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Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote:

Ace Boone wrote:

THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON

Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made?

Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed?

I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes.

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again.

No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC.

That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr.

Derrith had a great idea on reintroducing passive isk... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177263

We already can flood the pubs with full proto. Just this weekend, Ive made 80 mil off of PC's, and have 75 mil in wallet right now, after restocking all my proto fits up to 1000 each.

That's what I'm getting at. Get rid of the passive isk and nerf the isk in general in PC. That would be better than having to design a convuluted matchmaking system.

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Ace Boone 324	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:10:00 - [1] - Quote THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. Only loyal to the republic.
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 604	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:13:00 - [2] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC. That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr. Boycott Black Thursday!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2724	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:14:00 - [3] - Quote Maybe a corp warfare thing? That'd be so cool, to be able to actually have a war with organized rules and everything. And, we should be able to set our home quarters to a district "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2724	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:15:00 - [4] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC. That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr. Derrith had a great idea on reintroducing passive isk...link incoming "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Ace Boone 324	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:17:00 - [5] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC. That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr. Derrith had a great idea on reintroducing passive isk...link incoming Gimme dat shiii We should play together soon btw, slice n dice some scrubs for the republic. Only loyal to the republic.
Maken Tosch Dust University Ivy League 10058	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:17:00 - [6] - Quote I don't think passive ISK from PC districts will have much of an impact this time since ISK will be much easier to come by in 1.9 for pub matches and FW. Not to mention being able to sell AUR items for ISK. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 352	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:29:00 - [7] - Quote I'm flipping out right now. There will blood, borken chairs, and my laptop will DIE I"M GOING CRAZY!! JK JK not going that extreme. They better include Dom, Skirmish, and other modes in 2.0/ One more thing. The DRONES aka PVE!!! Do it for the community and in the end you'll see a huge increase in Vets and new players coming back. PVE must be in 3 place since the community requests it. 1 was BPO Check 2 was Market player thing Check 3 We need PVE (Need) 4 Racial Parity HAV, LAV, MCC, Dropship, RDV ect... MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 738	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:33:00 - [8] - Quote Maybe, just maybe, they will reintroduce corp battles, but with all the flaws ironed out. Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?
Ace Boone 324	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:40:00 - [9] - Quote JIMvc2 wrote: I'm flipping out right now. There will blood, borken chairs, and my laptop will DIE I"M GOING CRAZY!! JK JK not going that extreme. They better include Dom, Skirmish, and other modes in 2.0/ One more thing. The DRONES aka PVE!!! Do it for the community and in the end you'll see a huge increase in Vets and new players coming back. PVE must be in 3 place since the community requests it. 1 was BPO Check 2 was Market player thing Check 3 We need PVE (Need) 4 Racial Parity HAV, LAV, MCC, Dropship, RDV ect... Hey bro, there was thing called fanfest..You should check out the last announcement. Only loyal to the republic.
Grimmiers 691	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:42:00 - [10] - Quote Is pc 2.0 going to be what was detailed during eve vegas 2013?

Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 605	Posted - 2014.11.03 04:50:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC. That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr. Derrith had a great idea on reintroducing passive isk... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177263 We already can flood the pubs with full proto. Just this weekend, Ive made 80 mil off of PC's, and have 75 mil in wallet right now, after restocking all my proto fits up to 1000 each. That's what I'm getting at. Get rid of the passive isk and nerf the isk in general in PC. That would be better than having to design a convuluted matchmaking system. Boycott Black Thursday!
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 17569	Posted - 2014.11.03 05:07:00 - [12] - Quote Will? No I wouldn't say there will be one; its something the CPM is interested in seeing (and technically its 3.0) Also NO to passive isk. Dont bother bringing it up. As for all other things we're interested from things ranging from entering PC, playing each other in PC, fighting in PC and what you're fighting for. CPM 1 Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior \\= Prototype Forge Gun=// Unlocked
medomai grey WarRavens Capital Punishment. 1077	Posted - 2014.11.03 05:15:00 - [13] - Quote Unless CCP announces it themselves, I would not expect anything. CPM are not CCP's spokes men/women. They're supposed to be our spokes men/women... How to balance cloaks.
JIMvc2 The Wanga Empire Strikes Back 352	Posted - 2014.11.03 05:18:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Will? No I wouldn't say there will be one; its something the CPM is interested in seeing (and technically its 3.0) Also NO to passive isk. Dont bother bringing it up. As for all other things we're interested from things ranging from entering PC, playing each other in PC, fighting in PC and what you're fighting for. Oh and don't forget the other game modes. MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14077	Posted - 2014.11.03 05:24:00 - [15] - Quote Bullshit even I'm aware that the CPM has some moderate level of intelligence, charisma, and dashing good looks. I don't believe they pull another fast one on me championing the pushing out PC bullshit when half the content players are waiting for isn't in the game. GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2314	Posted - 2014.11.03 05:26:00 - [16] - Quote Is the Gallente Research Facility the one with the 3 or 4 rings? Yeah, that needs to be taken out of PC. That needed to happen a long time ago. 99% of the PC battles I was in, was on that large socket, whether it was 2 or 3 objectives in the compound. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Terry Webber Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 471	Posted - 2014.11.03 06:16:00 - [17] - Quote I didn't believe you for a second, Ace. If one of the CPM members did tell you this, you shouldn't be writing it for all of the DUST community to read about. I'd rather hear it from the CPM or CCP themselves.
TRULY ELITE WarRavens Capital Punishment. 116	Posted - 2014.11.03 06:31:00 - [18] - Quote I hope that all the districts get reset or something and there are actually disadvantages to 'blue donut-ing'
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club 5758	Posted - 2014.11.03 06:34:00 - [19] - Quote WTF, you stupid or something. When was passive ISK a good idea, nothing good has come from it a giant blue donut has been formed just to farm it. The new system is not good but passive ISK was worse. Why not make a new system instead of picking between the current bad system and the even worse passive isk system. EVE 21 Day Trial Selling Templar BPO's
deezy dabest IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP 1069	Posted - 2014.11.03 06:53:00 - [20] - Quote I think for the time being PC needs to be replaced by corp battles. Everything that is needed to make PC function just does not exist in the game. I feel like the factor holding it back the most is the fact that a NPC is buying and selling clones. Clone packs should be sold by corps who have districts and are producing clones meaning they get passive isk but only if people are buying clones to attack people. Biomassed clones should be able to be fed to production facilities to temporarily speed up clone production. This is all in the far off and imaginary future. For the short term: Each district should have a set "base" reinforcement window which can not be changed once set that starts at 23 hours after each reinforcement period. For every district owned by that corporation the reinforcement time is reduced by X% for all districts meaning if a corp want multiple districts they eventually have become opened up to people in all time zones. Reduce clone biomass payouts. Reduce clone pack price. Increase clone count. The barrier to entry is still just too high for any corporation that is not given a district. Hoping to catch a district at a time that it is vulnerable to 150 clone attack and then having everyone ready is just bad mechanics IMO. The overall goal is to make it so that if you want to make a big profit off of PC then you need to hold multiple districts which significantly increases your risk of being attacked at a less than optimal time for you and increases the rate you have battles.

Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1956	Posted - 2014.11.03 07:48:00 - [21] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON I think you heard a very different discussion than I did. All I heard was that the CPM was discussing it, not that it was "coming soon".
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2014.11.03 10:52:00 - [22] - Quote All you people wanting corp battles back need to GTFO! There was nothing more annoying than putting up a contract and nobody take it. At least the way it is now they have to fight you.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 869	Posted - 2014.11.03 10:53:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Also NO to passive isk. Dont bother bringing it up. You say no.... But.... You also said no about respecs (something about SQL scripts being too tricky and time consuming (and manual -lol)) So yeah, I wouldn't trust a single word IWS writes.
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4362	Posted - 2014.11.03 10:56:00 - [24] - Quote Oh yeah because PC should totally be fixed for the tryhard minority before faction warfare is overhauled to provide benefits to corps and individuals. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 963	Posted - 2014.11.03 11:00:00 - [25] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Oh yeah because PC should totally be fixed for the tryhard minority before faction warfare is overhauled to provide benefits to corps and individuals. PC is the only thing that keeps me playing this game and I know I'm not the only one. It has needed a fix since the first day it deployed. It's due time something happens. You should get in some PC matches, you might be surprised how fun it can be.
Zombie Supreme Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 172	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:02:00 - [26] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. What that CPM was saying was just what he was going to propose for PC 2.0, not that it was necessarily coming soon. Return Passive ISK, meh. I just think they need to double players payouts for wins and reduce the min clones killed to 50 (to make farming less lucrative) Maybe give the winning corp's wallet a reward based on actual clones killed. And integrating all the maps into PC would be cool.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4292	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:12:00 - [27] - Quote lol passive isk B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 967	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:28:00 - [28] - Quote Zombie Supreme wrote: And integrating all the maps into PC would be cool. Please don't. If Border Gulch and Fracture Road make their way into PC I may just finally quit this godforsaken game.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4292	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:36:00 - [29] - Quote Dust User wrote: Zombie Supreme wrote: And integrating all the maps into PC would be cool. Please don't. If Border Gulch and Fracture Road make their way into PC I may just finally quit this godforsaken game. Border Gulch and Fracture Road > GaLLAGGY Lab B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5151	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:40:00 - [30] - Quote I want Line Harvest in PC. I wish my avatar was Minmatar.

Kevall Longstride Dust University Ivy League 1952	Posted - 2014.11.03 19:07:00 - [31] - Quote Must've missed that memo... CPM 1 member CEO of DUST University Vist dustcpm.com
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2743	Posted - 2014.11.03 20:10:00 - [32] - Quote Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Operative 1125 Lokaas wrote: Ace Boone wrote: THERE WILL BE A PC 2.0 COMING SOON Does anyone have any ideas on how this will work and what changes will be made? Post-game reward changes? District management and infrastructure changes? New maps being implemented and possibly Gallente Research Facility being removed? I remember the CPMs asking about which maps we would like to see removed and which ones we would like to see added in. It will be interesting to see what changes. FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT'S RIGHT, BRING BACK PASSIVE ISK. Let the value of districts and battling in PC actually be worth something rather than just use them to solve the average players boredom. Let's make wars meaningful again. No, no passive isk. Then the protos just come down to pubs and stomp. Reward PC players with something specific to PC. Maybe suits et al that can only be used in PC. That game mode really needs to be its own thing, especially since players use it as a leet tool and deny access to anyone not hardcoring a k/dr. Derrith had a great idea on reintroducing passive isk... https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=177263 We already can flood the pubs with full proto. Just this weekend, Ive made 80 mil off of PC's, and have 75 mil in wallet right now, after restocking all my proto fits up to 1000 each. That's what I'm getting at. Get rid of the passive isk and nerf the isk in general in PC. That would be better than having to design a convuluted matchmaking system. You nerf PC isk and all well do is flood your pubs with full proto, because well just squad up and go isk positive in it anyways. Some will run out of isk eventually, but nobody will do PC where they die 7 times in full proto for anything less than double their investment. You give us a reason to run PC and well run PC. Simple as that. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Ace Boone 327	Posted - 2014.11.03 20:19:00 - [33] - Quote Terry Webber wrote: I didn't believe you for a second, Ace. If one of the CPM members did tell you this, you shouldn't be writing it for all of the DUST community to read about. I'd rather hear it from the CPM or CCP themselves. I don't have to lie. I won't give you a name, but there were several other reliable people around when one of the CPMs told me. Ask MMG, D Pizzle, Coldblooded etc. He told all of us by accident, and didn't mention anymore details on the matter, outside of mentioning a possible PC 2.0 Only loyal to the republic.
Dust User KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 969	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:19:00 - [34] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Dust User wrote: Zombie Supreme wrote: And integrating all the maps into PC would be cool. Please don't. If Border Gulch and Fracture Road make their way into PC I may just finally quit this godforsaken game. Border Gulch and Fracture Road > GaLLAGGY Lab Anything is better than Lag City but there's only 13 Labs in all of Molden Heath so it's really a non-factor.
Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1081	Posted - 2014.11.03 23:32:00 - [35] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Unless CCP announces it themselves, I would not expect anything. CPM are not CCP's spokes men/women. They're supposed to be our spokes men/women... nah theyre lapdogs with a non disclosure agreement. this is the kinda leak we should have had prefanfest. op is making it up or someone in the cpm is liable to getting sued right now. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
Hakyou Brutor Capital Acquisitions LLC 1492	Posted - 2014.11.04 00:22:00 - [36] - Quote Passive ISK?
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4295	Posted - 2014.11.04 15:31:00 - [37] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Passive ISK? God no. Someone gonna get some of that old school Zatara PC comms if that is considered. B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA They call me ~Princess Zatata~ Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought


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