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ebronian flacktoider
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:00:00 -
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Should be scoutshotgun514 because thats all anyone runs. Op suit with a rediculous op weapon. Congrats on the update though |
Bayeth Mal
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:08:00 -
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Considering in previous posts you've said this game was best in 1.6, you're clearly a Medium suit player as all other suits and all vehicles were completely subservient to Slayer Logis and even Generic Assaults during that time...
Not that you're biased or anything.
We'll bang, OK?
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G Felix
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:21:00 -
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Everyone gets a turn. Scouts were paper mache nonsense for the fist handful of builds in uprising. Logis had a day in the sun, dropships too. Assaults won't be top dog again until approximately 2.5ish. Buckle up for laser rifles, that was a rough ride the first time around.
Dust can be frustrating. (Gò»°Gûí°)Gò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+)
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ebronian flacktoider
Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 08:43:00 -
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Indeed i have said 1.6 was the best time because it was. It was pretty much even, logis did their job keeping heavies alive, heavies did their job pushing forward with the assaults and scouts doing what they did best infiltrate behind the enemy with spawn points, tanks wernt easy to kill like they are now. But going into any type of match where you look around and your team is 95% scouts then when you get killed its by a scout with either 2 things - shotgun or remotes. And seen as there isnt a spawn shield no more a 200k + suit gets taken out by an remote when you spawn on a link isnt exactly fun. So i stand by my previous posts that 1.6 was the best time because it was. |
Bayeth Mal
Opus Arcana Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:14:00 -
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I played PC in 1.6. Heavies were rare and scouts were non existent, it was nowhere close to balanced. I had whole pub match runs where I pointed out to my squad mates that I was the only player on either team not running a medium suit.
The only suit in a worse position was the Commando, that was like spotting a unicorn.
Are sentinels and scouts in too strong a position now? Yeah definitely, but if 1.6 is your goal than you're talking out your ass.
We'll bang, OK?
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Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Capital Punishment.
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:23:00 -
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If the Shotgun is truly overpowered, I am curious why it was not extensively used pre-1.8
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:50:00 -
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1.7 was the best update. Even with the HAVs from hell. I'd gladly take it back.
Scrambler Pistols were still good. Cloaks didn't get exist.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Fizzer XCIV
Heaven's Lost Property
855
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Posted - 2014.11.07 09:51:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:If the Shotgun is truly overpowered, I am curious why it was not extensively used pre-1.8 Because the SG is fine. But when its used in conjunction with scout passive scans and cloaks, it becomes a nightmare gun.
Swag-suit4lyfe!
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Mahal Daj
Mahal Tactical Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.07 18:15:00 -
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I sometimes run a las0r/flaylock scout with eWar... why... because I cry for days past.
See my Post on Crashes: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2413361#post2413361
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:18:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:If the Shotgun is truly overpowered, I am curious why it was not extensively used pre-1.8 Because the SG is fine. But when its used in conjunction with scout passive scans and cloaks, it becomes a nightmare gun. Precisely. Scouts having beastly passive EWAR abilities makes the shotgun the ultimate "backstab" weapon.
My advice to you, playa...
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:33:00 -
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If shotguns were OP I wouldn't laugh at the occasional sentinel I see using one.
We don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:35:00 -
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Did you consider that each of the items individually are not overpowered, but it is only when all items are present that presents itself in a merc being overpowered?
Probably not.
That is why people keep asking for nerfs that won't change anything.
Ripley Riley wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:If the Shotgun is truly overpowered, I am curious why it was not extensively used pre-1.8 Because the SG is fine. But when its used in conjunction with scout passive scans and cloaks, it becomes a nightmare gun. Precisely. Scouts having beastly passive EWAR abilities makes the shotgun the ultimate "backstab" weapon. Scouts can't have passive scans AND cloaks anymore.
They nerfed scan range remember?
I mean, they completely negated a bunch of other scout roles just to try and fix this one problem, that didn't end up being fixed.
How about we ask for some more nerfs that won't do anything and continue to erode balance instead of actually identifying and fixing the real problems? That has worked so well before...
1.9 Where cloaked scouts give way to tanked scouts. Problem solved?
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:38:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:If shotguns were OP I wouldn't laugh at the occasional sentinel I see using one. This.
If shotgun is truly OP, then why are there people using different guns? Same with the scout suit. 1.8 has been out for almost a year and everyone in the community could've changed to scouts by then. |
Ivy Zalinto
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.07 19:46:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:If the Shotgun is truly overpowered, I am curious why it was not extensively used pre-1.8 Because the SG is fine. But when its used in conjunction with scout passive scans and cloaks, it becomes a nightmare gun. Precisely. Scouts having beastly passive EWAR abilities makes the shotgun the ultimate "backstab" weapon. Isnt that kinda the job of the scout?
A hit and run suit? In older games it suggests a rogue with backstab honestly...Especially when were using knives...can we get bonus damage to backstabs for nova knives? o.o
Dedicated Stealth Scout.
Pay attention to your surroundings or your getting 2 in the back of the head.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.07 20:04:00 -
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ebronian flacktoider wrote:Indeed i have said 1.6 was the best time because it was. It was pretty much even, logis did their job keeping heavies alive, heavies did their job pushing forward with the assaults and scouts doing what they did best infiltrate behind the enemy with spawn points, tanks wernt easy to kill like they are now. But going into any type of match where you look around and your team is 95% scouts then when you get killed its by a scout with either 2 things - shotgun or remotes. And seen as there isnt a spawn shield no more a 200k + suit gets taken out by an remote when you spawn on a link isnt exactly fun. So i stand by my previous posts that 1.6 was the best time because it was. You and I remember 1.6 very VERY differently.
Scouts were useless Heavies were bad Shotgun was useless Nova Knives were useless Sniper was useless Everything except the Almighty AR was useless Commandos were almost as useless as scouts The Assault was meh The Logi was the Almighty slayer and Logi and Scout and Heavy wrapped up in one Perma scan was everywhere, with quantum scanners, and a focused 360 perma lolscanning everything
There was no team play outside of "Spawn in a Logi and kill them all".
There are no matches where any team is 95% scouts. The most Ive ever seen is 9, and that was when I was Q-Syncing FW with a bunch of fellow Minja's.
I find it very funny that people get so mad when they get killed by a worse suit than the one they're using. Its hilarious.
"Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.11.07 20:15:00 -
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Bayeth Mal wrote:Considering in previous posts you've said this game was best in 1.6, you're clearly a Medium suit player as all other suits and all vehicles were completely subservient to Slayer Logis and even Generic Assaults during that time...
Not that you're biased or anything.
I run scout. I disagree with the scout shotty thing. It is boosted by the cloak and therefore more ppl are running it than would or did otherwise.
The ninja assassin thing does not need specific support as some kind of official role. It is better as emergent game play.
I want the scout to be supported as a scout. Buff that CCP.
Boycott Black Thursday!
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