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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3077
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Posted - 2014.11.08 21:58:00 -
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Let's compare light frames, medium frames and heavy frames, to vehicles.
All this vehicles have an intend role.
Scooter is personal transport, car is both for personal transport and goods transport and tractor is made for work.
All those vehicles have their own attributes, scooter is very agile, but it's not made to carry excessive burden, car can be burdened but over a certain limit it will lose speed and confort, tractor is made to be burdened, it's slow and will remain slow.
HP penalty should work in the same logic way.
Add burden to a light frame should decrease its performance more than add burden to a heavy frame.
Movement penalty should be something like this:
Light - 2.5 x
Medium - current
Heavy - 0.5 x
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4706
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:12:00 -
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I am unclear what you are suggesting here.
EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
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Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
905
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:25:00 -
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I think he's suggesting that armor plates should have a higher speed penalty on light frames and a lower penalty on heavy frames.
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3077
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Posted - 2014.11.08 22:27:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:I am unclear what you are suggesting here.
To give a greater movement penalty to light frame and lesser movement penalty to heavy frame.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
3325
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:18:00 -
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Resistance plating is the answer to everything
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shaman oga
The Dunwich Horror
3078
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Posted - 2014.11.09 00:45:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Resistance plating is the answer to everything
No, resistance plating is a plus, current values are balanced on medium frame dropsuit, but heavy suffer to much of plate penalties and light do not suffer, even if they tank they keep a speed higher than a medium frame.
e.g. :
gal scout (movement speed 5.45m/s [Walk], sprint speed 8.01 [Sprint] ) 2 adv armor plates penalty of -4% & -4%
[W] 5.02 m/s
[S] 7.38 m/s
penalty of 2.5x on plates
[W] 4.41 m/s
[S] 6.4 m/s
penalty of 2x on plates
[W] 4.61 m/s
[S] 6.77 m/s
This would be enough to make undesirable tank a light frame.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2507
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Posted - 2014.11.09 05:46:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Resistance plating is the answer to everything
Resistance mods only encourage more brick tanking from suits of all tiers, honestly I think they're a bad idea.
Scouts need to stack more ehp to make them viable and heavies can reach much higher values without as much penalty (including more effective repair).
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
14321
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Posted - 2014.11.09 06:04:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Resistance plating is the answer to everything Resistance mods only encourage more brick tanking from suits of all tiers, honestly I think they're a bad idea. Scouts need to stack more ehp to make them viable and heavies can reach much higher values without as much penalty (including more effective repair).
Resistance Modules are the bread and butter of the Amarr. As long as they provide specific damage type resistances and no EHP gains they should be fine.
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BL4CKST4R
La Muerte Eterna
Dark Taboo
3326
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Posted - 2014.11.09 11:48:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Resistance plating is the answer to everything
Scouts can't use resistance plates, their hp pool is to low
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
4716
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Posted - 2014.11.09 12:16:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Resistance plating is the answer to everything Resistance mods only encourage more brick tanking from suits of all tiers, honestly I think they're a bad idea. Scouts need to stack more ehp to make them viable and heavies can reach much higher values without as much penalty (including more effective repair). Resistance Modules are the bread and butter of the Amarr. As long as they provide specific damage type resistances and no EHP gains they should be fine.
EHP includes resistance ghost HP.
Raw HP is the numbers of actual shield HP and armor HP on your HUD
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