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DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14830	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:00:00 - [1] - Quote I'm pretty sure I know what is what, but I could be wrong. Could you guys clarify which weapons apply bonus damage to what? Forge Gun - ARMOR Swarm Launcher - ARMOR Plasma Cannon - SHIELD Large Railgun - ARMOR Small Railgun - ARMOR Large Blaster - SHIELD Large Missile - ARMOR Small Missile - ARMOR Remote Explosives - ARMOR I left out Small Blasters because of its terrible efficiency vs vehicles. So, who wants to sell me on why almost all practical forms of AV do their bonus damage to Armor? Can someone please attempt to explain the reasoning for this discrepancy? Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
KILL3R H3LLH0UND Nox Lupos 61	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:03:00 - [2] - Quote EXTRA DMG Forge Gun ARMOR Swarm Launcher ARMOR Plasma Cannon SHIELD Large Railgun ARMOR Small Railgun ARMOR Large Blaster SHIELD Large Missile ARMOR Small Missile ARMOR Remote Explosives ARMOR Caldari things and explosive things do more to armor. Explosives are +50-50 to armor/shield (that's why swarms hurt armor way more then shield) Rocking all skills V, Scout Mk.0, and may I say, "CORE LOCUS GRENADES ARE AMAZING" BPO collector.
Savage Mangler Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 195	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:03:00 - [3] - Quote Forge, swarms, rails, missiles, RE's = Armour Blasters and PLC's = Shields EDIT: Damn you guys with your keyboards, using a tablet to type is so damn slow. -YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED- "Good, then they'll know who killed them." Salvation...through Annihilation
Dingleburt Bangledack 309	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:05:00 - [4] - Quote Forge Gun - Armor Swarm Launcher - Armor Plasma Cannon - Shield Large Railgun - Armor Small Railgun - Armor Large Blaster - Shield Large Missile - Armor Small Missile - Armor Remote Explosives - Armor
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14209	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:06:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm pretty sure I know what is what, but I could be wrong. Could you guys clarify which weapons apply bonus damage to what? Forge Gun - Armour Swarm Launcher - Armour Plasma Cannon - Shields Large Railgun - Armour Small Railgun - Armour Large Blaster - Shields Large Missile - Armour Small Missile - Amour Remote Explosives - Armour I left out Small Blasters because of its terrible efficiency vs vehicles. But you already knew the answer to these questions or am I too bold in that assumption? GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14830	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:08:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I'm pretty sure I know what is what, but I could be wrong. Could you guys clarify which weapons apply bonus damage to what? Forge Gun - Armour Swarm Launcher - Armour Plasma Cannon - Shields Large Railgun - Armour Small Railgun - Armour Large Blaster - Shields Large Missile - Armour Small Missile - Amour Remote Explosives - Armour I left out Small Blasters because of its terrible efficiency vs vehicles. But you already knew the answer to these questions or am I too bold in that assumption? I had a good idea, like I mentioned I was pretty sure I knew what was what. Just beating a dead horse here and wondering why AV is so stacked against Armor. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Lloyd Orfay SHAKING BABIES FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 165	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:22:00 - [7] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm pretty sure I know what is what, but I could be wrong. Could you guys clarify which weapons apply bonus damage to what? Forge Gun - ARMOR Swarm Launcher - ARMOR Plasma Cannon - SHIELD Large Railgun - ARMOR Small Railgun - ARMOR Large Blaster - SHIELD Large Missile - ARMOR Small Missile - ARMOR Remote Explosives - ARMOR I left out Small Blasters because of its terrible efficiency vs vehicles. So, who wants to sell me on why almost all practical forms of AV do their bonus damage to Armor? Can someone please attempt to explain the reasoning for this discrepancy? A lot of things have been overlooked, and that makes imbalanced discrepencies in the game such as this.
Magnus Amadeuss Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1210	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:25:00 - [8] - Quote You must be wondering where: Heavy Amarr AV Light amarr AV Heavy gallente AV Small Amarr turrets Large Amarr turrets amarr grenades are then. That's why there is a discrepancy. Basically, Amarr as a race has been neglected more than any other (and it is not even really close in Dust 514, and it shows. EWAR tool
DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14833	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:29:00 - [9] - Quote Magnus Amadeuss wrote: You must be wondering where: Heavy Amarr AV Light amarr AV Heavy gallente AV Small Amarr turrets Large Amarr turrets amarr grenades are then. That's why there is a discrepancy. Basically, Amarr as a race has been neglected more than any other (and it is not even really close in Dust 514, and it shows. Well, not putting in assets to the game isn't really an excuse for lopsided balance. They need to re address their system if they have no desire to create racial symmetry (they have no desire to create racial symmetry) so that way it's a little more even across the board. Otherwise you create imbalances in the meta. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14210	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:37:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: You must be wondering where: Heavy Amarr AV Light amarr AV Heavy gallente AV Small Amarr turrets Large Amarr turrets amarr grenades are then. That's why there is a discrepancy. Basically, Amarr as a race has been neglected more than any other (and it is not even really close in Dust 514, and it shows. Well, not putting in assets to the game isn't really an excuse for lopsided balance. They need to re address their system if they have no desire to create racial symmetry (they have no desire to create racial symmetry) so that way it's a little more even across the board. Otherwise you create imbalances in the meta. Yet had the content been in the game the meta might have been balanced. CCP cannot throw out established mechanics derived from EVE otherwise they risk creating another imbalance when content is added. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko

DUST Fiend Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 14833	Posted - 2014.11.05 06:38:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Magnus Amadeuss wrote: You must be wondering where: Heavy Amarr AV Light amarr AV Heavy gallente AV Small Amarr turrets Large Amarr turrets amarr grenades are then. That's why there is a discrepancy. Basically, Amarr as a race has been neglected more than any other (and it is not even really close in Dust 514, and it shows. Well, not putting in assets to the game isn't really an excuse for lopsided balance. They need to re address their system if they have no desire to create racial symmetry (they have no desire to create racial symmetry) so that way it's a little more even across the board. Otherwise you create imbalances in the meta. Yet had the content been in the game the meta might have been balanced. CCP cannot throw out established mechanics derived from EVE otherwise they risk creating another imbalance when content is added. So the solution is years of imbalance in the hopes that some day they get their act straight? Actually, sounds about right, given how the game has progressed. Ten Year Plan (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens Capital Punishment. 2353	Posted - 2014.11.05 07:14:00 - [12] - Quote It probably stated as a "well, Shields are weaker but they have a resistance to AV." Now with all the Salami Tactic nerfs that have happened to Armor, Shields start to be more dominant. That was the big thing when the Triple Staggered Hardener death wagon was murdering everything; "sure we have more EHP and Repair than you but you have a natural resistance to all AV" (this was before PLC). Then the Power Grid was hit, then the Hardeners, then the Repair Rate, and then the AV damage was buffed. It isn't like any of those things weren't warranted but added over time it starts to hurt. I still say that it is not too much worse for Armor. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Aeon Amadi Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 6961	Posted - 2014.11.05 08:22:00 - [13] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I'm pretty sure I know what is what, but I could be wrong. Could you guys clarify which weapons apply bonus damage to what? Forge Gun - ARMOR Swarm Launcher - ARMOR Plasma Cannon - SHIELD Large Railgun - ARMOR Small Railgun - ARMOR Large Blaster - SHIELD Large Missile - ARMOR Small Missile - ARMOR Remote Explosives - ARMOR I left out Small Blasters because of its terrible efficiency vs vehicles. So, who wants to sell me on why almost all practical forms of AV do their bonus damage to Armor? Can someone please attempt to explain the reasoning for this discrepancy? Because Caldari favoritism. This is nothing new. Legion Transparency Me and My Girl


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