DUST Search - What will it take to bring parity in DUST?

True Adamance wrote:

I believe that in a break down of content features per race..... the disparities are evident.

Items of Content Per Race

Caldari - 21
Gallente - 18
Minmatar - 13
Amarr - 8

Note that at least 5 of each races content features are dropsuits...... meaning that

Items of Content Per Race that are not dropsuits

Caldari - 16
Gallente - 13
Minmatar - 8
Amarr - 3

Of those items Amarr content includes one Side Arm (Scrambler Pistol) and two Standard Rifles (Laser and Scrambler Rifles)

This means that Amarr players lack

A Grenade
A Heavy Weapon
An AV Weapon
An Automatic Side Arm
LAV
HAV
DS
ADS
Amarrian Laser Large and Small Turrets

Even with all 8 of those things we would still be one of the two least represented Racial Groups in the game.

This fan of EVE and Dust Franchises fervently hopes that this game stops being EVE: Caldari-Gallente War Simulator 2014 and sooner rather than later attempts to fairly and evenly represent all the races of New Eden and provide its players with the options they've long been craving.

PS: I haven't forgotten about the other missing racial Content especially for the Minmatar whose development I am also interested in seeing.

Minmatar LAV
Minmatar HAV
Minmatar Dropships
Minmatar Assault Dropships
Minmatar Precision Rifle
Minmatar Artillery Large and Small Turrets

Gallente Automatic Side Arm

Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)

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Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 161	Posted - 2014.10.31 19:02:00 - [1] - Quote It has been suggested (by myself and a few others in the community) that if we were to get another patch post 1.9 (i'm calling it 1.10 oooer) that Racial Parity should be one of its aims... But what would this require. At first i though.... Amar and Minny needs HAV,LAV, Dropship and MCC. Gallente and Amar need Heavy Weapons. Remaining turrets of all sizes. I know i'm speaking very generally but this seemed like quite a reasonable list... But then i saw a thread about amar A/V weapons.. which i had never considered as i mostly don't play with amar (i know its hard to believe looking at the avatar). So Add to the list Amarian A/V I thought about sidearms... Some races have several guns and hybrids of others as well while others only have the 1 gun. Minny have flaylock and SMG, Ive always thought the Nova Knifes, Bolt PIstol and Magsec SMG were caldari (why the caldari would have an SMG I don't know) Yet from memory the Gallente and amar only have 1 sidearm each. Can anyone else think of anywhere else where items are missing? (i'm not talking about sockets or Maps or gamemodes) I am Hoping this thread can become ideas for whats missing - im hoping CCP already know whats missing. And you never know i'm hoping Rattati might even appear and say he is already on the case ALL HAIL RATTATI, Saviour of DUST514. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Gustcloak Ravager Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2014.11.01 07:04:00 - [2] - Quote Racial parity definately needs a look over.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 14038	Posted - 2014.11.01 07:24:00 - [3] - Quote I believe that in a break down of content features per race..... the disparities are evident. Items of Content Per Race Caldari - 21 Gallente - 18 Minmatar - 13 Amarr - 8 Note that at least 5 of each races content features are dropsuits...... meaning that Items of Content Per Race that are not dropsuits Caldari - 16 Gallente - 13 Minmatar - 8 Amarr - 3 Of those items Amarr content includes one Side Arm (Scrambler Pistol) and two Standard Rifles (Laser and Scrambler Rifles) This means that Amarr players lack A Grenade A Heavy Weapon An AV Weapon An Automatic Side Arm LAV HAV DS ADS Amarrian Laser Large and Small Turrets Even with all 8 of those things we would still be one of the two least represented Racial Groups in the game. This fan of EVE and Dust Franchises fervently hopes that this game stops being EVE: Caldari-Gallente War Simulator 2014 and sooner rather than later attempts to fairly and evenly represent all the races of New Eden and provide its players with the options they've long been craving. PS: I haven't forgotten about the other missing racial Content especially for the Minmatar whose development I am also interested in seeing. Minmatar LAV Minmatar HAV Minmatar Dropships Minmatar Assault Dropships Minmatar Precision Rifle Minmatar Artillery Large and Small Turrets Gallente Automatic Side Arm GÇ£How does this all work then?GÇ¥ GÇ£Like so Choirboy.GÇ¥ Mila to Kador, Sub Zero Club, Shoashu Sasaanko
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 164	Posted - 2014.11.01 07:38:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I believe that in a break down of content features per race..... the disparities are evident. Items of Content Per Race Caldari - 21 Gallente - 18 Minmatar - 13 Amarr - 8 Note that at least 5 of each races content features are dropsuits...... meaning that Items of Content Per Race that are not dropsuits Caldari - 16 Gallente - 13 Minmatar - 8 Amarr - 3 Of those items Amarr content includes one Side Arm (Scrambler Pistol) and two Standard Rifles (Laser and Scrambler Rifles) This means that Amarr players lack A Grenade A Heavy Weapon An AV Weapon An Automatic Side Arm LAV HAV DS ADS Amarrian Laser Large and Small Turrets Even with all 8 of those things we would still be one of the two least represented Racial Groups in the game. This fan of EVE and Dust Franchises fervently hopes that this game stops being EVE: Caldari-Gallente War Simulator 2014 and sooner rather than later attempts to fairly and evenly represent all the races of New Eden and provide its players with the options they've long been craving. PS: I haven't forgotten about the other missing racial Content especially for the Minmatar whose development I am also interested in seeing. Minmatar LAV Minmatar HAV Minmatar Dropships Minmatar Assault Dropships Minmatar Precision Rifle Minmatar Artillery Large and Small Turrets Gallente Automatic Side Arm I have to say - This is a great breakdown, nice one Adamance. Have another Like (although you seem to have enough already ) Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4289	Posted - 2014.11.01 07:45:00 - [5] - Quote Gallente and minmatar both lack a precision weapon. You mentioned the precision rifle but the gallente lack anything resembling that, the laser rifle, or the sniper rifle. Before you quote me I consider the LR both precision and suppression. Overlap in roles is a thing. Minmatar lack an AV option same as amarr. RE don't count as AV. They're a trap weapon. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 164	Posted - 2014.11.01 08:11:00 - [6] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Gallente and minmatar both lack a precision weapon. You mentioned the precision rifle but the gallente lack anything resembling that, the laser rifle, or the sniper rifle. Before you quote me I consider the LR both precision and suppression. Overlap in roles is a thing. Minmatar lack an AV option same as amarr. RE don't count as AV. They're a trap weapon. Personally while I think some things are lacking I personally don't think every race should have every weapon type. For example the Gallente traditionally favor short range brawling. The shotgun would be their racial preference rather than a sniper rifle. Not to say a Gallente suit couldn't be fitted with a sniper rifle but i'm not sure they should have their own variant. Just as i don't think other races should get a shotgun - although I have seen several suggestions that this should be the case. Not intending this as a shootdown by the way :) I agree about RE's and the suggestion that the LR is supression/precision. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 4291	Posted - 2014.11.01 09:12:00 - [7] - Quote Precision doesn't always mean long range. Nor does it mean sniper style. Example: the TAC AR is a precision weapon, one that fits the role of the "Designated marksman" in a squad or fire team. Forge Guns are precision AV weapons. There is a lot of room for overlap. For example: the Amarr laser rifle is a suppression and precision weapon. Precision weapons represent focused application of force. Range is secondary to the role. EVE Online is what you get when engineers attempt to create "fun" without consulting someone who comprehends the word.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 778	Posted - 2014.11.01 09:21:00 - [8] - Quote A full breakdown of how f*cked the racial parity is. Here. Swag-suit4lyfe!
sir RAVEN WING Mors Effera 55	Posted - 2014.11.01 09:27:00 - [9] - Quote What about some Amarr NK? (the Amarr version would hopefully be different) Or and other race's NK? Creative with guns
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2014.11.01 09:30:00 - [10] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: A full breakdown of how f*cked the racial parity is. Here. This is also a good breakdown of what is needed Needs some blue-tags I think. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)

Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2014.11.01 09:32:00 - [11] - Quote Breakin Stuff wrote: Precision doesn't always mean long range. Nor does it mean sniper style. Example: the TAC AR is a precision weapon, one that fits the role of the "Designated marksman" in a squad or fire team. Forge Guns are precision AV weapons. There is a lot of room for overlap. For example: the Amarr laser rifle is a suppression and precision weapon. Precision weapons represent focused application of force. Range is secondary to the role. Ahh ok I missunderstood and though you where saying every race should get every gun which would be silly imo. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)
sir RAVEN WING Mors Effera 56	Posted - 2014.11.01 10:11:00 - [12] - Quote (someone like this for me typing this at 5:30am, thank you) Amarr Pistol: Scrambler Pistol Prime: Scrambler Rifle Knife: None Special: Laser Rifle Grenade: none Vehicle: none Other:Drop Uplink (I think) Caldari master race (:p) Pistol: Bolt Pistol Prime: Rail Rifle Knife: Nova Knife Special: Sniper Rifle, Swarm launcher, Forge Gun, Magsec Grenade: AV Grenade Vehicles: Bolas, other vehicles which I'm too tired to count Other: Cloak, Nanite Injector, Nanohives Gallente wannabe Pistol: Ion Pistol Prime: Assault Rifle Knife: none Special: Shotgun, Plasma Cannon Grenade: Flux Grenade Vehicles: Yes... (Need sleep) Other: Active Scanner Minmatar peasant Pistol: Flaylock Pistol Prime: Combat Rifle Special: HMG, Mass Driver, SMG Knife: none Vehicle: none Other: Repair Tool Grenade (almost fell asleep typing this): Remote Explosive, Locus Grenade. I'm going to sign off, cya Creative with guns
VikingKong iBUN T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 151	Posted - 2014.11.01 13:27:00 - [13] - Quote We need our Gal and Amarr SMGs naoow.
sir RAVEN WING Huogikku Corporation Heiian Conglomerate 78	Posted - 2014.11.02 11:26:00 - [14] - Quote Bump Creative with guns
Lady MDK Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2014.11.03 06:44:00 - [15] - Quote VikingKong iBUN wrote: We need our Gal and Amarr SMGs naoow. Machine gun type weapons are only used by minmatar in eve lore. Why do we all need them in dust? Oh and.... Bump. Anyone getting annoyed by reading of the above post should consider the following. I don't care so neither should you :)


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