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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:00:00 -
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^this would be nice.
we can switch after emptying our clips. why not after overheating as well?
Clone117:MLT specialist.
Translation:dont mess with me or you lose your kdr.(and isk)
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:24:00 -
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Naaa let's not
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
13380
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:26:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155054
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MrBlobz
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:26:00 -
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Kinda defeats the point of the overheat.
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:29:00 -
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If you happen to need more of a reason than the above (which is a pretty good reason, IMO), then here's one:
Allowing weapon swap after overheat completely removes the risk/reward of overheating weapons, and negates the skill involved with heat management.
Quite frankly, I'd even go so far as to say that allowing this would actually reward overheating, when the current mechanics, both as-designed and as-intended, are supposed to punish overheating.
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.02 03:51:00 -
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Do you know how much Heavy QQ there would be , oh .. I see the tears flowing now as we speak .
Everyone would just run those HMG's until they lock and automatically switch to their sidearm , no more cranking to make it cool down ... people would have a fit .
Thank you Rattati , the DEV crew and the CPM for getting the job of 1.9 done .
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.11.02 04:03:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:^this would be nice.
we can switch after emptying our clips. why not after overheating as well?
Because then over heat is not a punishment for lack of precision.
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Kensai Dragon
Dust University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.11.02 04:41:00 -
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Because the weapon is SO HOT that it would melt your armor if holstered during the seize... |
Joel II X
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.02 08:07:00 -
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No, BUT you can switch BEFORE you overheat and it'll cool down while you're using your sidearm. |
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.11.02 11:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155054
its not logibro or Rattattattattattattattattattattatti then its not valid as it seems only those 2 are the ones keeping dust alive and improving it in leaps and bounds
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X7 lion
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
423
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Posted - 2014.11.02 11:49:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:^this would be nice.
we can switch after emptying our clips. why not after overheating as well?
hisssssss.......
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.11.03 03:49:00 -
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MrBlobz wrote:Kinda defeats the point of the overheat.
and this point would be?
Clone117:MLT specialist.
Translation:dont mess with me or you lose your kdr.(and isk)
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Operative 1125 Lokaas
True Companion Planetary Requisitions
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Posted - 2014.11.03 04:16:00 -
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Kensai Dragon wrote:Because the weapon is SO HOT that it would melt your armor if holstered during the seize...
Holstered? A rifle? An HMG? And while wearing a suit that stops bullets?
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Victor Moody Stahl
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.11.03 04:19:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:MrBlobz wrote:Kinda defeats the point of the overheat. and this point would be?
That there is, in fact, a penalty for wildly spraying weapons fire like a complete idiot?
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.11.03 21:53:00 -
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Victor Moody Stahl wrote:CLONE117 wrote:MrBlobz wrote:Kinda defeats the point of the overheat. and this point would be? That there is, in fact, a penalty for wildly spraying weapons fire like a complete idiot?
that really isnt a point though. and that isnt a penalty its just an annoyance. the real penalty for spraying weapons is that you miss your target 90% of the time . thats the penalty for spray and pray.
so i say again. what would be the point of overheat on the hmg?
Clone117:MLT specialist.
Translation:dont mess with me or you lose your kdr.(and isk)
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CommanderBolt
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2279
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:09:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:Victor Moody Stahl wrote:CLONE117 wrote:MrBlobz wrote:Kinda defeats the point of the overheat. and this point would be? That there is, in fact, a penalty for wildly spraying weapons fire like a complete idiot? that really isnt a point though. and that isnt a penalty its just an annoyance. the real penalty for spraying weapons is that you miss your target 90% of the time . thats the penalty for spray and pray. so i say again. what would be the point of overheat on the hmg?
Overheat applies to more weapons than just the HMG but it is quite obviously a balancing mechanic. Otherwise what would stop heavies chewing through their entire barrel of bullets walking along with pre wound up accurate fire? They could slaughter an entire army if given the chance.
Hell even with overheat good heavies can slaughter entire squads. Do you not think that the overheat mechanic is a good thing? lol
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:24:00 -
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ive been in many situations where ive fired my hmg into a single doorway packed full of enemy ppl. and id be the one to get chewed up and thrown out.
the only thing over heat does is annoy the hell out of you at the worst possible moment.
i cant even melee during that extremely long seize time.
i think the clip size tagged along with reload is a big enough of a disadvantage.
i dont think its good with the hmg. with weapons like the scrambler. i can see the need for that mechanic. but with the hmg. not really.
and all im simply asking is to be able to switch to a side arm. when that over heat does happen. the hmg is the gun that is said to clear hall ways and everything not my smg.
but with my use of the adv. the 425 clip size isnt big enough to kill entire teams in one go. most of the time it can take up to over half the clip to kill at the 15-20m engagement range for the hmg. the only time its killed fast is at shotgun range. and that doesnt happen to often from my experience.
Clone117:MLT specialist.
Translation:dont mess with me or you lose your kdr.(and isk)
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Sinboto Simmons
Bloodline Rebellion
Capital Punishment.
6396
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:29:00 -
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If you take a look at all the gear subject to things like overheat, low ammo, longer reload, or charge timers you'll find they tend to be more powerful 'special' weapons.
Turrets, Mass driver, Scrambler rifle, Charge snipper, Nova knives, HMG, Remote explosives, Forge gun, ect ect ect.
Full auto Forge gun: bad.
Assault MD with Freedom damage: bad.
Scrambler rifle with no overheat: bad.
Tanks with cloak: bad.
Rail rifle with no kick/charge: bad.
Some of the stuff I listed have these boundaries for a reason, others have been outright REMOVED, I'm the last person to say the balance is perfect: but it could sure as hell be worse.
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STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Auris Lionesse
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
1078
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Posted - 2014.11.03 22:32:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:^this would be nice.
we can switch after emptying our clips. why not after overheating as well?
overheating is a penalty for not using your weapon properly.
practice and get better and you wont overheat.
Don't vote for iron wolf saber.
Vote for someone who will help the community i.e. anyone else.
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