy
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3166
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Posted - 2014.11.13 20:56:00 -
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Bump, i'm ******* tired of seeing RE dropping on point A and exploding on point B.
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1719
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Posted - 2014.11.13 21:54:00 -
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Her Chosen wrote:I can throw an RE 15m whenever I want.
This explains why most of the time I get killed by RE's the killed by screen shows the guy is ~15m away.
I'm surprised Maynard hasn't been assassinated yet.
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