DUST Search - New study/goal (in pubs):

G Felix wrote:

Jathniel wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true.

I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player.

I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault

Better off running a dedicated study squad. I'll join you if you like.

A whole group is better off confirming who was killed, then not.

There are about 3600 Dusters on right now.
Your study group will need to play about 112 matches to get reasonable figures, assuming full 32 player matches, and assuming a different set of players each match. (can't control, so this will pollute your data, but the numbers won't be too off)
Best bet, make it a corp thing.

Organize 3 separate squads, that will run each game mode separately, Skirm, Bush, and Dom.
Each squad does about 37 matches each.

Get your averages from that.

This all seems very, very labor intensive for what will be a very hit and miss endeavor. CCP must have this information available through their servers in some form, why not just as CCP Scotsman or another Dev if they'll cough some numbers up?

Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.

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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2790	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:13:00 - [1] - Quote I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Meisterjager Jagermeister Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 489	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:17:00 - [2] - Quote Remind me not to play against you. AKA - StarVenger
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 140	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:20:00 - [3] - Quote I'll remember to kill you before you can see me :D also /)_/) (. .)n U(")(") Become one with the dustbunny "That's what I like to see, 0 kills and still #1!" MPT Vet. 514 lottery tickets half off!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2790	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:23:00 - [4] - Quote sir RAVEN WING wrote: I'll remember to kill you before you can see me :D also /)_/) (. .)n U(")(") Become one with the dustbunny I see or hear everything. There is literally nothing in the game that can get the drop on me unless Im otherwise engaged in fighting someone. Thats what happens when you wear headphones. Just today, I was uncloaked in a twin FlayLOL mk.0 scout hacking a blaster turret, I heard a scout sneak up on me (decloak sound), heard knives charging, and turned around and blapped him before he could even hit me. I think you may have some trouble, but I wish you the best of luck Also, ill just see your suit anyways, silly "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Henrietta Unknown Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 455	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:31:00 - [5] - Quote GL with that. I DO actually hope you can catch us some data, but you'll most likely not find the sneakiest of scouts, or that sniper back there (but if you do know there's one, +1 for you). 16+ games woo! Give the Magsex some love.
Cass Caul 1489	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:34:00 - [6] - Quote Capture Card? Doubt you'll get it right without one. Also people do use more than a single suit in a match. On Hiatus. This is my smartphone alt
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 4456	Posted - 2014.11.09 06:43:00 - [7] - Quote Good luck paying enough attention to suit stats before you die/kill them.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13528	Posted - 2014.11.09 07:36:00 - [8] - Quote Your data would be too limited to be taken seriously. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 190	Posted - 2014.11.09 07:54:00 - [9] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 40% scouts, 25% assault, 15% logistics, 10% sentinel,10% commando Fixed your statistics. Those were silly. Scouts are still an infection. People are still exploiting assaults Logistics, being the most solid role based suit is still being neglected and the scout issue doesn't help it. Sentinel players are probably fed up with scouts, but still play. And commandos I see very very little of them.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2462	Posted - 2014.11.09 08:01:00 - [10] - Quote Atiim wrote: Your data would be too limited to be taken seriously. As well as people don't necessarily have to stay in a suit. I will fly my ADS (poorly) to take out drop uplinks of roofs, run a BPO logi to drop uplinks, do a Prototype Scout as my "get into the enemy back line and throw down uplinks", or if I am doing an Economy Day just a Basic Assault (and shoot people with uplinks.) I could even do that all in a single match so who is to say "this guy is a Scout"? "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"

LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 775	Posted - 2014.11.09 09:04:00 - [11] - Quote Gotta catch them all? Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 5312	Posted - 2014.11.09 09:35:00 - [12] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault I am tempted to do the same as youGÇª except it will be more likely and easier for me to be killed by every team member on the opposing team. MOAR Ladders
Fizzer XCIV Heaven's Lost Property 907	Posted - 2014.11.09 10:14:00 - [13] - Quote My guess. 20% Militia/Basic Frames 3-4 per team 27.5% Scouts 4-5 per team 17.5% Sentinel ~3 per team 15% Assault 2-3 per team 10% Logi 1-2 per team 5% Commando 0-1 per team Swag-suit4lyfe!
Jebus McKing lol Proto 890	Posted - 2014.11.09 10:26:00 - [14] - Quote My teams always seem to be filled with mostly starter fits/militia medium frames... Assault / Logi / Sentinel / Scout // @JebusMcKing
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1091	Posted - 2014.11.09 11:05:00 - [15] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault Wouldnt it be easier to let every player on the other team kill you instead. jk jk I would say your guess is about right but that really depends on your play style and suit choice, I have started running all heavy or scout to keep up with the tide and would argue something more in the area of 10% MLT 35% HEAVY 35% SCOUT 10% ASSAULT 5% LOGI 5% COMMANDO
Mejt0 Puff n Puffers 487	Posted - 2014.11.09 12:45:00 - [16] - Quote In one game you will count 80% militia, in another 90% proto scouts/assaults. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 142	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:24:00 - [17] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: sir RAVEN WING wrote: I'll remember to kill you before you can see me :D also /)_/) (. .)n U(")(") Become one with the dustbunny I see or hear everything. There is literally nothing in the game that can get the drop on me unless Im otherwise engaged in fighting someone. Thats what happens when you wear headphones. Just today, I was uncloaked in a twin FlayLOL mk.0 scout hacking a blaster turret, I heard a scout sneak up on me (decloak sound), heard knives charging, and turned around and blapped him before he could even hit me. I think you may have some trouble, but I wish you the best of luck Also, ill just see your suit anyways, silly How do you know that's what I use? I run all suits now and my role normally is Logistics (Yet I wear a Caldari Assault.) "That's what I like to see, 0 kills and still #1!" MPT Vet. 514 lottery tickets half off!
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 269	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:28:00 - [18] - Quote Ways to cheat in dust: Bright LCD tv to see cloaks Modded DS3 for dem semi autos sound headphones for hearing sneaky-uppers 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) `- Open Beta Vet - 31mil sp -` R.I.P Dust 514
sir RAVEN WING Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 142	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:31:00 - [19] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Ways to cheat in dust: Bright LCD tv to see cloaks ~~Modded DS3 for dem semi autos~~ Buy the assault version sound headphones for hearing sneaky-uppers FTFY "That's what I like to see, 0 kills and still #1!" MPT Vet. 514 lottery tickets half off!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13536	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:37:00 - [20] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Modded DS3 for dem semi autos Unless you're using SCRs, a Turbo button is the best way to guarantee that you won't hit your target. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

Jathniel G I A N T 1246	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:48:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault Better off running a dedicated study squad. I'll join you if you like. A whole group is better off confirming who was killed, then not. There are about 3600 Dusters on right now. Your study group will need to play about 112 matches to get reasonable figures, assuming full 32 player matches, and assuming a different set of players each match. (can't control, so this will pollute your data, but the numbers won't be too off) Best bet, make it a corp thing. Organize 3 separate squads, that will run each game mode separately, Skirm, Bush, and Dom. Each squad does about 37 matches each. Get your averages from that. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1092	Posted - 2014.11.09 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Ways to cheat in dust: Bright LCD tv to see cloaks Modded DS3 for dem semi autos sound headphones for hearing sneaky-uppers HEHEHEHE I have a 4k TV and Turtle Beach PX51s Modded controllers are for scrubs.
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 4497	Posted - 2014.11.09 21:37:00 - [23] - Quote I'm either in a Fw Ak.0 assault or a scrub quafe heavy bpo. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
Louis Domi Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 765	Posted - 2014.11.10 00:11:00 - [24] - Quote Lloyd Orfay wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 40% scouts, 25% assault, 15% logistics, 10% sentinel,10% commando Fixed your statistics. Those were silly. Scouts are still an infection. People are still exploiting assaults Logistics, being the most solid role based suit is still being neglected and the scout issue doesn't help it. Sentinel players are probably fed up with scouts, but still play. And commandos I see very very little of them. Cass also has a very true statement. Uhh why are assualts and logis higher than heavy suits? switch that ****. More like 30% SG scout 20% other type of scout 35% heavy suits 10% assualts 5% logis
DarthPlagueis TheWise 341	Posted - 2014.11.10 00:13:00 - [25] - Quote You can also count how many times I stop you from killing one of my teammates with my Quafe sentinel if you want. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
G Felix 121	Posted - 2014.11.10 00:42:00 - [26] - Quote Jathniel wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault Better off running a dedicated study squad. I'll join you if you like. A whole group is better off confirming who was killed, then not. There are about 3600 Dusters on right now. Your study group will need to play about 112 matches to get reasonable figures, assuming full 32 player matches, and assuming a different set of players each match. (can't control, so this will pollute your data, but the numbers won't be too off) Best bet, make it a corp thing. Organize 3 separate squads, that will run each game mode separately, Skirm, Bush, and Dom. Each squad does about 37 matches each. Get your averages from that. This all seems very, very labor intensive for what will be a very hit and miss endeavor. CCP must have this information available through their servers in some form, why not just as CCP Scotsman or another Dev if they'll cough some numbers up? Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
Jathniel G I A N T 1251	Posted - 2014.11.10 09:18:00 - [27] - Quote G Felix wrote: Jathniel wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I have decided that I will now kill every single player on the enemy team at least once and record what suit they were wearing when I killed them to prove some of the ratios of drop suits that I perceive to be true. I will edit this with games where I manage to find every single player. I am expecting a ratio of about 25% militia frames, 25% heavy/sentinel, 10% Logi, 10% commando, 15% scout, 15% assault Better off running a dedicated study squad. I'll join you if you like. A whole group is better off confirming who was killed, then not. There are about 3600 Dusters on right now. Your study group will need to play about 112 matches to get reasonable figures, assuming full 32 player matches, and assuming a different set of players each match. (can't control, so this will pollute your data, but the numbers won't be too off) Best bet, make it a corp thing. Organize 3 separate squads, that will run each game mode separately, Skirm, Bush, and Dom. Each squad does about 37 matches each. Get your averages from that. This all seems very, very labor intensive for what will be a very hit and miss endeavor. CCP must have this information available through their servers in some form, why not just as CCP Scotsman or another Dev if they'll cough some numbers up? Well, he wanted to do the labor. I just proposed a way to make it easier... on him individually anyway. It really would be nice if we could see developer metrics. I'd love to see how people interpret the data. lol Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
xavier zor G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 192	Posted - 2014.11.10 09:24:00 - [28] - Quote My Predictions: %15 Logistics 20% Sentinal 15% Assaults 25% Militia 15% Scouts 10% Commando Highest plasma cannon kill: 132 metres


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