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DarthPlagueis TheWise 237	Posted - 2014.11.02 13:30:00 - [1] - Quote I haven't had much chance to try out the new AR variants this month. I've ran a few matches with the breach and it seems okay now. However I'm trying to build a serious Scout fit for future PC matches and somehow I doubt the changes put it on the level of other rifles. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
Grease Spillett Bloodline Rebellion Capital Punishment. 503	Posted - 2014.11.02 13:32:00 - [2] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: I haven't had much chance to try out the new AR variants this month. I've ran a few matches with the breach and it seems okay now. However I'm trying to build a serious Scout fit for future PC matches and somehow I doubt the changes put it on the level of other rifles. Yeah clip size for the tac ar is the only down side right now. I put on a breach and yes it feels good. I am still staying away from assault variant it gets me killed because it is meant for gun battles up close. There's other weapons that do better. Next time you see me, bring more friends. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBM5hM5LdDw
Zindorak G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1213	Posted - 2014.11.02 13:35:00 - [3] - Quote Breach and Burst are the best Pokemon master and Tekken Lord Gk0 Scout yay :)
DarthPlagueis TheWise 237	Posted - 2014.11.02 13:36:00 - [4] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: Yeah clip size for the tac ar is the only down side right now. I put on a breach and yes it feels good. I am still staying away from assault variant it gets me killed because it is meant for gun battles up close. There's other weapons that do better. i need to find a post with some numbers because i'm not convinced. and it looks to me like the burst AR is better than the regular one now. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 5766	Posted - 2014.11.02 14:44:00 - [5] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: Grease Spillett wrote: Yeah clip size for the tac ar is the only down side right now. I put on a breach and yes it feels good. I am still staying away from assault variant it gets me killed because it is meant for gun battles up close. There's other weapons that do better. i need to find a post with some numbers because i'm not convinced. and it looks to me like the burst AR is better than the regular one now. edit: nevermind i forgot that i already read Rattati's chart a month ago. So you guys REALLY think they can hold their own in PC now? Theoretically they should do about as well as the CR now, especially against Minmatar and Caldari suits. Just play around in pub matches and see how you do. It's the best way to know if it's for you. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Cavani1EE7 Murphys-Law General Tso's Alliance 385	Posted - 2014.11.02 14:56:00 - [6] - Quote Wells I use the Burst version on a cal scout and often drop 20+ kills in PC Take a bow
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 1535	Posted - 2014.11.02 15:01:00 - [7] - Quote DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: I haven't had much chance to try out the new AR variants this month. I've ran a few matches with the breach and it seems okay now. However I'm trying to build a serious Scout fit for future PC matches and somehow I doubt the changes put it on the level of other rifles. somewhat. breach+damage mod is like what rail rifle used to be except no sight and shorter range [[LogiBro ADV/PRO]] [[Level 1 Forum Warrior]] [[Level 2 Forum Pariah]]
DarthPlagueis TheWise 240	Posted - 2014.11.02 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Just play around in pub matches and see how you do. It's the best way to know if it's for you. Bro, I've been using the AR for over a year now. I'm talking about it being viable in the metagame because I haven't done PC in a couple months. Though I will admit the variants were drastically UP for so long I never touched them more than once or twice until now. The numbers are in its favor, that's for sure. Especially with that 10% nerf to projectile damage VS shields. Bolas deploys tank in strategic location
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1955	Posted - 2014.11.02 16:52:00 - [9] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: I haven't had much chance to try out the new AR variants this month. I've ran a few matches with the breach and it seems okay now. However I'm trying to build a serious Scout fit for future PC matches and somehow I doubt the changes put it on the level of other rifles. somewhat. breach+damage mod is like what rail rifle used to be except no sight and shorter range Agreed, except the breach kicks less than the RR did when it was introduced in both ADS and hipfire, by my estimation. There is really no comparison now, and the BrAR dominates it within its range, IMO.
Nirwanda Vaughns 879	Posted - 2014.11.02 17:46:00 - [10] - Quote Grease Spillett wrote: DarthPlagueis TheWise wrote: I haven't had much chance to try out the new AR variants this month. I've ran a few matches with the breach and it seems okay now. However I'm trying to build a serious Scout fit for future PC matches and somehow I doubt the changes put it on the level of other rifles. Yeah clip size for the tac ar is the only down side right now. I put on a breach and yes it feels good. I am still staying away from assault variant it gets me killed because it is meant for gun battles up close. There's other weapons that do better. but TACs and rapid fire is back in a pretty big way again though especially with the hip fire bonus of the gallente assault. its mainly close to mid range but i know several guys have got their old controllers out again Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience proud C-II bpo owner

Auris Lionesse Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 1070	Posted - 2014.11.02 18:41:00 - [11] - Quote burst with 2 damage mods out dps's a combat rifle according to protofits iirc. Don't vote for iron wolf saber. Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 243	Posted - 2014.11.02 18:45:00 - [12] - Quote Breach AR is better than regular AR, even at close range... Don't say it isn't! it's the only thing that's been killing me lately! That moment when you mow down a proto Caldari assault suit with a militia laser rifle. Words can't describe it.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 18648	Posted - 2014.11.02 19:53:00 - [13] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: burst with 2 damage mods out dps's a combat rifle according to protofits iirc. This part tends to be rather important. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
hfderrtgvcd 1057	Posted - 2014.11.02 19:55:00 - [14] - Quote the breach ar is the best weapon in the game. You can't fight in here! This is the war room.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2721	Posted - 2014.11.02 19:58:00 - [15] - Quote Breach AR is better than any other rifle right now "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2721	Posted - 2014.11.02 19:59:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: burst with 2 damage mods out dps's a combat rifle according to protofits iirc. This part tends to be rather important. Burst regularly out DPSes the CR. And has a more manageable damage profile. "Minja" and "Masochist" are synonyms. FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ I piss Remote Explosives and shit Shotgun shells.
Kalante Schiffer YOU GOT OWNED BY A CHRONIC FAPPER 812	Posted - 2014.11.02 20:24:00 - [17] - Quote no. 70m sp vet. Ancient æ Gÿ¦xiles . What can not be understand. GûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæ
Spectral Clone Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 3000	Posted - 2014.11.02 20:25:00 - [18] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: no. Indeed. EVE: Legion, also known as: Schroedinger's Game, EVE: Limbo, or just "Not-a-game-yet".
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property 13400	Posted - 2014.11.02 20:32:00 - [19] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: burst with 2 damage mods out dps's a combat rifle according to protofits iirc. This part tends to be rather important. Burst regularly out DPSes the CR. And has a more manageable damage profile. Boundless Combat Rifle: 594 DPS Allotek Burst Plasma Rifle: 606.67 DPS In exchange for an extra 12.67 DPS, the Combat Rifle has: Better Profile (Armor is much more popular the Shields) Increased RoF Increased Range Increased Hip-Fire Accuracy Decreased Dispersion The Burst PR is not a bad weapon, but the Combat Rifle is still the best burst weapon by far. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND


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